My obese male cat hasn't been well lately, loss appetite & listless. 22lbs. down to 17lbs.in past two mos. Last week blood in urine, began Clavamox 7/1/03, urine clear but less appetite, eating 1tsp. babyfood per day. On diet all life, yet obese. Hips stiff & weak. Just lost companion, Willee, last month. Vet says white blood ct. 4x elevated @ 80. Xrays & other exams show gums & organs appear healthy. Suspects bone marrow cancer. Gave stronger antibiotic shot & pills now. Anything to help? It's hard to be going thru this again after only 3 wks. since Willee's passing; after nursing him around the clock for last four months.

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Hi Lyndee,
When it rains it pours! Bone marrow cancer to me seems a far leap at this point so I wouldn't throw in the towel just yet. When infection is present in the body, the body will make more WBC to counter the infection. Clavamox can sometimes really depress the appetite so its good that he is no longer on this antibiotic. His organ function is good right now, but when ever obese cats loss weight in such a dramatic fashion it can cause a condition called fatty liver so its important that providing he is not vomiting that you force feed him small meals throughout the day. I tend to stay away from treating allopathically and homeopathically at the same time. The allopathic meds could be changing or supressing symptoms that might be key to finding the correct remedy for the cat. I do understand relunctance to go alone with homeopathy when you are not sure what is going on or when the condition might be life-threatening (only because I am not a good enough at homeopathy). Perhaps Dr. Leela will have some suggestions for you. I assume the cat is probably pale and dehydrated? What is the stool like? When was the urine last tested? Does the cat seem depressed? Do you think the stress of losing his companion has brought about the illness? Any habits that have changed? Is he drinking, if so a lot or a little? Is he sleeping more or restless? Does he seem chilly or heated? His hips and lower extremities are stiff, could this be pain from the bladder? Sometimes bladder stones etc can not be detected through x-ray or urinalisis, when the urine contained blood, were there any clots or larger plugs discharged?

His liver tests were good. We have always been concerned with the fatty liver possibility or diabetes. Over the years I have treated him successfully with a combo of PHOS,ARS & CARB-V under a homeo-vet care. He used to have a depraved appetite(first 11 yrs). When Willee first got sick Yello's appetite went down, I was so focused on Wille - guess I lost sight of Yello. Last year he had an aural hematoma (left ear) & blood work, all good. His new antibi is Baytril 22.7. Last nite I tried to give it crushed & pasty and he began to gag up med with long strings of mucus.Today I just pilled him & he kept down.He drinks water and seems hungrier since yesterday, I am offering him food all day. He's liking salmon & cream. Didn't have urine tested. I am beginning to feel his spine, yet he has fat hanging down from his body. He is not pale or dehydrated. Willee's last month other cats ignored him completely. We still have two females in house w/ Yello, 2yr. old really likes to play with him, so I don't think he's lonely now, a bit grouchy. I don't want to give up.

[ 09. July 2003, 21:16: Message edited by: Lyndee DeMeo ]

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Hi Lyndee,
Cats do not need to have anything "wrong" with their livers for fatty liver to occur; just make sure he is eating and it won't have a chance to develope and further complicate his case. What has he been treated for homeopathically in the past? If the stmptoms change, so will most likely the prescription. I'm glad his appetite has increased. When did the mucus start, are there upper respiratory symptoms? Try to give the pill whole, most antibiotics are quite bitter and will promote gagging (hence they are coated), so if you need to crush the pill mix it well in some strongly flavoured food. The emaciation is normal as emaciation goes, what about his mucle mass, do you notice "wasting"? Not sure if Dr. Leela has had a chance to see your post, she may have some suggestions.

Hi Lyndee, I think a good "consitutional" will help him a great deal rather than piece meal prescribing.

So do post a complete case. Kkrista with her newly acquired case taking skills and analysis will do a great job. Then I can hopefully suggest a remedy when I'm back.
All the best.
doctorleela

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I just typed history for an hour & lost it, shorter version: born spring 1990 to crazy neighbors who thought he was possessed because he looked at things that weren't there, chased him with a broom, he defecated walls & ran out of house @ 7 mos. We took over, he was lost for 5 wks. came back very thin. Then 1991 fall his companion died of FIP. Yello began to overeat & cry for food, went up to 22 lbs.
New female started to bully him.
1994- V-shaped hair loss on lower back Graph30 & Sulp30 >
1995- trouble w/ back legs, pain, blood in urine antibiotic & Canth200>
1996- < hair-loss back CalcC30 Lyc30 & CalcPh30
1997- Ig.1M, no imp
1998- starts chronic vomiting of foam & food soon after eating NV12 & Puls12 seem to help
12/1) hips hurt Verat 30 > , voice hoarse
1999- still periods of lost voice & appetite with vomiting NV & Puls
2000- pain in hips Canth200>
2001- 4/7) animal bite, l. shoulder, Ledum, rescue, Hep.S < listless, heavy breath, angry, no thirst Antirobe for three weeks. < 5/25, scabby wound & hot, hoarse, Clavamox
8/22) << vomits, start mix which helps: Ph15, ArsA15 & CarbV30, I'll call it PAC-V
Over the next couple of years he's had what vet calls acid reflux, so he's been on endosorb & reglan before meals, then when >> I lay off, also used PAC-V mix a lot, seems to help.
2003- March, other cat's very sick, been neglecting Yello. Yello cries & sleeps a lot, hoarse voice. Willee dies 6/9 - by 7/1) Yello's << barely eating, hoarse & listless. Very aggitated @ vets, pees bloody, start Clavamox.
Back to vet on valium on 7/8) X-rays & bloodwork show white ct. 4x high @ 80, vet says all else looks good, suspects bone marrow cancer. Starts Baytril22.7 antibi 1.5 pills 1x day. He has lost voice, will eat very little and pain in hips seems better. He doesn't seem in pain now, urinary infection must have been the cause of pain in hips before. Little appetite, bit more active, follows me to bathroom and wants petting. So he's had a history of obesity, urinary probs, hips hurt, lameness in back legs, digestive disturbances, oversensitivity, hoarseness now loss of voice. I'm hoping for a constitutional to help him.

[ 15. July 2003, 06:44: Message edited by: Lyndee DeMeo ]

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HI Lyndee,
Thats a good medical history record. But we'll need a homeopathic history.
Maybe if you check the records, there have been quesitons posted by either GPM or Kkrista to get homeopathic info for pet cases.
Then maybe we could help with a remedy.
thanks,
doctorleela

PS; GPM/Kkrista, maybe one could prepare a Questionanire for these pet cases and have that on a permanent thread as well? Kkrista, maybe you would know about that?
Thanks.

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Yello had second series of bloodwork and results were improved. Yet he is still listless, hoarse and has no appetite. Drinking water; seeks cool, dark places to be alone. Lays in front of water dish for a long time, this doesn't seem good. Vet just gave him tetracycline, this will be the third antibiotic he's on.

[ 19. July 2003, 05:41: Message edited by: Lyndee DeMeo ]

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I guess there's no hope for this poor mancat. He's now losing power in his hind legs. Will barely lick any food. He peed a huge, dark pee on floor yesterday. In the past days I've tried:
Ars., Canth., N.V. & Puls.
I added x-tra vit-C & vit-E & acidophilus (f/ antibiotic)
I am not seeing any improvement, rapid weakening.
This is so hard because I just did this life sustaining thing with my "Willee" cat.
How & when do you know to give up?

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Lyndee,
I'm sorry.

I simply cannot make a prescription on the info you've provided.
I think somewhere in the archives, there is are a set of questions provided.

If you want a contitutional remedy, you'll need to give me a homeopathic history. A good consitutional similimum can work wonders even in this stage. Vital parameters remain functional till the end.
These single symptom prescriptions are of help.

All the best,
doctorleela

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