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Old 6th August 2001, 03:06 PM
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how do you cure ringworm.
Sprays (anti-fungal)have not worked, and it is spreading.
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Old 6th August 2001, 05:56 PM
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There are several remedies to choose from depending upon the symptoms, where it is located etc. If you can post more info, it would be helpful. The last ten cases that have come through our clinic responded well to baccilinum 200x several times a day for three days. We used other remedies as well.
Internally, to change the terrain of the person, we also gave an herb combo and a product called Super Aloe VEra Juice, any 10,000 MPS aloe with an antifungal should be helpful.
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Please describe the place on the body.
Also the appearance of it.
Also the feeling of it.
it is easily treated homeopathicaly with more information about it & the person.
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dear yaboyu,
we can cure ringworm by internal treatment alone.As homoeopathy is treating the patient the remedy differ according to the individual.combination remedies is not advisable nor the externals also.
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Dear Dr. Pannakkal,

I bet on my studies that Ringworm has a Tubercular Miasm behind it and one should not rule remedies based on this miasm.

Whoever proved "Ringworm" knew what is behind it, as their forefathers has already established the link. This proving was just to get attention of Homoeopathic community which knew less about it. To cut the story short, let us go back to the basics and believe in what the Masters has said and follow that.

If any body is in doubt, Please read all the books on Miasms.

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Old 9th August 2001, 01:38 AM
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There is a difference between acute and chronic prescribing. So many people who are advanced in Homeopathy still do not understand the difference between them or are stuck in dogmas. Today, at work, I had the office manager pull all the ringworm (cured) cases off of the Homeo-Help Line, a call in service from all over the US and several in other countries. Almost all of them recovered from three basic remedies, Sepia, Tell. and Baccilinum. Regardless of the patients background, etc, when someone is in an acute situation, give them a remedy that will help, if external herbs (that are not suppressive) or a pH balancer such as aloe juice helps, as Physicians, we owe it to people to tell them.
Later, in full case analysis, you can deal with miasms, and individuality. I can tell you afetr studying under four schools of thought and practice that each school has strengths and weaknesses. Try the remedies suggested and go to the next if it doesn't work. Gentle, rapid, and permanent! They work.
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Old 10th August 2001, 03:48 AM
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Dear ShashiRoy,
About the miasm behind it I agree.But our prescription is acording to the case alone.Blindly prescrbing bacillinum or tub. I didn't agree.
Dear cindee,
I have cured many cases with internal medication alone.At present there are 2 cases.One is almost cured with Ars alb1m and the with hep sulph 10m.Other remedies like lyco,thuja are also cured many cases.
Many cases we can reach medicine with the help of appearance or location .if it is disappeared the clue to drug is also missed.
if we can cure with internal medicine why we bother about thearies like ph balancing ,cleaning etc.
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Dear Mr. P.
I agree with you in the sense, that taking a full case in a chronic situation is ideal. Please understand that acute prescribing based on differentials, and using supportives is not against any law. If we all blindly gave 10M's we'd have many aggrivations on our hands and refusing to help a person without a full case analysis seems unfair when you have used a remedy hundreds of times and had results. You can use remedies acutely for situations like this. Internal remedies do work over time in skin disorders, but if you can add an herb to help the person heal faster or another therapy does not suppress the condition, many great homeopaths used tinctures in drop doses and others. To say only one way works is unfair to Homeopathy, unfair to the Master Hahnemann, who used several methods over time, and unfair to the patient who is eagerly waiting for help.
The first time I chose Baccilinum in a 200x for a ringworm condition (TB Miasm fits), it was by the advice of a Master Homeopath, also lived in India, when a woman brought in a cat with ringworm to him at a seminar, and showed her spots to him, in seconds, he gave the remedy without notes or books, smiled and said, stick to what works...This taught me a great lesson. I don't do it often, but for acute disorders, after 25 years of practice, learning the top couple remedies to give when you don't have a full case and in lower doses, has been a great blessing.....
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Old 12th August 2001, 10:04 AM
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Dear Cindee,

I agree with you on you on one point that different doctors have different methods and intention of all is to cure.

Disagree with you on local application along with internal medication in case of ringworm .What hahnemann's openion about local application along with internal medication in case of local maladies(201) is clearly written in aph-197."the chief symptom(here ring worm)will usually annihilated sooner than the internal disease,and we shall now be decieved by the semblance of perfect cure..."
aphorisms like 197,198,199 etc dealing it with details.

Another point is that this is not a acute case and as you mentioned it is chronic and tubercular miasm behind it.So to get a perfect cure correct homoeopathic internal medication is a must.By external application the disease will go to more important organ.

Another thing is for every miasmatic disease it is not necessorry that the same nosode is a must, as bacillinum or tuberculinum for ringworm or syphilinum for syphilis etc.In homoeopathy sighs and symptoms are the only rule not the disease name.
By the disappearance of local symptoms our main clue to the internal nature is sometimes lost.We can differentiate circinate eruption of Ars,Hep,Hippoz,Bacil,Graph ,Sul,Lyc,Ant crud etc by mere appearance or location.Each drug has its appearace ,symptoms and locality.Probably that is why the Indian doctor as you mentioned spotted the remedy at a glance and not by the name of disease.

Especially in miasmatic disease the internal medication is the safe method because the underlying thing is the miasm and we are seing only the tip of the iceburg.

Years before I had seen one case where the infant only below one week brought to my clinic wth body full of large ring like eruption.By questioning mother she told at her last months of pregnancy she had the same eruptions and is cured speedily by antifungal cream.So it is suppressed and and went inside and effected foetus.If foetus is not there surely it will affect internal organs.
Iam not a classical homoeopath and have no time for detailed case taking.But from the striking or present symptoms itself we can reach the remedy in many cases.if not possible I will ask the questions by the subseqent visits.I never used combination and ointment in chronic skin complaints and in most case the appearance itself tell the remedy.
About potencies any potency will work whether it is low or high if the medicine is correct .And some people need high potency and some other need only moderate wit repetition.

this is my openion after long practice and seen more than five hundred thousands of patients.In my earlier practise I am on the habit of using more than one or two remedies in chronic cases also.But later I understand it is no use and only palliative or acute case it is affective.

Above said is only my openion and method.


Yabuyu is calling you in many new threads and you are not seems to be replying.Hope you reply him soon.

with regards

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Cindee,

I understand what you are saying about acute and chronic prescribing...but what makes you think Ringworm is an acute illness?

The case demands full assessment, not routine prescribing; and the miasm must definitely be taken under consideration.

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