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Old 9th October 2001, 09:27 PM
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I have a two year old Black Lab/Border collie mix who has what appears to be ulcers throughout the vaginal area. There is a clear seeping fluid from some of them. Sometimes there is a black dried crusty matter in the area and its reddened throughout. It doesn't seem to be bothering her much. She occasionally licks the area. Her appetite is normal. She always has been a big drinker. She gets skin allergies in the fall...just itchy all over but these ulcers appear to be limited to the vaginal area only. She is a jealous dog and really not that friendly to strangers. Kind of shy and fearful as well. Not a barker. Not hyper either. Do you have any suggestions as to what to use? Any suggestions appreciated.
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Dessie, We'll need a little more information thatn that.

Could you detect a cause for these "ulcers " to develop?

Could you describe them a little more, shpe size coulur, pain, sensitivity, etc

What about her food desires and aversions?

Explain this "jealous" nature of hres and the "shyness" that you mention.

Any other major problem in the past.

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The ulcers are different sizes but somewhat raised. Some are very small like a small raised pimple and a few are about 1/4 inch in circumference all quite red looking but a few with a whitish ring. The smaller ones are just outside the vaginal area and the larger ones on the vagina area itself. They look moist and wet looking and then all around the area is the black crusty looking stuff. She doesn't really like me checking her and I haven't touched them to see if she's sensitive. I did try spraying them with a solution of water/grapefruit seed extract and she didn't like that at all. Licked it all off. I have no idea what caused them or really how long she had them. I was just checking her for fleas last week on her belly and noticed this. BTW, she doesn't have any fleas. Last fall she had really bad skin allergies pulling at herself and taking out big chunks of hair. I know you guys don't like this but I have her on Bi Yan Pian...a Chinese patented medicine for allergies and she isn't doing any of that other stuff this year. She was just miserable last year..miserable. I didn't want to take her to my vet b/c he would have put her on worse stuff. He's not holistic/homeopathic in any way, shape, or form. The only other major health problem she has had is about a year or year and half ago she had a staph infection on her muzzle and of course the vet put her on antibiotics. She had these large hard bumps on her face. Not red..just large bumpy and strange looking. It went away temporarily and came back within a few weeks. So I put her on grapefruit seed extract and that did take care of it. I couldn't afford to take her back to the vet. This summer she had an intestinal flu that was going around in the area. Doggie diahrrea mostly. Both my dogs had this. Again the antibiotics given didn't work a bit and I used natural means to get rid of it.

I have her on an all natural dry dog food and I do feed her some table food, vegies, gravies etc..whatever we may be having. She eats well but doesn't wolf her food down. She isn't particular about food and eats most everything I offer. She drinks a good bit of water when she does drink. She's got lots of energy and is a runner. She doesn't like strangers coming to the house and will bark and the hair goes up on her back. She's afraid of the vet and must be muzzled more due to fear of them and backing away than agression.

As far as jealousy..for instance when my husband comes home from work...I let her out the door and also I have a smaller older dog and they both go running and Midnight (the dog with the ulcers) tries to cut the other one off. She doens't want her to get to him and if we pay any attention to the other dog or bird..Midnight always tries to cut in for attention and she gets plenty anyways. If our neighbor's dog comes over...they used to play together as pups..now she beats the "poop" out of her and is really quite unnice to her old playmate.

She's shy and afraid of some people too. When we went on vacation and the neighbor kids were taking care of her..she was afraid of the boys. Ran into the cornfield. Got to the point they couldn't come to the house..only the girls could come to take care of her. If we yell at each other, she runs upstairs to the bedroom. Can't stand that. Her father who also lived around here was also very shy when we first met him but he outgrew it. Always hoping she will too.

Otherwise she is a very loving dog with us and seems to respect the other smaller dog as the top dog. Won't take bones away from her although she easily could and quite often licks the other dog about the mouth.

She's taken to jumping up on the bed at night to sleep. Seems cold and looking for some warmth.

I did get her the puppy vaccinations and I will get rabies due to the law but I won't be getting the other recommended shots. I only do this initially which I know I probably shouldn't do at all. She did have round worms when I got her as a pup. She was a farm dog..born and raised on a local farm.

That's all I can think of. Thank you for your help.
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dessie, is Midnight spayed? Does she seem to strain a little after urinating? Is there any odor? Does she seem to drag her hind end a little when she rises?
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She's spayed. At about 8 months I think. I can't say that I ever noticed any straining. No odor and no problems getting up that I've detected. Normal bowel movements except for that bout with the doggie flu.

I was really surprised to see this b/c she's acting normal in every way and I would think this must be uncomfortable. Doesn't seem to have to go outside to pee more than normal.

Don't know if this is important but she still does that peeing thing with submission or when she gets very excited to see one of us.
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Dessie,
I'm inclined to think she needs a Sulpher salt, and most probably Calc/Hepar as she has a timid side too.

So its either Calc Sulph 30 - If she's hot thermal state
Or Hepar Sulph 30 if she's very chilly.

One dose daily for 3 days then wait and watch to repeat.

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PS: Dessie, if there's not the slightest bit of change after a week of the remedy, then we'll change. So please keep in touch.

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One other thing. I noticed when I checked her after making the first post there was a drop of urine about to be passed when at rest. So she may be passing small drops of urine as well.
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Ok. I'm going to go with the hepar sulp first as she does seem to want to warm up and sometimes curls up like a grub worm. I'll be in touch. Thank you so much

I don't have calc/sulp so in the interim I'll get some.

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Dressie,

Please don't be disappointed if you don;t get a reaction soon. We may have to work a bit more on this problem. Keep me posted.

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Dr. Leela..things have improved I'm happy to say. The whole area is less reddened..just a little pinkish now and the small pimples are gone. Just the larger ones that look like ulcers are still remaining but are not weeping. I don't see the black crusty matter now either. Should I still wait or give more remedy? I am so grateful things are better. Could this be a chronic problem do you think or something more deep seated that's going to reappear from time to time as some other skin problem?

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