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Old 25th February 2007, 01:59 PM
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oh oh... Hi Wim. I am actually asking for a young 15 yr. old girl who just called me. Her goat has a very hard 1/2 of her udder (other side is fine)
The girl has not been able to get the flow going much at all and the doe has rejected the baby. I am not experienced at all with mastitis (and should be) so what should I do?

I have quite a few remedies here so I am hoping that I have what you might tell us.

thanks (in a hurry because I have not checked my own animals yet)
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Hello Carlene,

I need more info for proper prescribing....so please answer the following questions :

--How long (approx. ) has this doe been suffering from this problem ?

--Was she exposed to cold dry winds ?

--Does the udder show redness and swelling ?

--Is there obvious pain on palpation or evident pain on pressure ?

--Are her pupils dilated ?

--Is there oedema of the udder and surrounding tissues ?

--Is there relieve of pain/discomfort when you press the udder ?

--Is the doe lying down ?

--Was there any injury to the mammary tissue ?

--Was there a prolonged or difficult kidding ?

--Are there any large clots in the milk or small clots in mid-lactation ?

--Is the skin hot ?

--Is there any strerile udder secretion ?

--Is there any lumpy induration of the udder giving it a lopsided appearance ?

Don`t give any remedies yet......please answer the questions a.s.a.p.first........then I`ll give prescription. (You`ll most likely need Phytolacca 30c and Urtica urens 200c)

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--How long (approx. ) has this doe been suffering from this problem ? SINCE KIDDING YESTERDAY

--Was she exposed to cold dry winds ? YES

--Does the udder show redness and swelling ? PINK

--Is there obvious pain on palpation or evident pain on pressure ? YES

--Are her pupils dilated ? DON’T KNOW BUT DON’T THINK SO

--Is there oedema of the udder and surrounding tissues ? YES SPREADING

--Is there relieve of pain/discomfort when you press the udder ? THINK SO

--Is the doe lying down ? NO , UP AND ABOUT

--Was there any injury to the mammary tissue ? NO

--Was there a prolonged or difficult kidding ? NO FAST

--Are there any large clots in the milk or small clots in mid-lactation ? (SHE JUST KIDDED YESTERDAY AND CLOTS AND OTHER SIDE IS GOOD)

--Is the skin hot ? YES

--Is there any strerile udder secretion ? WHEN SHE GOT MILK OUT OF THE QUARTER (JUST ABOUT A TSP. IN ALL, IT LOOKED NORMAL)

--Is there any lumpy induration of the udder giving it a lopsided appearance ? NO

Don`t give any remedies yet......please answer the questions a.s.a.p.first........then I`ll give prescription. (You`ll most likely need Phytolacca 30c and Urtica urens 200c)

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OK Carlene

Give Belladonna 1M, one dose every hour for 4 doses.

If you haven`t got this potency give Belladonna 30c, one dose every 2 hours up to 6 doses. Thereafter reduce to 3 times daily with improvement.

Keep me posted because another remedy that matches the then presenting symptoms may be necessary.

To stimulate the milk secretion also give : Urtica urens 200c, twice daily for 3 days.

Keep 10-15 minutes or so between giving the 2 remedies. Please follow prescription strictly !

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Hi Wim

I am bedraggled here. The people are poor and don't have resources and I had to make some decisions. I did the best I could and they came here for me to give them "something " to help.
Here is what I did which isn't what you said (sorry we missed I hope I did not botch the whole thing).

I told them to use peppermint massage along with an herbal salve I had plus use some colloidal silver in the massage water.

I gave them Hepar Sulph 200c and told them to give one dose a day for up to 7 days plus I gave them Aconite 6 c to give 4 times today only.
??????? did I mess everything up...? I feel sad that I miss connected with you.
sorry
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Carlene.....everybody knows I always check the forums several times a day (also on Saturdays and Sundays), also because I`m moderator here for several forums......it took only 26 minutes (!!!)to give you this last prescription (see 2 previous posts).....this doesn`t happen on any forum in the whole world !.....you didn`t follow the Pulsatilla prescription correctly for the other doe either.....so I just wonder why you do this and didn`t ask here first. You can`t expect me to pick up the pieces and moreover, please bear in mind homeopathic remedies are powerful medicines. In addition, peppermint often antidotes remedies ! Hepar sulph. in low and high potency have completely opposite actions ! For goats Hepar sulph.12c, if indicated, is usually prescribed in this situation. Aconitum is only prescribed in the early acute stages in 10M or 10MK potency.

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Yes I did it very wrong on the little girl's doe...

but on the other doe, it was just me being confused. I meant to do exactly as you said.
Please forgive me, Wim. I will do better from now on.

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We are about to kid today and the little girl had called in the middle of my chores and I was trying to get my "girls" comfortable and get on the internet with you at the same time... They a boy who is in jail called and I had to deal with that... (he is very needy and I am sending him books).

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OK Carlene......I hope you`ll understand it`s very disappointing if people don`t follow prescriptions correctly, but moreover, this may cause unnecessary prolonged suffering or incorrect treatment of animals.

I`m always extremely busy on and outside the forum with many (shelter) animal and human cases and I simply can`t afford to waste too much time.

Sometimes my daughter keeps an eye on the forum. She is a qualified hom. professional as well and also a qualified teacher of English etc.

Hepar often antidotes Belladonna, but you should start the Belladonna anyway.

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Dear Wim:
I truly am so sorry that I messed up... I just got confused and there really is no excuse. I ask your forgiveness.

Will you still help me?

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