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Lets turn this around a bit:
Please answer all questions-
1-Moopet What is your background? I see-
Location UK Occupation Engineer In your profile


I know full well What Kaviraj is,Many of his articles at www.hpathy.com (see for yourself)
the genious of AgroHomeopathics!

2-Moopet What is your claim to fame?

3-Are you bored with too much time on your hands,speuwing rhetoric on homeopathic discussion forums?

4-Whats the motivation?
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Lets turn this around a bit:
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1-Moopet What is your background? I see-
Location UK Occupation Engineer In your profile
I'm a software developer these days but I have no relevant background.
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I know full well What Kaviraj is,Many of his articles at www.hpathy.com (see for yourself)
the genious of AgroHomeopathics!
His spelling is no better than yours, and his arguments are even less coherent. His "articles" are gibberish and rant.
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2-Moopet What is your claim to fame?
I'm not famous. Is that important?
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3-Are you bored with too much time on your hands,speuwing rhetoric on homeopathic discussion forums?
On the contrary, I have very little spare time for this.
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4-Whats the motivation?
Originally, to discuss things, to build up my experience debating, to learn why some people believe things other people consider crazy.

Now, I find it frustrating that people can't give a straight answer. I find it insulting that people call me a liar and can't even stand up for themselves by backing it up. I like to try to get them to do so.

I used to get much more annoyed and frustrated, but over the years I've developed quite a thick skin towards other people's insults.
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where you claimed the Rct is a valid means to assess the action of a medicine. i have shown this is a plain lie. RCT is a load of bull, that's all.
if you cannot read and draw proper concliusions then that is not my fault
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You appear to have stopped speaking. While this is probably a good thing, you still haven't backed yourself up. You've not shown that anything I've said is a lie. You've just continued to attack/dismiss me without showing any signs of wanting to behave yourself.

You still have the opportunity to back up what you said. The world hasn't ended. I'm still listening.

Go on.
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Hi Moopet

Wanna try and explain a 'biochemical nothing' again? Go on.

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Hi Moopet

Wanna try and explain a 'biochemical nothing' again? Go on.

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My own invented phrase, admittedly not very good, to imply a substance having no biological effect. Well, beyond hydration.

See also: homeopathy.

I thought I'd said this bit before?
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Here is another one: Homeopaths give remedies to plants(agrohomeopathy) and Animals (homeopathicvets) and to tiny infants/babies. All the above have no clue as to the remedies they have taken,nothing to analyse,only the homeopath knows what remedy has been given.Yet the remedies work!

Whats your reply to this?
Infants: Homeopathic medicines and treatments are successfully used by parents for common infant ailments such as colic, teething pain and some infections.

Animals: There are many veterinarians using homeopathic medicines to treat domestic pets such as cats, dogs and birds, as well as barnyard animals like goats, horses and cows. Is it possible to have a placebo effect with animals?

The effects of homeopathic medicines have been observed repeatedly on neonates, unconscious patients.
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The effects of homeopathic medicines have been observed repeatedly on neonates, unconscious patients.
Observed by homeopaths. That's why trials need to be double-blind.
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While I know that chemo and radiotherapy don't have very high success rates, I can't actually find any reliable source that quotes any numbers after a brief search online - apart from for very specific small trials which vary wildly and aren't a good source of numbers to quote.

Your linked site is, of course, a pro-homeopathy resource, inherently anti-medicine, and I don't feel compelled to give it much weight. Something impartial would be better. Backing up non-scientific claims with other non-scientific sites is circular.

Suppose it's accurate. Then we have

chemo ~= 3% greater survival.
homeo = 0% greater survival.

Unless you claim homeopathy can cure cancer? In anything other than an anecdote or an uncontrolled situation?
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Placebo controls are necessary because there is a placebo effect.
Showing that you are better than placebo, which in turn may be better than nothing, is better than showing you are better than nothing, which may not be better than placebo. Placebo is, to all intents, the standard for biochemical "nothing", because it's helping to rule out psychological effects.
It's the best we can do, isn't it?
Homeopathic ‘placebo’: much more effective than conventional medicine’s placebo

Allen Roses, of GSK told a scientific meeting in London that the "vast majority of drugs only work in 30 or 50% of people." It was reported on the front page of the Independent newspaper on 8 December .
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BMJ Clinical Evidence says only somewhere between 26-34% of 2,500 commonly used treatments have some proven benefit. The Bristol study [Bristol Homeopathic Hospital] concluded 70%+ of patients reported some improvement with homeopathic treatment. The Berlin study came up with similar percentages and concluded that patients using homeopathy had better outcomes than patients using conventional medicine. Glasgow Homeopathic Hospital’s ongoing audits of patient response return similar percentages.

It’s worth emphasising that while controls might be absent in these studies, the patient cohorts tend to have a high percentage (80%+) of chronic complaints of which an equally high percentage (80%+) have failed to respond to conventional treatment. If they failed to respond to conventional treatment, in which the placebo effect is likely to be considerably stronger than in homeopathy, then it’s reasonable to suggest that these are patients who are not particularly susceptible to placebo response. If they failed to respond to conventional treatment, then it’s reasonable to suggest that for these patients, homeopathy proved to be the more effective option.”

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