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When psychologists say, almost 85 % diseases are psychosomatic in nature then what is the need of homeopathic remedies.
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It is a widely accepted point of view that Psychologists took up the subject because they are psychologically disturbed .
Whilst I almost worship C.G.Jung I would doubt the pronouncements of any Psychological practitioner . Particularly any that were in favour of psycho-somatic drugs - they are undoubtedly crazed.
Again one must define terms- what is the mind?.
In my paper published in the Jnl of Alternative Medicine 1989[vol3;no 1] I mentioned that T.C.Lethbridge [ The Essential T.C .Lethbridge Routledge London 1980] - states that there are now many thinkers who hold that the brain is only a mechanism for censoring sensation. An idea that is gaining strength at the expense of those who think the brain and the mind are the same thing,
A pominent neurologist who is the Director of Neurosciences, J.M.Delgado , at the University of Sevilla . Is quoted in El Pais , 22/9/2004 Much of the investigation into the brain is not science , but literature [ fiction?] . Prof Delgado states that the brain is complicated, because there are distinct types of neurons , about whose function we have no idea . For only 3 or 4 neurons can we explain the function. Of the rest we will say that they coordinate, regulate, integrate. It is not physiology, it is not science. .... There are scientists who consider it to be a property of the nervous circuit of the cerebral cortex, but these are vague words. The thing about the cortex is that, since we do not know how it works, each one can assign to it the function that he likes.
So for me , the MIND is equivalent to the vital force that envelopes the body
and is the area that Hahnemann considered to be the area , from which arise all the diseases. They originate in the vital , non material , area and rise up to produce symptoms . Symptom that are NOT to be cured, but treated with homeopathic remedies that best match the constitution of the person .
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When psychologists say, almost 85 % diseases are psychosomatic in nature then what is the need of homeopathic remedies. These remedies almost cover 85 percent cases. Rest 15 % are beyond its circle. We cannot treat each and every disease with homeopathy or homeopathy has no answer for 15 % cases or 15 % do not respond against homeopathic remedies.
Now, whether it is 85% or something else is no doubt very debatable, but there is little doubt that many diseases are at least partly in the psychological realm.

Just look at the kid who falls, hurts a knee, and runs crying to mummy. Mummy just blows it, pats him on the head and says: "There, there, that's a big boy", and out he is playing again, most of the time. Does the knee hurt less now? Maybe, maybe not, but he shure FEELS it hurts much less.

Adults are not that different. Something hurts, you go to doctor, doctor examines you, says: "It is nothing serious, but here, take this medicine, and you'll soon feel fine." If we believe him, then we WILL feel fine. This is true for ANY modality, touch healing, homeopathy, placebo, modern medicine, you name it.



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Now, whether it is 85% or something else is no doubt very debatable, but there is little doubt that many diseases are at least partly in the psychological realm.

Just look at the kid who falls, hurts a knee, and runs crying to mummy. Mummy just blows it, pats him on the head and says: "There, there, that's a big boy", and out he is playing again, most of the time. Does the knee hurt less now? Maybe, maybe not, but he shure FEELS it hurts much less.

Adults are not that different. Something hurts, you go to doctor, doctor examines you, says: "It is nothing serious, but here, take this medicine, and you'll soon feel fine." If we believe him, then we WILL feel fine. This is true for ANY modality, touch healing, homeopathy, placebo, modern medicine, you name it.



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But the differance here is, if treatment is taken from doctors/modren medicines or other therapies healer, the treatments will be given in both cases but in first case lot of harash chemical will have to be unnecessay ingested.
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Kayveeh, so you claim that alternative modalities are of no effect, except placebo?

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No my reply don't indicate alike you are interpreting. It is at par to alopathic treatment except additional effects due to more chemicals in modern medicinces. Whatever can be cured by self healing & placebo, medicines/remedies can initiate & enhance the healing process bit early by toxic/natural means(eg. you beat a horse or to run OR you encourage him with love & natural food, horse will run in both cases but will collapse in first case early) but toxic means will ultimately harm & make those self healing & placebo means to collapse. In true sense medicines may interfere these processess or self immunity.
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No. That is nonsense. All medicines that work have side effects, but unless somebody makes a mistake, the benefits will outweigh them. You could be right in the cases where medicine is given for things that don't need medicine. But that would be true for any modality.

Your continued talk about harsh chemicals just shows your ignorance. After all, most modern medicines are chemicals that already exist in the body.

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QUOTE=MRC_Hans:No. That is nonsense. All medicines that work have side effects, but unless somebody makes a mistake, the benefits will outweigh them. You could be right in the cases where medicine is given for things that don't need medicine. But that would be true for any modality.

Mistakes can be more common in view of over-load & 'no problem' considerations. As indicated 85% figure hold some meaning for cases not needed the medicines. Other modalities may not be so harash chamicals as modern medicines.

Your continued talk about harsh chemicals just shows your ignorance. After all, most modern medicines are chemicals that already exist in the body.

It is big joke if you just don't consider supplements & replacements as pure allopathic medicines. If they exist in body, why so much side/adverse & toxic effects are always mentioned.

Just have a look:
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Heartburn drugs, such as the commonly prescribed Nexium or Prilosec in the United States, reduced stomach acid but allowed germs to multiply, explained head researcher Robert Laheij of Radboud University in Nijmegen, Netherlands, in a study published Wednesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association (news - web sites).
The study of some 365,000 people found the risk for pneumonia was twice as high in people using heartburn medication for three years than in people who had stopped the treatment.
Gastric acid in the stomach normally destroys disease-bearing bacteria, preventing infections. However, bacteria proliferate in the stomach of people who take anti-heartburn drugs, leading to infection in the lungs and respiratory tract, said the researchers.
Elderly people and asthma sufferers are most prone to
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...alth_pneumonia
Widely used heartburn and ulcer drugs such as Nexium, Pepcid and Prilosec can make people more susceptible to pneumonia, probably because they reduce germ-killing stomach acid, Dutch researchers found in a study of more than 300,000 patients.

The highest risks occurred with more powerful acid-fighting drugs called proton pump inhibitors, which are sold in the United States under such brand names as Nexium, Prevacid and Prilosec. Over nearly three years, users of these drugs faced almost double the risk of developing pneumonia compared with former users.

Users of another class of acid-fighting drugs that includes cimetidine and famotidine — sold in the United States as Tagamet and Pepcid — also faced an elevated risk.
http://msnbc.msn.com/ID/6337168/
Does it not justify my pH understandings. Some more aspects as I indicated alike digestion so absorption imbalances due to digestive pH imbalances shouls also come in future. I don't understand why so much learned don't understand simple & ancient based logics or knowledges--may be due to 'entitlements for current age/science' effects.
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