Hello all,

Homeopathic remedies & system are usually contradicted/discredited by scientific community on ground that, molecular/material presence can't be possible in higher than 12C or 24X potencies.According to the principals of chemistry, no molecule of original substance will remain after a dilution higher than Avogadro's number (6.023 x 10^23), which corresponds to homeopathic products designated 24X, 12C, or higher.

There is no theory in science which can be related to its energetic type effects/working/storing.

However, it looks to me that there can be possibility of molecular presence of active substances in all or most potencies.

Can you tell me accordingly about this possibility & if it is justified that, some molecules are present in every potencies, can then homeopathic remedies be considered as valid in science or not?

It looks that 'memory of water' was 'water carrying information/memory' of active substance was not wrong thought, but it might had experimented & tested differently. So there can be some mistake in doing the test--other than what was experimented.

Best wishes.

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not all is matter in this universe,99% is energy (homeopathy is an energy medicine)Like kinetic,prana,vital force,chi............
G Tyler

But how energy can be stored & recalled from remedies is bit ununderstood/unclear issue since long. I am just finding it otherwise.

Now can you tell;

Whether molecular/material presence of raw remedy substances is ever tested chemically or not in homeopathic remedies, if yes can you provide some referances to this effect?

Whether same OR different bottles/containers/equipments are used in preparing different potencies--esp. when one part out of 10/100 part is taken for next potency? Whether this one part of second potency is potentized in same bottle/equipment, in which first potency was prepared? What is origional recommendations for this & what is in practice?

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Homeopathic & Biochemic system existed because Drs.Hahnemann & Schuessler thought differently.
Successful people don't do different things, they do things differently..S.Kh.

According to present scientific knowledge, energy cannot be stored in remedies in any way that preserves any characteristics of the crude substance.

Since rinsing metods used extensively in industry and laboratories are essentially equal to potentizing (dilute, agitate, repeat), it has been empiricaly shown beyond any doubt that no chemical residue remains. Otherwise rinsing methods would not be efficient.

According to Hahnemann's original description, new containers are employed at each step. However, most modern manufacturers use the Korsakoff method, where the same container is re-used. Indeed it is just emptied, and it is assumed that appr. 1% residue is sticking to the glass. This is an extremely sloppy and irresponsible method to use, and we must suspect that such manufactureres don't really believe it matters what is in the remedies.

Hans

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Hello,

Can you give some referance in justification to "According to Hahnemann's original description, new containers are employed at each step", even after first few potencies below 12C/24X. Even so, mistakes, ignorances, oversights, misses, weaknesses can be there in every understanding & tellings.

Furthur, molecular presence can be there in every potency above 12C/24X, if molecule stick & embedded to the bottles/containers, equipments used for potentization & those can come out slowly, by applying force of potentization/triturating. If you paint any bottle inside, the molecules of that paint will leave slowly & can remain present above 12C/24X. You know Holi festival colours, Heena on hands, hair dyeing--colours so embedded by these, go very very slowly. Silica in glass of bottles, in triturating equipment can have some absorbing properties. But containers...etc.(atleast after some initial potencies) should be same. I feel that "memory of water" failed due to same container used on experiance but different on test. This should form science/trick of homeopathic working. Just check absorbed/embedded/coated molecules of active substances on inside the walls of bottles/containers & on equipment used for potentizing the remedies. Also check molecular presence, by practical testings, chemically (not on copy by avagdro law) og potencies above 12C/24X, by using same container/equipment as I told before.

Best wishes/luck for new experiance. May God help & forget.

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Homeopathic & Biochemic system existed because Drs.Hahnemann & Schuessler thought differently.
Successful people don't do different things, they do things differently..S.Kh.

Whether anyone have any idea, can molecules penertate in glass/pestle/mortar during initial potentisations? Silica has some absorbing properties & all these contains sufficient silica. Are there some pores in glass/pestle/mortar in which some molecule may be embedded?

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Homeopathic & Biochemic system existed because Drs.Hahnemann & Schuessler thought differently.
Successful people don't do different things, they do things differently..S.Kh.

Of course there are. Not only of the present remedy, but of whatever the tools have been used for during their whole existence. Purity is a relative thing. Filetered water is purer than tab water, destilled water is purer than filtered water, recombined water is purer than destilled water. But nothing is entirely pure.

Hans

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Remember (and I have punctually tested this personally) that homeopathic potencies are promptly annihilated by warmth. That is, reaching the water boiling temperature, or even several degrees below (like 80 degr. celsius) destroys any potency. Mentioned by many homeopaths. The pioneers used this to allow himself (in a period where pottery was expensive) to re-use flasks or potentize a different substance after having rinsed well the original one.

Mr. Hans,

Can you tell why this(warming) is practiced? IS to expand porosities of glass by heat unabling remedy's residue molecules to come out?

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Homeopathic & Biochemic system existed because Drs.Hahnemann & Schuessler thought differently.
Successful people don't do different things, they do things differently..S.Kh.

Kumar, as you have been told, there are no porosities in glass.

Hans

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