I see that Fat Troll has now quite adroitly edited his original post (above) to address David Johnson. He originally addressed his 30 November missive to David Kempson. Details!

If you had indeed read the second meta-analysis, you would have seen the authors accounted for publication bias, small sample size, etc. Maybe the editorial board of Lancet is pro-homeopathy?! Better let them know the truth!!

Interesting to se somebody who calls people nicknames take so much interest in those others using correct names .

Now about tests: The bottom line is that the untestability of homepathy is a myth. Anything that is supposed to have an effect on the real world is ultimately testable, and so is homeopathy. And we se that such tests have been done, lots of them.

So what have the results been? Some positive, some negative, some inconclusive. Many tests, especially those made by the homeopathic community, use scientifically unsatisfactory methods, or the conclusions made are not supported by the data (I have seen that a couple of times). There is a distinct correlation between methodology and results: The more correct methodology, the more negative results.

This leaves us with the following current conclusion: Homeopathy does not work, scientifically speaking, that is, the homeopathic medicines do not physically influence the body, and the "law of similars" cannot be established as a physical law.

Whether there is some other, paraphysical effect, that somehow eludes testing, is still debatable.

Hans

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Mr.Hans,

Do you want that I should mention millions of sites by 'Google Search' mentioning The Adverses of CMS Treatments & Medicatons, here also? I am bit tired, you may read there. Your informations have benifited them to pull some skin from hair but got only broken hair.

[ 03. December 2003, 10:36: Message edited by: kayveeh ]

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Yes, perhaps you should. My search on Google for that yielded zero hits.

What does CMS mean? I assume modern medicine.

However, the point is moot, since I never denied that modern medicine has side-effects. Since you put so much emphasis in numbers, should we talk about the millions of cases where modern treatments cured people?

The reason I get only broken hair is the strange selective vision of some people here.

Consider this snip from another post on this BB (emphasis added by me):

Yet the VERY SAME persons keep telling me that homeopathic provings are proof of the effect of homeopathic drugs. How one-eyed can you get?

Hans

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Disease & so symptoms can aggravate(progress), if not treated or treated with water.

" Those who deal in healing systems, should not comment on each other" to maintain secrecies & soberness. like: ' Those who lives in glass houses, should not through stones on each other' to maintain their houses.

[ 03. December 2003, 11:29: Message edited by: kayveeh ]

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Hehehe, you tell that to Hahnemann. Not that I agree, in fact the opposite. Since people's lives and health is at stake we all have a duty to be critical.

Hans

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May be in defence.

Mr.hans: Stop rolling

Kayveeh

[ 11. December 2003, 07:22: Message edited by: kayveeh ]

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I do not consider my actions here an act of trolling. I have all the time taken great care to state my intentions. I do not post off-topic in various threads. I do not start threads with hidden agendas.

--Like some people do , Kumar.

Hans

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Trolling means ' to cause to move round and round ''to fish by trailing a lure or baited hook from a moving boat'.
However trolling for some hard & unsolved aspect may not be called just trolling-it will be research i.e.search again & again-here & there.So let us do that.

[ 09. December 2003, 07:47: Message edited by: kayveeh ]

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