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Yeah, and double-blind drug trials are based upon wholly fouled-up and truly ignorant (deadly ignorant, in fact) basic erroneous assumptions
Would you mind explaining the problem with double blind studies? I understand that they're not useful for assessing the experience of a patient visiting a homeopathic doctor and getting a specific prescription. I'm only suggesting double blind studies be used to compare conventional over the counter medicine and homeopathic medicine bought similarly.

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Although this is a long subject, specifically, there are no specific drugs for allopathically defined diseases, and those disease-diagnostic categories are total falsehoods, anyway. You therefore try to make -1 + 1 = something other than zero but always fail. 2700 years of failed experiments on 50-100 billion people, all of whom have been murdered by your buddies in allopathic medicine, is not enough proof to you morons that you've got something wrong?
You're claim that there are no specific drugs for allopathically defined diseases is false. Surely we can agree that allopathic medicine has specific treatments for a range of diseases.

Are you capable of explaining how you think allopathic medicine has murdered 50-100 billion people? It is only estimated that about 70 billion people have died in the last 2700 years, so do you suggest virtually all of them were "murdered" by allopathic medicine?

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Links & studies published in journals: results better than placebo
1. Arnica Therapy in patients receiving knee surgery: Results of three randomised double blind trials

Researchers investigated the effeciveness of Arnica on post-operative swelling and pain

Three different randomised pacebo-controlled, double blind, and sequential clinical trials were conducted after arthroscopy, artficial knee joint implantation and crutiate ligament reconstruction.

A total of 227 patients were enrolled in the arthroscopy (33% females and the mean age was 43.2 years)

35 patients in artificfial knee joint implatation (71% females and mean age was 67 years)

57 patients in crutiate ligament reconstruction (26% females and mean age was 33.4 years)

The study conducted each with 2 parallel therapy groups, of which one recieved placebo, and the other with anica 30X.

The arnica Montana was manufacured by DHU in Karlsruhe, Germany in accordance with the guidelines of the German Homoeopathic Phamacopoeia.

In all the three trials, patient receiving Arnica showed a trend towards less post-operative swelling compared to patients with placebo.

Journal: Complementary Therapy in Medicne, Vol. 14, pp. 237-246, 2006
Here's a link to a study where arnica was shown to be no more effective than placebo:
Trial shows that homoeopathic arnica is no better than placebo -- Mayor 326 (7384): 303 -- BMJ
This study showed placebo to be more effective than arnica.
Double-blind, placebo-controlled, randomized clinical trial of homoeopathic arnica C30 for pain and infection after total abdominal hysterectomy.
We need to keep in mind is there's an element of chance involved in these trials. No one trial is proof of an effective treatment. When you look at all the trials testing arnica against placebo the majority indicate no difference. A few indicate better results from one or the other but this is because of statistical probability.
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Would you mind explaining the problem with double-blind studies?
Okay, one thing at a time.

They're [Edited: Disease-diagnostic categories are] inaccurate and fragmentary descriptions of reality (i.e., they're delusions and false definitions -- typical of all things allopathic) because nobody since the beginning of time has had and no one 'til the end of God will solely have only the common symptoms used to define and identify disease-diagnostic categories. A favorite analogy cometh. Here's my definition of a balloon: Kf wa pila asfou waweail jhgafza il satfsgjls. Did you get that? If you start out with distortions of reality in the very therapeutic formula used in all practices, which is precisely what allopaths invariably do (and connect the dots: It can't be reformed because you get homeopathy when you fix all of their dumb mistakes), what the hell do you expect you're going to get at the end? Why is this not obvious?

This goes on and on, but is that not enough of a bozo error to simply toss it out the window as a bunch of hokum? Oh, I forget to tell you. Socrates walked through the wall a couple of minutes ago because he likes it when I do stuff like this. That was his question. Clever guy, huh?

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I understand that they're not useful for assessing the experience of a patient visiting a homeopathic doctor and getting a specific prescription. I'm only suggesting double-blind studies be used to compare conventional over[-]the[-]counter medicine[s] and homeopathic medicine[s] bought similarly [similarly bought].
Okay, reasonable question and even temperament. My response is a question in turn: How do you do that? I'm all ears, sir.

[Edited Addition: I'm still waiting for him or anyone else to answer that question. It can't be done, though, and only ignorant fools brainwashed to allopathic constructs with no knowledge of homeopathy make such ridiculous suggestions. Those creepy crawlers will come through the floor boards if allowed, though, so I just wanted to make the point that it can't be done. I do not want another mongrel like him to try to tell me how it can since it can't. I want these people to go away, too, for they're unwittingly resonant with Hell (the lower Astral Plane) and are thus tools of Hell. I mean, get real! They're advocating mass murder, so what else could it be? They're dumb!

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Your claim that there are no specific [homeopathic] drugs for allopathically defined diseases is false. Surely, we can agree that allopathic medicine has specific treatments for a range of diseases.
Yeah, and their ever-shifting standard treatments from accidental discoveries of some bogus so-called "clinical effectiveness" (not cure, Jethro) are the lynch pins of allopathic therapeutics, aren't they? They're all from accidents, you morons! Some drug accidentally proved to be beneficial -- accidentally! It's not that they knew what was going to happen because they don't, not about any drug! In fact, they still haven't been able to design a drug to do what they wanted it to do, not after 70 years of trying in what's called molecular biology. These are your heroes? Get dead!

Notice that your therapeutic formula (i.e., an accurate disease diagnosis equals an effective therapy) doesn't contain the word cure. Uh oh, you're not going to like how I slam into you here. Ready, set, go. Since the primary if not sole purpose of both physicians and medicine is to cure, what's wrong with this picture, sir?

Now, I actually said it accurately, so watch this. It is impossible for there to be specific drugs for allopathically defined diseases because they're inaccurate descriptions of diseases in the first place. This goes on and on, but I'd rather not explain it if you got it. Did you get that?

[Edited Addition: He didn't get it, the moron. Of course, he's obviously a God-damned allopath [[advocate of allopathy as it turns out]], so the moron naturally wouldn't understand anything about medicine, would he? Watch for expertise in sophistry and obscuration coupled with distortion because it's basically all they ever do -- the morons!]

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Are you capable of explaining how you think allopathic medicine has murdered 50-100 billion people? It is only estimated that about 70 billion people have died in the last 2700 years, so do you suggest virtually all of them were "murdered" by allopathic medicine?
Sure. I can tell you're an allopathic physician [it turns out that he's just incredibly brainwashed, but they'll fix him right up, and then he'll never bother anyone on Earth ever again, as is promised on the back of the U.S. dollar bill by the designers and builders of the Great Pyramid of Giza], so I'll address this stuff to you personally. You people admit to euthanizing 71-72% of your patients in the U.S. However, 26% of cases [edited: deaths in allopathic hands] end up in wrongful-death suits. That's 97-98% of patients, and that's six million in the U.S. and nearly 100 million worldwide every year. Did you get that?

As for the estimate, I don't care. Arcane archives have never been wrong. Get some.

[Edited Addition: Notice how he also used the number 2700 years. That's as far back into history as we can go about medicine because God-damned Pauline Christians destroyed everything throughout the Fertile Crescent, everything in the Americas and everything else they ever got their slimy hands on. More importantly, though, the beginning of Greek medicine can be traced to 2700 years ago. However, the Greeks got everything they knew from the ancient Egyptians, and they all said so, too. I'll bet this moron doesn't know that because all he has is the "teacha tole me" krap of his kind, and academics are generally totally ignorant of history. Notice how he'll readily admit it, too. Those morons hold that civilization started 5000 years ago in Mesopotamia. How many thousands of things have proven that to be a total lie? Several, but jackasses like this bozo don't know even one of them because they just love to exhibit the idiotic servility of things taught them by total fools, and they're proud of it, too. They actually hang diplomas that prove they expertly acquiesced to all of the half-truths and lies they were taught. That's pretty pitiful and pathetic, isn't it? I know the kind of scumbag I'm talking to because I've encounted these big-horned monsters for decades. I'll play just to expose him, but this kind of exercise is futile since they have a vested interest in sustaining mass murder by physicians because it's very profitable to them. I'll then just ignore him since he's already demonstrating he's a total waste of space who'd be far better off dead. Let's hope it's soon and that he stays in Hell this time, eh?]

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Okay, now, if I shoot this down and it makes you unhappy, do you think I care? I would rather not talk with you people, sir. If we were even remotely civilized, you'd all be exiled for manslaughter and various other crimes. Indeed, just graduating from allopathic medical schools would be a crime because you have no cures. Why the hell would anyone want to do that, anyway?

Ready, set, go. I don't give a damn what studies show. I can cure. Can you? Obviously not or you'd be a homeopath, wouldn't you? Are we done yet? I mean, this is revolting to me. How do I get you to go away?

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We need to keep in mind is there's an element of chance involved in these trials. No one trial is proof of an effective treatment. When you look at all the trials testing arnica against placebo, the majority indicate no difference. A few indicate better results from one or the other, but this is because of statistical probability.
Fine, go ahead and insanely test homeopathy in an allopathic way. Bite me, moron! In fact, get dead! Go away! We're done. Grow longer horns. I don't give a damn about you monsters. Go away!
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They're inaccurate and fragmentary descriptions of reality (i.e., they're delusions and false definitions -- typical of all things allopathic)
Are you familiar of how a double blind study works? It's really the only non-biased way to compare the effectiveness of two medicines used in a specific controlled way. They should be perfect for testing homeopathic over the counter medications.
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Okay, reasonable question and even temperament. My response is a question in turn: How do you do that? I'm all ears, sir.
To do this we might take a homeopathic medication to treat a cough and an allopathic medication like Delsym. To be scientifically accurate we would also include a control that was given a fake medicine. The doctors measuring effectiveness of the treatment and the patients would not know which medicine they had been given. By comparing the results we could learn which medicines were effective.
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Yeah, and standard treatments are the lynch pins of allopathic treatments, aren't they? Notice that your therapeutic formula (i.e., an accurate disease diagnosis equals an effective therapy) doesn't contain the word cure. Uh oh, you're not going to like how I slam into you here. Ready, set, go. Since the primary if not sole purpose of both physicians and medicine is to cure, what's wrong with this picture, sir?
Actually allopathic treatment can cure a person. This is the case with most antibiotic treatments for example. The fact is some things can't be cured. Parkinsons has no known cure and while we might get there eventually the best thing we can do for these people is treat their symptoms. Fortunately allopathic treatment can dramatically improve the lives of people with Parkinsons. When my piano teacher forgets to take her medicine the difference is obvious in her shaking.
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Sure. I can tell you're an allopathic physician, so I'll address this stuff to you personally. You people admit to euthanizing 71-72% of your patients in the U.S. However, 26% of cases end up in wrongful-death suits. That's 97-98% of patients, and that's six million in the U.S. and nearly 100 million worldwide every year. Did you get that? As for the estimate, I don't care. Arcane archives have never been wrong. Get some.
Would you cite some of these statistics? Allopathic doctors definitely don't admit to euthanizing most of their patients.
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Okay, now, if I shoot this down and it makes you unhappy, do you think I care? I would rather not talk with you people, sir. If we were even remotely civilized, you'd all be exiled for manslaughter and various other crimes. Indeed, just graduating from allopathic medical schools would be a crime because you have no cures. Why the hell would anyone want to do that, anyway?
I find it sad that we can't have an intelligent conversation without you getting enraged. I'm not a doctor by the way, I'm a student and I intend to enter an engineering field, not a medical one.
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Okay, one thing at a time.

They're inaccurate and fragmentary descriptions of reality (i.e., they're delusions and false definitions -- typical of all things allopathic) because nobody since the beginning of time has had and no one 'til the end of God will solely have only the common symptoms used to define and identify disease-diagnostic categories.
Indeed. Test are always simplifications. However, 'allopathic' medicine is more concerned with causes than symptoms.

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A favorite analogy cometh. Here's my definition of a balloon: Kf wa pila asfou waweail jhgafza il satfsgjls. Did you get that?
Methinks you are wrong about the 'asfou' there. But let me give you another:

Here is my definition of a certain medical system: An archaic idea of disease, based on willful ignorance about the inner functions of the body, and using medicines based on willful ignorance about physics.

Did you get that?

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Oh, I forget to tell you. Socrates walked through the wall a couple of minutes ago because he likes it when I do stuff like this. That was his question. Clever guy, huh?
Clever? Quite. But, would you trust your health to his level of medical knowledge?

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Okay, reasonable question and even temperament. My response is a question in turn: How do you do that? I'm all ears, sir.
Let's see:

Claim of OTC homeopathy: "If you take this paticular remedy, you will cure this particular disease."

Sounds familiar? ... Yep, totally plagiarizing 'allopathy'. Why do YOU even think of defending that?

However, if it claims to work in the same mode as 'allopathy', it should also lend itself to same tests as 'allopathy'.


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Yeah, and standard treatments are the lynch pins of allopathic treatments, aren't they? Notice that your therapeutic formula (i.e., an accurate disease diagnosis equals an effective therapy) doesn't contain the word cure.
Yeah, that's perfectly correct. Interesting, isn't it? How do YOU define 'cure', sir?

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Uh oh, you're not going to like how I slam into you here. Ready, set, go. Since the primary if not sole purpose of both physicians and medicine is to cure, what's wrong with this picture, sir?
OUCH, that hurt! ... wait... no, it didn't, actually. Who defined that the sole purpose is to cure? Ahh yes, Sam did. Good enough, that is a noble goal, but not the only one, methinks.

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Now, I actually said it accurately, so watch this. It is impossible for there to be specific drugs for allopathically defined diseases because they're inaccurate descriptions of diseases in the first place. This goes on and on, but I'd rather not explain it if you got it. Did you get that?
Got it. Which things in the world can you describe accurately? And we can't do a thing about them if was can't describe them accurately? That's gonna be tough.

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You people admit to euthanizing 71-72% of your patients in the U.S.
Ehr, no. Methinks anybody doing this would soon run out of patients. I mean, maybe people are dumb, but not that dumb.

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However, 26% of cases end up in wrongful-death suits.
Nahh. Actually most cases don't end up in death at all. Better check your sources (if you are interested in facts, that is. Otherwise, carry on).

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Ready, set, go. I don't give a damn what studies show. I can cure. Can you? Obviously not or you'd be a homeopath, wouldn't you? Are we done yet? I mean, this is revolting to me. How do I get you to go away?
You can cure, but you cannot show a difference between what you do and sham medicine? What's wrong with that picture?

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Fine, bite me! In fact, get dead! Go away! We're done. Grow longer horns. I don't give a damn about you monsters. Go away!
Booo!

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Are you familiar of [with] how a double[-]blind study works?
Yes, but are you familiar with their insoluble problems when you plug in the hokum of false descriptions of diseases and wrongly, insanely assume that chemical drugs can ever possibly be transformed into actual remedies plus all of the other errors of allopathic medicine? I think not or you wouldn't insanely defend mass murder by physicians, would you? "Dumb, dumb, dumb" (Beethoven).

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It's really the only non-biased way to compare the effectiveness of two medicines used in a specific controlled way.
No, it's not. You only believe that (emphasis) because some other totally ignorant fool told you so ("Teacha tole me!"), but you'll both lose your pitiful, useless and obviously unwanted Souls in about 7000 years, so what do I care about helping further than this if you don't? You're also pitiful and pathetic!

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They should be perfect for testing homeopathic over[-]the[-]counter [OTC] medications.
Wrongo, daddyo! So far, you've failed to make an accurate statement about anything. Where do you suppose the limit of my tolerance, patience, forbearance, charity, kindliness and humility is with dangerously ignorant fools like you? Oh, foolish one, you long since passed it as soon as you opened your ignorant mouth and put pen to paper by banging keys. You don't know anything about medicine -- nothing whatsoever! -- and yet you think I should correct all of your moronic mistakes? No, thank you. Go back to Hell and ask them to help you, and hurry along, fool.

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To do this[,] we might take a homeopathic medication to treat a cough . . .
See, total brainwashing and total ignorance. That's a pretty bad and dangerous combination, is it not? Grow horns, but get the hell away from me!

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. . . and an allopathic medication like Delsym. To be scientifically accurate[,] we would also include a control that was given a fake medicine. The doctors measuring effectiveness of the treatment . . .
And, there's yet another one. We have no idea how total morons can fail to see that a therapeutic formula lacking the word "cure" is simply insane, but they all do it, and so do their equally insane advocates like this moron. Again, go back to Hell, you moron! Unfortunately, there are 6.8 billion of these idiots incarnant. Who cares if they don't?

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. . . and the patients would not know which medicine they had been given. By comparing the results[,]
How could you or your murderous heroes compare results if you can't even properly define diseases, if you have no idea of what health is, if you don't know anything about the process of cure, if you know nothing about the purpose of existence or anything about the nature of the universe? That's kind of ridiculous, isn't it? Oh, well, it's the only krap that ever comes out of mouths like yours, so we're used to it. The question is, how can you people get used to not knowing anything about anything? That's crazy, isn't it? Go away, you moron!

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. . . we could learn which medicines were effective.
No, you couldn't. Suck on dynamite, #######. Better, try to smoke it. Go away!

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Actually[,] allopathic treatment can cure a person.
Yeah, well, accurate medical facts don't come on the back of Cracker Jack boxes, you moron. Your heroes say exactly the opposite about all viral infections, all chronic diseases and all psychiatric maladies; viz., they can't cure them. If they say they can't, and you say they can, who should we believe? Go get some medical books. Go away!

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This is the case with most antibiotic treatments[,] for example.
As I've said many times in this forum, these ######## always bring up antibiotics. Bacterial infections are only 0.01% of all deadly illnesses in industrialized countries. They're pitiful and pathetic! How do we get them to shut up other than patiently awaiting their heroes euthanizing them and permanently sending them back to Hell? I wish I knew.

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The fact is[,] some things can't be cured.
Shut up, you ignorant moron! Go tell your lies to other fools like you, but stay in that sandbox this time, okay? Go away! Get dead!

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Parkinsons [Parkinson's] has no known cure . . .
Lie, lie, lie . . . that's all these morons ever do. Total ignorance does that to a person, though, you know?

Link: KENT1390, "paralysis agitans." That's what we called it before you ######### and your murderous heroes decided to change the name of it. Fancy skill: Name diseases. No cures, but your heroes are certainly experts at naming diseases even though none of them are even remotely accurate descriptions of reality, and acquiescence to this endless hokum by fools like you constantly proves you're insane, a ########, dangerously ignorant and whatnot. I repeat (link: living with Scoliosis), "Without any exceptions whatsoever, every drug listed in our reliable repertories under disease-diagnostic categories are there solely because cases of them have been cured with those drugs -- without exceptions!"

Shut up, you ignorant moron! Go tell your lies to other fools like you somewhere else. I don't care where. Go to the Moon. Go to Hell. Go back to Hell. Go play with yourself. Go sit on your thumb. Go fly a kite. I don't care what you do, but do it elsewhere, ########. Go away! Get dead!

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. . . and while we might [eventually] get there eventually[,]
Translation: "Keep giving us trillions of dollars a year to keep us billionaires and multi-millionaires and to keep all of you 6.5 billion morons foder for our greed. Keep up your hope in us. I know we've been asking this for thousands of years without any cures, but do keep up the hope, and definitely keep sending us your money, for we love to spend it, you morons." Shut up, ########! Go away! Get dead! Go back to Hell!

Notice, too, that s/he's quite illiterate to be writing at the ninth-grade level. He below says he's going to become an engineer. That means he's either in undergraduate work or is still in high school. Who wants to bet he's in the ninth grade?

Sir, do you think you can argue insane views with a Hahnemannian homeopathic physician and get away with it when those insane views sustain mass murder by physicians? Sign of the times. I am not your mommy or your daddy, fool. If you say krap in my presence, per the Golden Rule, I will destroy you. Again, shut up, ########! go away! get dead! go back to Hell!

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. . . the best thing we can do for these people is treat their symptoms.
Noting first that their standard treatment for Parkinson's is to drill holes in the head and then shove two electrodes into the brain as though it's an apple, thereby destroying probably hundreds of millions of neurons, notice the wonderful demonstration of total brainwashing and total ignorance in the phrase "treat the symptoms." Since diseases can only make themselves apparent to our senses by their symptoms, what the hell else could we possibly be interested in? Mindless morons that they are, they arrogantly say, "Treat the cause!" It's a siren call to morons, though, so watch out.

Let's briefly expose this krap. This should take about ten seconds. What does that tell you? Ready, set, go. They only know 10% of human physiology, so how the hell could they possibly know the cause of any disease? Hey, we don't need to go any further, do we? We will, though. They can't cure, so why listen to people who tell us they're quacks (by definition, "therapeutic incompetents")? That's good enough, methinks. Socrates just poked his head through the wall and nodded, and there's Shakespeare with the same reaction. Good enough for me. Watch this moron fail to perceive it, though. "They see but do not perceive" (Christ).

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Fortunately[,] allopathic treatment can dramatically improve the lives of people with Parkinsons.
Lie, lie, lie yet again. As I said, that's all these morons ever do. Ready, set, go. Shut up, ########! Go away! Get dead! Go back to Hell!

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When my piano teacher forgets to take her medicine[,] the difference is obvious in her shaking.
And? You think that's cure? Watch what happens to him or her through the years, though, for it's invariably a ghastly agonal, horrendously horrible and premature iatrogenic death in allopathic hands, you moron. Hurry along to your approval of that on yourself, but be sure to first sign papers allowing those mass murderers to kill your parents. You'll love that, I'm sure, you ########!

Uh oh, let's not go that direction any further, though. Notice that these morons constantly dismiss what they call "anecdotal evidence." Wow, caught ya!

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Would you cite some of these statistics?
No, lazy one. Go find them for yourself, ########!

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Allopathic doctors definitely don't admit to euthanizing most of their patients.
Yes, they do, ########. The problem is that totally brainwashed people like you fail to notice these astonishing admissions. Get a new brain!

Go talk to your heroes, you ignorant fool. Go away! Waste somebody else’s time with your stupid remarks and outrageous ignorance of homeopathy and medicine and yet having opinions. If somebody tells you that the sky’s actually purple, what are you going to do? Who cares what morons think? Go away!

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I find it sad that we can't have an intelligent conversation without you getting enraged.
Do you now? You're ignorantly and in total servility -- manifesting as total brainwashing to a bunch of half-truths and lies -- supporting mass murder by physicians, and you believe I should accept that and speak to you as though you're not doing that? They do that in Hell, don't they? Go back, fool!

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I'm not a doctor[,] by the way,[.]
Yeah, I can perceive that in this posting. It was the even temperament that confused me. They also think it's just an intellectual discussion, though. No, Jethro. Christ kicked you people out of the Temple and is removing you dangerously ignorant fools from the planet as we speak and over the next 1000 years, so it's not an intellectual discussion. You're ignorantly supporting mass murder, and I don't. It's that simple, and your opinions don't matter because you can't defend any of them. Go away. I promise that I won't think ill of you if you simply go away and don't bother us again.

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I'm a student[,] and I intend to enter an engineering field, not a medical one.
Right, and here we see his or her total lack of values and total ignorance of right and wrong, truth and falsehood or good an bad. That certainly explains everything I need to know to thoroughly ignore you forever, for you're going to be one of the billion lieutenants of the antiChrist (the power structures, fool). That does it: Go to Hell!

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----- An engineer also doesn’t like that statement and asks me, "What’s wrong with engineering?" For one thing, planned obsolescence. "I don’t do that." Yes, you do. "No, people in charge do that." Yeah, and you let them. "What am I supposed to do?" Not be involved with evil people. "Then, I wouldn’t have a job, because they all do it." Exactly, and that’s a largely insoluble problem with being an engineer today, so what’s wrong with planned obsolescence? "OMG, all engineers know that we are about 50-100 years behind where we could and should be, and nobody has any idea where we would be if none of it had happened from the beginning of the Industrial Revolution." Yeah, but some people know that we could have developed flying saucers by now without planned obsolescence. "I suppose that’s possible. [He considers a moment and continues.] Yeah, that’s likely because we’re probably not that far away from such technologies." See, you answered your own question, so why’d you ask me? Sorry, that’s a rhetorical question I didn’t ask right, but I have something in particular to ask you about as a sterling example of what’s wrong when engineers and scientists take no responsibility for their actions.

----- Do you know the story of Nicola Tesla? "Not much." That never ceases to amaze me with you guys. You’re the ones who should know the most about him, but most of you have barely even heard of him. "Okay, I know that he developed alternating-current electricity, and that provided the basis for all subsequent technology, so he was a very big deal. I also know that he was constantly giving amazing public demonstrations of his control of electricity. He was constantly creating amazing technologies way ahead of his time and apparently clear up to his death about 10 years after World War II. Everything he built worked as soon as he turned it on and supposedly without any drawings. The last one was some machine to read thoughts that he apparently never finished. The suggestion is that he needed modern computers, and that’s the stuff about him that I constantly think about because I wonder how he did it with what we’d call primitive gizmos. He also said that we have to move the Earth in space to avoid asteroids and comets, and he told how but only by saying that we have to put a metal band around the Earth and take advantage of the fact that it’s basically nothing more than a gigantic electrical condenser -- whatever that means. Nobody is even suggesting that solution, but I think it’s the only option. I also know that he apparently created an earthquake in Philadelphia or someplace with a tiny device he could hold in his hand. I said that what I know isn’t much because I’ve long meant to do a serious, multi-year study of his stuff. Is that better?"

----- Okay, that’s much more helpful. Thank you. The earthquake was in Boston. [He nods.] You’re exactly the kind of engineer I wish all of them were. There’s hope for the future with people like you, so I hope you separate yourself from the God-damned corporations and find work for yourself. "That’s the plan." He developed tremendously advanced technologies that he couldn’t sell, and he died broke. "Right, and that’s the scary part of the plan."

----- "That brings up a related major problem with engineering. Did you know he developed totally safe electricity that was squelched by the billionaire who owned Westinghouse? "No." Yeah, J.P. Morgan, and the key was ultra-high frequencies. We use 60 cycles per second, right? "Yeah, and that’s deadly." Before the electrical grid went online between Niagara Falls and Buffalo, New York, he quickly developed totally safe AC electricity by running the frequencies up to well beyond 100,000 cycles per second. Electricity can course through your body at those frequencies and apparently do no harm. "Really?" Yeah, and the only reason that billionaire didn’t let Tesla rewire that first AC electrical grid was that it would have taken him 3-7 days to do so and thus cost that billionaire that much profit. Consequently, ever since then, people have needlessly died from electrocution all attributable to that greed of one man. My point is that you’ve certainly seen suppressed technologies and innovations, haven’t you? "OMG, yes! Management is constantly shooting down our innovations due to costs. All engineers are aware of thousands of important technologies that have been suppressed for profit, and everyone daily sees minor innovations that are killed for profit." Exactly, so that’s a problem, isn’t it? [He bellows laughter and then goes silent and responds.] "Point well taken, Albert." (That conversation also goes on and on.)

----- BTW, are you aware of the fact that his electrical transmission through the air was recently redeveloped at MIT? "No, you’re kidding!" No, it’s taken quite a while, hasn’t it? "Yes, that was fully a century ago that he tried to prove it could be done, and the project simply died without funding." Right. The really cool thing about this is that their technique also has ultra-high frequencies. They report more than a million times a second, and Tesla said that he had not yet found the limit of that phenomenon. "Wow!" [I smile.] Yeah, and they also used two Tesla coils two feet in diameter. [He laughs.] Right, that’s tiny compared to his big ones, aren’t they? "Yeah!" The other really cool thing they redeveloped was his tiny receiving stations. He talked about how you could get electricity to a campsite in the mountains by simply putting an electrical node on the ground, but they’re talking about doing it with microchips or something. As a consequence, they’re looking to transmit electricity to cell phones and laptops from Wi-Fi senders. "Wow, that’s really good! OMG, that’s really good! This is truly the 21st century." Yeah. Look for another job, pal. [We both laugh.]”
We're having a discussion? That's what you call it? You don't know what you're talking about, and we're having a discussion? You're a babbling idiot. I try to help babbling idiots, but I don't have discussions with them because they can't keep my company, and I certainly don't have discussions with God-damned advocates of mass murder!

You have a lot of God-damned gall to suggest we're equals, fool. Guess what, Jethro? Nobody in the George Vithoulkas school of thought (GVs) can keep my company, but they're at least 12 years ahead of you, probably closer to 100 given that you haven't even begun to reexamine your medical views and they're already at the jumping-off point into legitimate, real, pure, true, classical, Hahnemannian homeopathy. You're my equal, but you're a total #######? Clever sophistry, Bubba. A discussion, and yet you babble? Fancy dictionary, Bubba. Look up #######, and it will say to see you. Go away and have a discussion with your ####### from the inside. I'm sure it has lots of wisdom to impart to you.

Listen up, mongrel boy. I told you that I'll have no more truck with you because you're either a mass murderer or an insane advocate of it -- the latter, as it turns out -- but I'll give you one chance to retain my attention and love. After all, I would otherwise just ignore you, wouldn't I? In fact, I'll bet your father and mother did that to you, and that's why you insanely want to go into engineering, right? Go here: Homoeopathic Hospital? to posting #23. Accurately and fully answer all of those questions and accurately and fully address all of those issues. If you do, we'll talk more. (That will surely keep him busy until he permanently goes back to Hell. What do you think?)

Again, I will not talk to mass murderers and their advocates, and I would willingly be the person who executes all of you for your crimes. Did you get it that time? Go away!

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How do YOU define 'cure', sir?
Yeah, I've repeatedly noticed that you've never read my stuff, so shut up, go away and get dead, you useless moron and advocate of mass murder by physicians! I repeat, he's from QuackBusters, and he's a God-damned Nux-vomica patient (link: Nux vomica w/o irritability?, posting #45). He's on the payroll of God-damned billionaires and multi-millionaires with trillions of dollars at stake every year, so of course they want to sustain that racket, i.e., that racketeering -- a crime! To do that, they have to destroy homeopathy because it's the only real threat since everything else is also quackery because they also can't cure. It is, however, inevitable that the destruction of allopathic medicine's involvement in diseases will cease come the next Great Plague. Hans still wants horns. Who is surprised?

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OUCH, that hurt! ... wait... no, it didn't, actually. Who defined that the sole purpose is to cure? Ahh yes, Sam did. Good enough, that is a noble goal, but not the only one, methinks.
Shut up! Go away, you moron! Link: Homeopathy Vs Allopathy, posting #30. But look, MRS Hans doesn't have any character, honor, integrity or anything like that -- link: Homoeopathic Hospital?, posting #23. He thinks it's a good idea to practice being a devil, and he's good at it, isn't he? In fact, he's the best at it of all of those nefarious, despicable, destructive, amoral, ignorant, brainwashed and totally evil people here insanely advocating for allopathic medicine and mass murder by physicians. That's not a good thing, though, is it, Jethro?

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Got it. Which things in the world can you describe accurately? And we can't do a thing about them if was can't describe them accurately? That's gonna be tough.
Yeah, show everyone else how dumb and compromised you are, fool. I like it. Keep it up, guy.

That's Moon talk, right? It means something, right? It would have been more helpful if you spoke that in your own language so that we could more easily laugh at the moron you see in the mirror: "liajtr aa oa soilufsa, ja wowqruilqi gfa h agfqa." Yeah, I got that, Hans. Better: Hans, well done. Just what I wanted, you moron. Now, shut up, fool!

Notice how that was an expert demonstration in sophistry and obscuration typical of Nux-vomica patients. Specifically, notice how he completely deflected the fact. Some fool in LaLa Land thinks the moron MRC Hans made a comprehensible statement even though he didn't. In fact, he didn't say anything. It's an irrefutable fact that if you have your definitions and basic assumptions totally wrong, your conclusions and the practices that result from them are going to be fouled up. That's the History of Science 101. It's undeniable, but he deflected it with expert sophistry and obscuration. In effect, he tried to say it's not true, but he didn't go that far because he knows he'd be caught lieing. Like I said when trying to explain Nux-vomica patients (link: Nux vomica w/o irritability?, posting #45),

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Nux-vomica patients engage in endless cunning, deceit and subterfuge. In fact, it’s almost true to say that if they’re saying something, they’re somehow lying. That’s quite unimaginable, isn’t it? Conscience is one of the 10 Qualities of Mind installed into each of us at Creation, but it seems to be wholly lacking in these wretched people. How is that possible? It makes no difference, and it’s enough to say that we can cure them.
I said, "You people admit to euthanizing 71-72% of your patients in the U.S," and this moron then said:

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Ehr, no. [Liar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!] Methinks anybody doing this would soon run out of patients. I mean, maybe people are dumb, but not that dumb.
There ya go, buddy. Keep it up, you moron.

Yeah, they do, but it's servility and brainwashing that actually sustain allopathic medicine. They essentially go, "Ma'am, will you accept the existence of doctors without cures if we mesmerize you with gibberish and wear white coats?" "Sure!" Keep defending that, Hans, you super-moron.

"They would soon run out of patients"? No, they take decades doing it because they're experts at it in a God-damned blood cult of inadvertent human sacrafice. Show us your pride in it, Hans. Grow those horns even bigger, you evil moron.

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Nahh. Actually[,] most cases don't end up in death at all. Better check your sources (if you are interested in facts, that is. Otherwise, carry on).
My hero! Keep it up, fool.

Folks, notice his sly technique of distortion there, which goes hand-in-hand with his and their equally evil techniques of sophistry and obscuration. He said that "most cases" don't end up in death, but that's not what I said, is it, you long-horned monster from Hell? [Edited Addition: Actually, I did say that, so I add a note four paragraphs down.] I said they kill 97-98% of their patients, and that's a fact they also admit to without anyone noticing because they're obviously all brainwashed morons to not hear these extraordinary admissions we've always said about allopaths. They push and push at their ignorant and servile victims with poisons, the knife and ray gun until their organism simply can't take that onslaught anymore, and then it generally convulses until somebody signs papers allowing allopathic monsters to kill them with large doses of a barbiturate.

Incidentally, that's the American death, folks. You all sign off on it (i.e., approve of it), too, by having allopathic physicians, allowing our government to give money to any allopathic institutions and -- way down the list of such national sins -- even listening to those self-admitted quacks ("therapeutic incompetents"). That's pretty dumb, isn't it? I mean, it makes virtually everyone complicit in mass murder by physicians. Yeah, that's pretty dumb, Jethro and Elly May.

Some people don't sign those papers, though, and some iatrogenic ("physician-induced") deaths are irrefutable cases of manslaughter because allopathic medicine is inherently dangerous and deadly and increasingly so from more and more interactions with the quacks. Who is surprised?

MRS Hans, you thought I'd miss that, didn't you? You are a true wolf in sheep's clothing, and I know you lots better than you know yourself, you monster! Link: Nux vomica w/o irritability?, posting #45.

[Edited Addition: Actually, I did say that, and it's accurate. This is yet another example of where allopathic definitions are totally wrong -- all of them! It also proves that allopaths are (as Harris Coulter brilliantly put it in DIVIDED LEGACY: A HISTORY OF THE SCHISM IN MEDICAL THOUGHT, Vol. III) "anti-historical." They define a case as a disease, not an ill person. These dangerously ignorant morons therefore insanely believe (emphasis) that a person can have a cold, then flu, then gastritis, then gastric ulcers, then pancreatitis, then pancreatic cancer, then hearth disease, then a series of heart attacks, then skin cancer, then Hodskin's disease, then lupus, then . . . ad infinitum, and they're all supposedly separate cases. No, you morons! A case is an ill person, and they remain a case until fully cured. If we ignore that cure only happens through legitimate homeotherapeutics and that full cure is quite beyond the wildest imaginings of people who're unfamiliar with homeopathy, for it includes actual mental freedom, we get to ask about the definition of "a case," why is this not obvious? Don't worry, they won't respond. We prove them wrong at all turns, but they never admit it.

Why did MRS Hans do this, though? I mean, it looks like intentional distortion, doesn't it? Yeah, buddy! He's expert at it, too. I repeat, he's a God-damned Nux-vomica patient (link: http://www.otherhealth.com/homeopath...lity-5.html).]

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You can cure, but you cannot show a difference between what you do and sham medicine? What's wrong with that picture?
Obscuration coupled with sophistry. Keep it up, Hans. You said that without any knowledge whatsoever. How typical of your low-grade kind. You're hired to support mass murder by self-admitted quacks and to sustain their God-damned pharmaceutical companies (the people who actually control and determine allopathic therapeutics, and the people who pay this monster), and they know that homeopathy will eventually destroy them all when a Great Plague inevitably comes, just as has always happened, because only we can cure viral infections and antibiotic-resistant bacteria as well as all chronic diseases and psychiatric maladies. You're in cahoots with future Black Mentalists who're the personification of evil, and you're proud of it because Nux-vomica patients don't have any morality, honor or character and are insanely proud of the fact that they don't know anything worth knowing = agnostics. You're pitiful and pathetic!

I "cannot show any difference," huh? Liar, liar, liar! I've done little more than exactly that the entire time I've been posting here, and my postings are often as long as papers published in homeopathic medical journals.

Folks, let me explain why he said that. Nux-vomica patients are really sly devils. He's attempting to suck me into another series of debates. When he first started posting here, which started because I posted elsewhere and encountered this monster from the deep and he then followed me back here (I'm sorry!), we caught him lieing at least 50 times. God knows how many lies he's told since then, but I'm srue it's a lot because it's basically the only thing he does. The last time I barfed on this fool, we discovered he's part of QuackBusters. He never responds to any facts we present him. He's never tested homeopathy. In fact, he's paid to disrupt homeopathic forums. Who pays him? Billionaires and multi-millionaires because they know they're done for come a Great Plague since only we can cure them. They're criminals, and it will eventually be discovered that they're directly responsible for mass murder, so they're actively trying to destroy homeopathy's resurgance. Do you think humanity will allow that to happen? They don't care. In fact, they have no morality whatsoever. All of those people are agnostics. As such, they believe that it simply doesn't matter what happens after they're dead. Therefore, they can do things that will destroy the planet within a century without it bothering them in the slightest. They can sustain a very profitable system of medicine of doctors without cures who create the very diseases they can't cure and who kill all of their patients and a medical system that's directly responsible for all of the horrors of industrial chemistry without it bothering them in the slightest. They can buy and own every politician without it bothering them in the slightest. They can create wars for profit without it bothering them in the slightest. They can maintain control over entire economies and create crises when social advancements proceed without it bothering them in the slightest, and they do that because they know that servile populations will willingly surrender their civil rights for pretended security against threats. That's what Herman Goering said at the Nuremberg trials. To whit:

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Voice or no voice [radio, newspapers, etc.], the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked [emphasis mine] and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger [emphasis mine]. It works the same in any country.
The billionaires and multi-millionaires learned that lesson very well. Actually, though, that has been going on since dynastic Egypt, and -- I just love this part -- they taught Hitler and the Nazis that technique of controlling the masses. This goes on and on. My point is that MRC Hans works for those people. In effect, his agenda is to see to it that everyone is killed by allopaths. That's how Nux-vomica patients justify horrible things; i.e., they don't even bother. He's truly pitiful and pathetic.

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Booo!
Yeah, that fits a future demon from Hell. Keep it up, you moron. I will soon again totally ignore you and see to it that you stay the hell away from me on this forum, but I'm not quite through with you this time, you mongrel. Eat some more dog food before you respond, Fido.

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I'm waiting for them to allow my responses through. Wouldn't it be a shame if they destroyed them? Imagine the writings of any previous Hahnemannians being destroyed by allopaths. What would happen? How would you like not having some of the writings we have from previous Hahnemannians and discovering that other supposed homeopaths destroyed them? That's what they do here. I'm still waiting for them to justify this, too. Who wants to guess that they'll pass on it and take pot luck at the proverbial Heavenly Tribunal? Uh oh, that's not smart. I'm waiting.
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Thanks for the entertainment, Albert.
I rest my case.

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