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Old 23rd March 2003, 09:13 PM
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Three weeks ago my 11yr. old cat had his colon removed after yrs. of fighting mega-colon (w/homeo). Went well, came home and next day no appetite, day after vomiting. Went back into hospital for another week on IV total nutrition, resting pancreas. He's been back home two weeks and is making very slow progress. He takes PHOS15c 3x-day and IRIS VERS6c 3x-day. He is now (past week) only vomiting once a day, morning bile. Vomiting occurs after he strains for a drippy diarrea, but only the morning poop. This occurs even thought I get up middle of nite and feed him. I am adding acidophilus and slippery elm to a mush of science diet a/d & chicken broth. I force about 40cc of this on him a day. He eats 4-5 x-day on his own, but just a biteful.
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Hi Lyndee,

I think Phos is a good choice all around for even the sympotms you mention.

SO I can only suggest a couple of adjustments.

Is the IRis really indicated? I suppose it was given as a specific (pancreas?). But it may be persisting this symptom and hampering improvement.

Secondly, once you do that, you could probably keep a watch on excessive repetition of he Phos as well. You could probably reduce this to 15 C plussed daily morning and taper it off as improvement takes place.
Repetition does not mean quicker improvement, because actually we're trying to help the body heal itself.

ALso dose of Arnica goes a long way in helping recover from surgery.

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Old 24th March 2003, 12:54 PM
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Lyndee,

Very sorry to read about your cat's problem. Experienced homeopath(s)posting here will be better able to offer advice than I. Onebabykitty visits here and she has experience with the surgery, so may be able to offer some good input, also.

Are the remedies and the amount of dosing prescribed by a homeopathic vet? Has your kitty been dosed as you mention for two weeks, since surgery?

May I ask, if so, who that vet might be? (My email is not working....most of my stupid MSN service is not working, so if you could send me a private message through this BB, I'd appreciate it. Not just being nibby but I have no listing for a homeopathic vet in Delaware, other than one in the Dover area who retired some time ago. Perhaps you travel? To Maryland? Reason for asking is I like to keep track of prescribing methods of "homeopathic vets" who might be close enough to actually see in person.)

Just checked your profile and you have been a memeber of this BB longer than almost anyone here!
I was once an antiques dealer, too. Once the house was filled, storage barns filled and ran out of steam, called a halt to it all. Antiques dealers are really just Pac Rats.

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Old 25th March 2003, 06:18 PM
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My cat improved for 10 days, the last six quite a bit, eating 6x 9spoonful0 day on own. Then Dr.Loops suggested yesterday that I give a dose of PHOS200c, within minutes he was restless and pacing. Wanting food but unable to eat. Straining for B/M unable. Then violently vmiting bile. Then for the first time B/M out of litter, barely got out of bed in time and then another immediate vomit. Then stong incessant purring and weak. So I gave him Iris V 6 and it seemed to settle him down. This is so distressing because it seems that in a couple of hours we lost all the progress of the previous ten days. Any suggests? Yes I can take cat to MD, my old Homeo Dr.Howie (in DEL)now only does people now. HELP
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I think that's an aggravation to the dose of 200. HOpefully it should pass off, give it a little time. IF it takes too long, a dose of Nux Vomica 6 should help her out.

Like I said, she probably just needs a couple doses of Phos here and there now to help her along. SO much of remedy is just not required.
AFter 10 days, I would think she was getting too much remedy and was aggravating slightly (which were the symptoms you noticed), but not deteriorating.
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Hi Lyndee,

I am so sorry about your cats’ problems. What is his name?

My sympathy goes out to you and the cat. I know how heart wrenching this situation has been for both of you. Obviously you love him very much, you sound like a dedicated and loving guardian. My thoughts are with you guys.
I have no professional input but will give you what I have found through my experience with SunShine.

When I first saw your post I tried to find my old notes on SunShine. I am unable to find the “organized” case since there have been 2 moves and hard drive crashes. I do remember that SunShine had a brief problem a couple of weeks or so after his surgery which was treated homeopathically and he has been doing very well for the last 2 years now with only a few problems occasionally.

I would STRONGLY suggest you stop the feeding of the Science Diet. I know the last time I checked they used ethoxyquin, which you may or may not know, is an insecticide. It is believed to cause liver and kidney dis-ease, cancer, immune dis-eases, skin problems and hair loss, gross birth deformities and thyroid problems.
I don’t recall if you are feeding kibble or tinned but I would suggest if you are feeding a commercial diet to use tinned as the dry is so much harder to digest.

If you are able, I would suggest you transition him to raw food. There is loads of information on food (as opposed to diet) that you can easily prepare at home. There are also a few places that you can order pre-prepared raw frozen food.

I can tell you that SunShine does very well on his raw food and cannot tolerate any commercial diet. I have tried most all of the premium, natural diets on the market with him (for the times I was out of raw food for some reason) and he gets digestive problems immediately, including nausea, diarrhea with constipation. He has been on raw food for a little over 2 years now and will not touch commercial unless he is very, very hungry.
He was on Science Diet when I first got him and had been for several years. I am highly suspect of the ethoxyquin contributing to his mega-colon as it is used to destroy the elasticity of rubber rendering it no longer pliable. (Just my unfounded opinion)

I believe that a surgically managed mega-colon cat needs digestive enzymes even more than the average one. Raw food is so much easier to digest, actually making the nutrition bio-available. If raw food is not a viable option for you I would suggest adding digestive enzymes to the commercial diet.

I would also suggest you might add some electrolytes to the water. A good recipe I have used is:
1 quart clean Water (no chlorine or fluoride)
1 Tbsp. Sugar or honey
1 tsp. Common table salt
Mix well and store unused portion in refrigerator, as it will turn mouldy if left at room temperature for very long

I don’t understand why he is receiving slippery elm; would you please clarify why that is being given.

I think Dr. Leela is one of the best and I am so glad she has responded to your post. I have lots of respect for that lady and trust her advice.

If there is anything I can help you with I will be more than happy to, feel free to message me.

Warm Smiles,
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Glad you have gotten such good advice!

I can't believe Dr. Howie gave up his vet practice to become a *human* homeopath! It ought to be against the law. (smile, but really it should) Last I talked with him he only said he was retiring from vet practice. Hrummph.

Did you contact Dr. (Charles, I guess?) Loops re reaction to the Phos 200? Was it he that prescribed originally, such frequent dosing?
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Slippery Elm is a herbal supplement used to sooth the intestinal tract. It can be extremely helpful with "sore" conditions, after much diarrhea etc. Should be mixed into the food.

Science Diet has stopped using ethoxyquin in its major mixes (it is not used in A/D which is their canned, vet diet; AKA: anorexic diet; used both for dogs and cats) although I have still found it in their dog and cat treats.

I had a conversation with a vet once who was trying to get me to feed SD product. I said no way, ethoxyquin, to which the reply was "only a small, legal amount"!!! It seems that it is illegal to add it to "human food", but a small amount is still legal to be found in pet food!

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Old 26th March 2003, 01:08 AM
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His name is Willee, he has been on a raw food diet for ten years, since he first developed the Mega-colon (from small fracture in hip when hit by car @ age one). We have postponed this radical surgery for 10 yrs due to good diet + homeopathy and finally in the last 1.5 year I had to resort to propusid and enemas every 3 to 7 weeks. Nothing was working anymore and he was starving to death. He had lost 35% of his body weight before surgery, but it went well. Then 3 days after he developed pancreatitus and went down to half his original body weight during that week back in hospital on IV total nutrition. So he really didn't eat for two weeks and it's been hard getting him back. I prepared him for the surgery with NV, Gels & Arn, alternating daily before and after surgery. His surgery has healed and I have been with him almost 24hrs a day since bringing him home on 3/14. I have never fed my cats science diet, and am only using this a/d because it was recommended by vet for ease of digestion, he will not eat it on his own. All he really will take on his own is turkey baby food and he wants dry (Royal Canin- sensitive stomach)
I want to encourage him to eat on his own and have made him boiled chicken w/ broth and boiled salmon w/ broth, which he no longer wants. He peps up after subcutaneous fluid. He is taking Reglan(metoclopramide syrup)to contol his nausea and acid in stomach. His mood and appetite improve after IrisV-6c and it seemed to stop his violent vomiting after the PHOS200c, so I am afraid to stop it. He loves to lay in the sun and seeks heat, I have kept a hot pack available to him 24hrs a day since he's been home and he usually chooses to stay on it. He has always wanted to eat paper since he developed mega-colon. And in past couple of years he often seems to be trying to mate with my other male cat; which he even does now occasionally during recuperation. So I have really exhausted myself physically and mentally. I appreciate all your sugestions and support.
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Lyndee, Willee is a very lucky guy.
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