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Old 17th October 2003, 12:46 PM
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The scientific method is all there is to science. That's it. It's not "a" scientific method, there aren't alternative methods that give as reliable results - there is just the one approach that works.

If homeopathy cannot demonstrate results that support your hypothesis when tested using the scientific method (by anyone, I might add), then it's bunkum. End of story.

There is no evil alliance of like-minded drone scientists who set out to disprove anything they can, there is no single-bodied "science" establishment that wants to keep out the riff-raff, and there are no extenuating circumstances that justify disregarding logic for one problem and not others.

Most importantly - there is no problem so strange or unusual it cannot be broken down into smaller questions that are more easily investigated.
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Old 17th October 2003, 12:57 PM
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A Logical Principle

Consider a complicated system with a fault which cannot be located nor studied directly.

How can the fault be located and corrected?

The more complicated a system is, the more effects it often produces as a result of the fault. Also, the more effects there are, the more accurately the fault in the system can be targeted.

So, ironically, the fault in a very complicated system can be better targeted than a fault in a less complicated system.

Consider a sick person as being that complicated system with a fault (disease). If a substance can be found which produces effects (symptoms) in a healthy person which are identical to the symptoms produced by the sick person, then the substance becomes "logically associated" with the "cause of disease" in the sick person.

In practise, this "logical association" can be found to be a "physical association" as well, proved in a remarkable way:

If the substance which produces symptoms in a healthy person identical to those in the sick person, is now given to this sick person, it will express these identical symptoms. If the dose is adjusted such that the symptoms it induces are stronger than those expressed by the sickness, the disease which caused this sickness becomes removed, and normal healing processes resume, resulting in complete cure.

How is this to be interpreted?

1). The disease becomes removed or disengaged by the physically associated substance (derived through logical association), and normal management and resolution of the disease follows.

2). Therefore, with the successful resolution of disease, the "logical association" also had a "physical association"...the actual tissue affected by disease was targeted by the actions resulting from administration of the substance. But the tissue(s) affected may not necessarily be in one particular physical location of the body, but may be more diffuse. Yet, it is still targeted by the substance, because the physical entity was associated to the logical entity (pattern of symptoms), which represents the whole disease.

3). It is unnecessary to know, physically, what the fault causing the disease actually is, nor how the substance acts upon it, as the objective of targeting the disease and curing the person has been accomplished.

This lack of knowledge does, however, pose an apparent problem: the Scientific validation of "mode of action" of the substance. But, failure to establish the mode of action, is not in itself a reason for exclusion of this method from Science.

4). It is easy to perceive the disease as being the disease agent directly causing the disease, yet this is very rarely the case. The body has vast resources for combating disease agents, and many of these are activated with the "Immune Response" in a widespread cascade process designed to resolve the disease.

What has actually happened is that the response to this particular cause of disease revealed a flaw in these cascading processes, which cannot continue or complete their program of activities to resolve the disease.
The disease agent revealed a subtle failing in these disease management processes, but the threat the disease agent itself posed to the body was negligible.

The failure of disease management then results in a chain of many events (system in failure) which present externally as many symptoms. And, the pattern of these symptoms depends on where in the complicated processing of disease management that the cause exists.

The disease agent may have been eradicated by some other process before the symptom pattern we call disease appeared in the sick person, but the halted processing is still "hanging", and unaware of this.

It would be impossible to work back from the large number of presenting symptoms and effects which the disease agent caused, to the actual cause.

There seems to be a "Logical Principle" operating here, that could, in theory, be applied to all complicated systems.

It is about "Cause and Effect". A Substance produces exactly the same effects as some other cause in the body, which results in these effects. By bringing the "substance cause" and the "unknown cause" together in the body so that they are equal, it is like two unknowns on both sides of an equation where they can cancel out.

With this Logical Principle, it doesn't matter how complicated the system is, nor how complicated the "unknown cause" is, because of this cancellation. The substance, I propose, ACTUALLY ACTS ON the "unknown cause" (obstacle to cure).

Since it is impossible to work back from the symptoms to learn about the cause of the disease, we should look for other situations like this in Nature, or construct a model, to test and then prove that this Logical Principle applies to all Black-Box situations.

An example: Build an old-fashioned clockwork clock, deliberately leaving some of the cogs loose so they resonate and make a complex audible sound in operation. Analyse the sound emitted by the clock, and feed exactly the same sound back at the clock so that it just exceeds the emitted sound. Will this influence the workings of the clock. (Yes, that's just a resonance phenomenon, you may say.) Any other examples to demonstrate this Logical Principle? Is what the substance in the body does just resonance in all cases, then? NOPE? Maybe all situations of "manipulation of cause" in black boxes, in this "similar effects" way, by the Logical Principle involve resonance?

An area like this, if it existed, might be called "Cause and Effect Analysis". Looking for someone who might know something about it.

Tim
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