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Old 31st December 2006, 11:40 AM
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Default Chief complaint of goldfish ! Case taking !

Constitutional case taking of a goldfish in distress :

Good morning, Sir !

Good morning, Fish !

Fish ?.....Sorry to say this, but I`m Goldie the Goldfish...not just any fish !

Sorry Goldie....

Well....OK....never mind...

What can I do for you Goldie....that is....homeopathically speaking....

I badly need homeopathic treatment, Sir !

What is your chief complaint ?

Stress......much stress !

OK.....I`ll ask you some questions to find out the remedy you need...

Do you sometimes have white spots all over your body and your fins caused by some nasty parasite ?

No.....never.....

Great...then you don`t suffer from Ich...also called White Spots...

Do you suffer from excess slime over your body caused by a protozoon which is a small one-celled parasite ?

No...No....that sounds really nasty....my goodness !

OK....then you don`t suffer from Slime disease....

Do you suffer from any gill and/or fin damage caused by a trematode worm ?

No....sorry I can`t oblige.....

Fine....then you don`t suffer from Fluke infestation.....

Then do you perhaps suffer from a poor condition accompanied by wounds caused by parasites or by other fish biting you ?

No....not at all !

Excellent !....then you don`t suffer from Fin Rot....

Did you remove anything from your body before you came to see me ? I mean a sort of cotton wool on your body possibly accompanied by skin damage.

No....most definitely not, Sir !

Super !.....then you don`t suffer from Fungus....

Did you ever have warty-looking lesions on your skin caused by a viral infection ?

Good lord NO !

Magnificent !.....then you don`t suffer from Lymphocytosis...

OK...one last question now because I think I already know your remedy

That would be great, Sir !

Do you suffer from abdominal enlargement, protruding of the eyeballs (exophtalmia) or ulcerative granulomas ?

Excuse me...but what are ulcerative granulomas ?

They are lumpy swellings on the body surface.

No.....none of these symptoms apply to me....

Then congratulations Goldie.....because you`re not suffering from Tuberculosis, which is a so called Zoonosis, i.e. transmissable to humans.

Now tell me Goldie....what is your actual chief complaint ?

Well.....frankly speaking I can`t watch television anymore and I miss the Animal Planet I used to watch all the time.....

But what is the cause of this Goldie.....do you think ?

Well....I`ve got this nasty film over my eyes which prevents me from watching the telly properly....

You stupid fish......you should have said so right from the start......have a look at the topic Tropical Fish on this vet. forum and you`ll know what to tell your boss !

Do I have to pay you now, Sir ?

No Goldie....that won`t be necessary.....advice/prescriptions given on this forum are all free of charge and moreover you swim....sorry you live in a poor country and poor people and animals should always get free treatments !

Good luck Goldie !

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Last year a fellow homeopathy enthusiast asked me for suggestions about how to treat one of his tropical fish which was exhibiting rather bizarre behavior. I don't recall all the details but it was very clear from what he said that the winning rubrics would probably be based on the fish's mental state. And yet there may be no comparable human rubric if it is the fish's group or schooling mentality that is at issue (unlike cats and dogs which are more like humans so more likely to exhibit comparable symptoms). It was an interesting exercise to ponder at the time and I was amazed at how well he understood his fish. The fish did recover as I recall, but based on a more allopathic approach.
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Yes, Dillweed, you`re right......prescribing looks indeed like allopathic prescribing or perhaps clinical prescribing on one or two keynotes only and far more research should be done to enable homeopaths to cure more disorders in fish.

It won`t be easy either to prescribe constitutionally on fish constitutional manifestations. Perhaps your friend has established a good feel for these manifestations without actually realizing this ?

I`m afraid we`ll have to wait a long time before more research will be done and (some) treatments will still have to be done by local/pathological methods only (and perhaps by using particular homeopathic nosodes ?)

So many of these diseases/conditions will need to be diagnosed by a vet or homeopath with sufficient knowledge of fish diseases and for the time being we can`t do without all conventional treatments. Homeopathic remedies (where suitable) may be used along with, or in some cases, instead of allopathic medicine.

The diseases and symptoms mentioned in the jocular Goldie post are all real diseases and symptoms.

As for pet animals etc. observation of an animal`s behaviour and how it reacts to any given situation, to other animals or people, to noise etc. will in some measure compensate for the lack of communication by speech. It`s sometomes possible to imagine how an animal is feeling when it has lost a companion or when it is subjected to forced separation from the owner or when it suffers from psychological traume caused by an operation etc.

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Addition for Dillweed......I`m a classical and clinical prescriber and it`s often possible for me to prescribe for animals on a few symptoms/keynotes only....for example....if a budgerigar is falling off his perch all the time and walking in circles round the bottom of its cage and there are no other symptoms then the remedy is most likely Agarius musc. 30c or 30k.

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I see!--we can prescribe successfully for human being for each and every disease entirely on key symptoms without going into detail.We can prescribe on the name of disease.We can prescribe on pathology.We can prescribe on local symptoms.Homeopathic literature is full of these examples.
Allopath most of the time prescribe homeopathic medicines on the name of diseases and they are also successful.We must not ignore any aspect of homeopathy.No doubt classical homeopathy is the best but not the only one.Hope you agree.

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Yes, sajjad....I agree....that`s why I`m not only a classical but also a clinical prescriber....esp. for animals clinical prescribing is possible in many cases which I proved by writing thousands of posts on different forums.

I`m also a phytotherapeutic prescriber as well and perhaps in the near future I`ll explain how mother tinctures and homeopathic gemmo/gemmae remedies are exactly made.

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