Dr. Leela or GPM;
I have 3 cats who may have been exposed to the corona virus which can cause FIP. Exposure was probably 1 month back. All 3 are preadopted but need to be spayed and neutered before they go. We have found in our rescue that surgical stress appears to heighten the risk of FIP developement and we prefer to wait at least 3 months before doing any sx. My question is whether or not there may be something I can give them before the sx to lesson the effects of the anastetic. Thanks

Hi Krista,
Dr. Leela would be the one to answer your question.

Quick search:
Generalities; COMPLAINTS, from; Anaesthetic vapors, antidote (5) : 2acet-ac., am-caust., aml-n., hep., phos.
E; Emergency; SURGERY, disorders, from; anesthesia, problems from (8) : 3Phos., 2acet-ac., 2carb-v., 2chlf., am-c., am-caust., aml-n., hep.
T; Toxicity; ANESTHESIA; ailments, from (9) : 3Phos., 2acet-ac., 2carb-v., 2chlf., am-c., am-caust., aml-n., hep., ph-ac.
There are other remedies, of course, including Arn, in subrubrics.

Found nothing (doesn't mean not there, just didn't see it) for pre-surgery use of anesthetics to reduce possibility of activating latent psora, which surgery can and does do.

Would this be a case for using (prophylactic) a nosode specific to the disease possibly exposed to, prior to anesthesia?

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Hi GPM nd Kkrista,

I think the only sensible remedy pre-surgery is Arnica.
Phos is famed for any post surgery anaesthetic complications.
I think also for the present, as GPM suggested, a nosode prepared from the virus given now in singel dose would be a good prophylactic, something ike what we'd do in humans in a GEnus epidemicus.

HOpe this helps!
Doctorleela

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Thanks for the relpies guys! I'll look into a nosode but I don't believe I will find one (unless I give them canine corona and hope it will cover?). Sounds like at the very least I should give Arnica before sx and phos directly afterwards. I'll check and see what nosodes are available. Thanks again!

Krista,
Would it be appropriate to give the FIP nosode if exposure to cornona can lead FIP? Did the cats develop any symptoms at all from corona exposure?

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gpm,
Szoki sent me a website of a company that sells a lot of nosodes and I just found out there is a nosode for FIP. I'm trying to get more information on it though because I'm a little "stumped" as to how they would have developed it when we are not even sure of how the disease occurs etc. The cats had diarhea and inflamed eyes as major symptoms in an upper respiratory virus they went through. This is why I suspect it may have been the corona virus that was at the root of the URD. We can not afford to test everyone one for exposure with these symptoms so usually we assume the exposure has taken place and we try to "sit" on them for 3 months to make sure that if corona was present, the body has fully kicked it. However we are very full, all 3 of these cats have been adopted and I am under some pressure to neuter/spay them to make room for new arrivals. The new owners have other cats and are not preparred to bring unaltered cats into the home. (the boys really smell anyway and the female is obnoxious because she keeps going in and out of heat!). I have requested further info on the FIP nosode so hopefully I can figure this out. Right now I am more inclined to give Arn before and then phos after sx. Do you have any info or experience on this nosode gpm?
PS I'm not entirely convinced they have been in contact with corona (diarhea lasted a little too long in the males and the female only had eye inflamation)or I wouldn't even be discussing this (I would just hold off) but its a bad time of year and perhaps I'm just getting paraniod!

gpm,
I just heard back from this company who wrote that they obtained a sample from the late Dr. MacLoed in the 1980's and they know nothing about it???? yikes! You are familiar with his work are you not?

Krista,
I have Panluk and FIV nosodes but honestly have never used them. You might want to give Newton Labs in Georgia (770-922-2644) a call, as they have a line of animal nosodes marketed under the name Similia. Ask to speak to the pharmacist for advice. They are usually pretty nice about helping out. Keep in mind they are not necessarily what would be called classical since they, like many homeopathic pharmacies, make a lot of combination remedies.

Dr. Leela would be the one to advise but my thought is, if the cats showed symptoms after exposure and those symptoms were resolved with proper homeopathy, you may have reduced or eliminated the potential progression to develop FIP, that might occur in either an untreated case or one that had been treated (suppressed) allopathically. I may not be necessary to treat with a nosode now..............?

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Thanks for the info gpm, I will try to call them next week if for no other reason that to establish whether or not the FIP nosodes would be at all helpful in prevention or in the treatment of FIP. These cats were treated allopathically for secondary bacterial infections but hopefully they kicked the virus out on their own.