Kali mur, is only used in 6x who have no potential to go deep, and it will stop acting by it self in 14 days, Silicea and the others used in c200 will not stop, and Kali mur is a Schusslersalt too, that do not have the properties of the real homeopatic Kali mur.
And if there shuld be a need to antidote it, pulsatilla x12 will do that, if not Silicea has done that already, the high potences is more to fear here, and is taken care of bu camphora. Most of the picture showed Silicea, dryness as you talk about can easely be from that, and not from Kali mur, but i find not mentioned dryness by the patient as a complaint either, and its not allowed to force a symptome on a patient, one is supposed to strictly work with whats at hand.
Impulsiveness points to Pulsatilla.
And advice me to look up paragraps, or referr to them, well i am not good to remember numbers, but the content is a other matter.
Anyway after three days on camp there should be a clear picture to work with, then to choose next remedie. Thats after organon, and maybe im a little more strict than organon it self, as i do not let any case linger on by it self till it gets better by it self, i do follow paragrap 1. concearn for the PATIENT FIRST,regardless of boxes like acute or chronic.All deserves equal attention.

PS.
Three years of misuse of laxative, causes more dryness than, three months of Kali mur, read up organon, And that calls for the use of hydrastis after antidoting, hydrastis is the first remedie for damage from laxatives. Better read the posts before asking unrelevant questions, or suppose this or that..

There is mentinoned nothing as i can recall, about hydrastis in organon, but of the use of laxatives, and mercury, in the first chapter. The metodes of the old school.
And about high potences, there is a lot of writing about that,§ 276, fotnote 106,-110, clearly states that you are mistaken,( speaks about disposition and mind as a sign on danger, that was not the case her, and i have never sen it in x12, or 6, and if to sift through it all, it may take a long time, but here is some: about your questioning of the use of camphora,§169-170. about antidoting:§§166-167-168-110-249-250-254-257-258-264-265
provoked disese, laxatives§149, §202, 131, 132, 133-134-135-136-137-110-105-75-74-72-70-69-39-34
remedies that must be repeated:251-111

Forgot fotnote 109, to §249, read it, it clearly states highpotence, not low.

AGAIN - jasmine's problem is not being addressed --

[This message has been edited by yvonne (edited 03 February 2000).]

Hello,
thank you for your information,though I amnot agree with you.
I think a small potency like 3x if repeated unnecessory for long time will do more harm than a single dose of high potency,because the nature of the content and action of homoeopathic dose .you know the material content of a high potency is nill or not meaurable .there is only dynamic power .it acts by means of similimum or its dose is very suceptable to similimum .that is why other symptoms of the drug administered is not acting(aph-153).so a single wrong dose will go itself and not stay there only because of the mode of preperation and action of our drug .(as I said its action is by its suceptability to simlimum) but in case of repeated low potency ,sructural changes may occur and a 3 day dose of camphor ,no use .the antidote is the next similimum.
and about your last posting ,you quoted something about laxatives and hydrastis in organon , I didn't find it ,so please show me the aph. or section if you remmeber.
anyway I am very happy with you about the discussion we conducted and hope in future too we will talk more on accadamical and philosophical poit of Homoeopathy.
thank you
pannakkal

The section I quoted above is 155 not 153.
pannakkal

PS, It can also be that you are not mistaken, it can be the translated copy of organon that has a fault, My teacher Gert Eselbøck Of the Dorcsi school, told us that there was some wrong translation from German to English, Also do D Little point out some misunderstandings here, as he Got some of Hahnemanns private papers, Dr Robert Seror is also saying this. So im not alone in having this impression and experience.
This so no misunderstanding need to occure.

hello,
none of the aphorisms you mentioned clarify your poit ,but it clarify my view.
section166 ,167,169 are all the view I said .no referance to camphor .aph 167 clearly alrify my view .it denotes what to do in acute case ,when imperfectly selected medicine is given and dosage in acute diseases , here the answer in aphorism is AS i said .-not camphora.
169-nothing aboout camphora, but thee content is what to do when two medicine are equally indicated.
110-no relation to this subject
249- about antedotes but not your way but -if the symptoms arising are new to the present disease antedote it .no mention of camphor here .and if it not very violent take the total case and give the next remedy immediately.
250 -is nothing about it but in relation to 167 ,that is as I said.
254-to simply observe
257-warning about favourite remedies.here your favurite remedy is camphor?the essence here is true physician will avoid favourite remedies.
257-totality of the characteristic symptom.
264-using of genuine medicies
265-try to prepare medicine self, to get medicine genuine.nothing about camphor.
251-not about the remedies that repeated as you said but about alternating action of different remedies.
111-norelation to this subject.
so cotinual prescription of camphor by you in many instances here I will not agree and in organon also as far as my knowledge .so if the sequale of the symptoms occured is not violent and life threatening ,wait until the real picture or of it is violent antedote it with small doses of new totality.
so I cannot agree with the unwanted use of camphor .it is only my openion . www.pannakkal.com

When taking the pharagraps out of the context i used, when answering you, it only give broken up nonsense.
Read them in relation to the order that they where presented.
And i will try to clarify for you:

§257, about favorite remedies, read this in relation to §258, who states, " a god dr, do not because of misbelive , avoid using a certain remedie, because he of his own faults and wrong use, has come to dislike it.

You state, that i have given referece to that camphor was mentioned in organon, thats completely wrong, and this you should know, if not reading organon for the first time.

You referr to §167, and state that this was a acute case, well i have to ask, do acute cases last three years?
Your answer is irrellevant to the case.

§110, is linked to camphor, and is a fault, as i have never expressed that.

§249, 167, the pharagraphs does not contain any grading of symptomes, that can be used as evaluation of degree of severety of the case, this is a individual observation, based upon my own experiences, according to §141-fotnote 85.

§254, The paragrahp does not evaluate the power of observation, perseption, or ability to observe the case, or understand it, all this is individual, one will person use several months to find a remedy, while Hahnemann needed only minutes.

§264, does not state "using of genuine medicines" that is a interpretion, it states the duty to know the origin and power of the remedy.
§265, is a sound advice, and a part of §264.

§251 repetition of homeopatic highpotences ref §111. In context to your comment here, read §247 correctly applied in acucte cases, what this is not, and x30 of camphora,, is to be resembled with x12 in other remedies, it works only 12 houers, a second dose, will do several things, slow down and also take a underlying layer.

And your misconception about to large dosages, first of all, three pills is not a large dose, secondly, when Hanemannn referrs to large doses, he talk about crude substances, materiell doses, if homeopatic, it is mothertincture he talks about, and not D(x) potences, except for those who is to near toxicality.
§276 fotnote 129 confirms that (this is a common misconception).

About your earlier statement of camphora not being appropriate in this case, i referr to §155-156, and §153

And if you want to get confirmation on my powers of observing, ask the patient as i recomended, that he reports back to you, so you with your own eyes see what happens, and get it confirmed what i do.

And ill bet hes a calcium carb, constitutional.

Also, about your waiting, read §249 fotnote110.

§270-fotnote126, if acute as you seem to belive this case is, this confims repitition of the doses.
In no way, can there be said, that organon, contraindicate my choice of camphora in this case as a antidote.
This is my opinion.
And you may have the last word, if you like it, ill stop the discussion here, i find no need for bringing it further, you either investigate with other sources, that my wuews is correct or wrong, or leave it at this, or at your liking.
I find no more time to argue unneded, as this becomes a free educational service for students.

This is my opinion.
Thank you.
GM


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