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Hi Ryan,
I think the best way to convince anybody about the effectiveness of homeopathy is to find a good homeopath who will help you out with your child's heath problems as they happen. Then each instance of healing can be effectively explained in person.

Other than that there is a lot of reference reading material on this site (see the main home page) and many of the discussions here may provide you with futhur information, website URL's, etc that you need. Do a search with the key words you are looking for.

I wish you all the best in your quest for "natural" health!
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Old 25th November 2003, 04:16 AM
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Ryan,

Here's one link, which, I beleive, does not mention anything like homeopathy not once. But quite interesting all the same.

http://www.vaccinationdebate.com/web7.html

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Here is a site:

http://www.909shot.com/

This is a source of links on vacinations.

http://www.holisticmed.com/www/vaccine.html
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Hello,

My wife and I are new parents and still pretty young. I am 23, she is 25, and our son is now 1 years old. I have fought to ensure our sons health by pleading that my son not be vaccinated to my wife and her mother and the doctors. They all think Im nuts, but my family has has practiced natural medicine for the past 6 years or so. So far I have convinced my wife to at least hold off until our son is old enough to let us know if he has something wrong. Her mother is a RN and is needless to say not very happy about our decision. I am trying to collect imformation about Natural medicine that maybe affective to prove to those such as her mother and our pediatrician that we are not crazy. My mother turned me on to homeopathy, but I need another source in order to no show bias. I need other Dr's opinions and others experiences with natural medicine and vaccinations. I have heard the horror stories and the good stories about vaccinations.

Ryan

P.S.- My son is now 1 and has not been vaccinated and has not once had a cold or been sick. Most he has had is a fever and diaria (or however you spell that) and I attribute that to all of his teething.
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Elena Zagrebelnaya

From the site you posted
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If a child develops measles, chicken pox, whooping cough, mumps, rubella or any of the other common childhood infections, it is not because of germs, but because of the accumulated toxic waste within its body, a condition known as Toxaemia. It therefore stands to reason that the prevention of childhood infection is only possible by preventing the development of toxaemia, or in other words, by preserving or restoring the PHYSIOLOGICAL HEALTH of the body.
So if I inject someone who has not been vacinayed and has not been exposed to the measles virus they would not get measles? Could you please explain then why these illnesses are infectious?

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Old 25th November 2003, 12:48 PM
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Starburn,

Why don't you ask the author of the site about this? I thought he was accessible over internet.

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Elena Zagrebelnaya

The link to email the site does not appear to work. Since you posted the link I assumed you suported it. If this is the case perhaps you would like to answer the questions I have raised
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Well Starburn,
you are right to question the above statement.
it is not down to toxicaemia for the individual to become sick in a specific way.
but it is not the germs neccessarily either.
What it is we don't know, and for the tackling of disease-states with homeopathy , we don't need to know.
What can be observed is, that sometimes these diseases come in epidemic forms, sometimes in single cases, sometimes children being vaccinated against a certain type of disease get it anyway, and sometimes unvaccinated children don't get it.
What can be said is, that in general individuals who are weakened, or living in adverese conditions, or under a lot of stress seem to get sick easier, than robust individuals in an stressfree environment.
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Wow--that quote from that site is DEFINITELY not a reflection of my understanding of childhood diseases!!

Its another example of the big difference in medical paradigms evidenced between homeopathic and allopathic medical systems. I just don't buy the "toxicaemia" argument. It doesn't fit with the reality of those illnesses, and their function in humanity.

Anyway, Dr. Leela's suggestions about locating and using a good homeopath for long term care of all illnesses...chronic and acute...in your children is still the best way to go, if you want to choose alternatives to vaccination. Healthy, vital, capable children who can meet challenges on all levels and thrive as human beings eliminate the need for you to justify anything to anyone. If you decide against vaccinations, do your homework, find someone you can work with who is effective and trustworthy as a homeopath, and don't worry about what others think about your decision.

There are plenty of well researched books you can read which will help you decide your course of medical care, alternative to the vaccine programs you wish to avoid. Harris Coulter's A Shot in the Dark has some interesting information on the detrimental effects of specific vaccines; Vera Schreiber is another researcher who uses the vaccine manufacturer's own research to show the dangers of these substances--she's written a number of books on the subject and she also does a lot of public speaking on the topic.

I know Coulter's studied homeopathic medicine forever, and has studied allopathic medicine and medical history throughout his long life, as well: just because he's been able to earn a doctorate in homeopathy doesn't mean his research and work should be dismissed! Schreiber's scientific background has also led her to homeopathy, but, again, this is no reason to determine her work as "biased". When you consider that the "pro vaccine" literature is all produced by conventional medicine and vaccine manufacturers, how can it be considered "unbiased"?
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Hi Ryan

Congratulations on your little one. Give me a few days and I will post or email you links or information that may be helpful for you. In the meantime I know Dr. Mercola is against vaccination and his site is www.mercola.com you can type vaccine in his seacrh box and will find lots of info I am sure.
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