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Old 28th September 2001, 01:37 AM
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Dear Krista,
I'd like to give her a dose of Silica 200 (maybe 2) and see what happens in a week. This a basiclly a pathological prescription, and you could try it instead of Sepia. Then get back here and we'll see what is left to treat. Some interesting remedies come to mind, but what I find most prominent is the constant non healing situation.

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Old 28th September 2001, 11:01 AM
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Hi there!
This case has been going on for almost 2 years and we are getting nowhere.Here are the particulars:
Patient "Myra"
* heavy set Siamese cross (seal pt. -dark)
* 6 years old
* both ears chronically dirty (infected)
* eyes set deep (& blue in colour)
* teeth healthy, white and strong
* gums, chronic gingivitis, very red and rough (not smooth surface)
* tongue texture looks like cuts, white and red underneath and sides
*lips ulcerated and burnt from constant thick, sticky, sometimes pusy saliva -lips will appear black-ringed from collection of saliva
* nose is clear and dry
* chin acne
* glands around the neck constantly swollen (was treated for a viral related absess in right side of throat, just below the glands)
*coat is thin, course and incredibly greasy, very prone to scabs, ringworm, bald spots etc. Hind end has a tendancy to clump hair.When bathed, the water turns brown.
*nail are normal, but usually dirty from scratching herself.
*urine output, eating and drinking are normal,seems to have an aversion to real meat, stool is off and on (diarhea/solid)but usually of normal consistancy and volume.
*typical of the Siamese breed, she is territorial and loyal. She does not like a lot of changes. She was originally turned over to us because she would growl at strangers coming to the house, although after her initial 3 weeks(very agressive, would growl the minute someone came in until they left, very suddenly she accepted her new situtation and became affectionate with everyone) with us this has never been noted by us (growling at strangers; she is usually very receptive to all human contact).
* her biggest personality flaw (and the reason we can not find her a home) is that she is very affectionate, demands attention and when she has had enough she turns agressive, will start to growl and ultimately blow out her anal sacs at an intended target!(releasing a horriby smelly and oily/greasy substance).
* will mark humans with scent from the glands in her cheeks, does not spray urine.
MEDICAL:
spayed 1995
vaccinated 1995-98 with 3 in 1 (rhino, calici, panleukopenia), feline Leukemia, rabies; vaccinated 4 in 1 (includes clamydia) in 1999.
dental cleaning and conventional antibiotic treatment 1999-2000
2001: full blood panel done twice (6 months apart)normal other than a few levels on low-normal indicating possible liver problems (full records available on request).
REMEDIES USED OVER 2000-01:
Oct/00: Thuya 200CH
Nov/00: Nux vom 200CH (also supplements vit C and "Livaplex"
Jan/01: Nux vom 200CH
Jan 14/01: Merc 30CH
Mar/01: Merc 30CH
Apr/01: Merc 200CH
May/01: Calc carb 30CH
Jun/01: Calc carb 30CH
July/01: Am-m 30CH
Aug/01: Am-m 30CH
Not sure wht we never tried sulfer, probably because mercury was a better fit (swollen glands) and the redness of sulfer is not really present. I'm going to try her with Sepia this weekend. I know its a lot of info, but if anyone can help to finally cure this case your imput is greatly appreciated.
(PS: she doesn't really look yellow at all, does not seem to have a preference for warm or cool and she is easy to treat).
Thanks a bunch, Krista
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Krista,

What is the latest on Myra?

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Old 2nd October 2001, 04:10 PM
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Doctor Leela,
I wasn't sure when I would get a response for my initial posting, so on the Thurs. I did dose her with Sepia 30ch. When I got your response on Friday, I thought opps! Anyway I wanted to make sure the Sepia wasn't doing anything, which is didn't. I gave her the Silicea last night (Mon night)I wanted to monitor her after giving it to her because I have witnessed many serious aggravations at that dose (albeit in very, acutely sick animals). Anyway this was the 1st night I could do it. I checked her this morning and her mouth wasn't all goopy -but I feel its too early to tell. I will let you know in a couple of days. Thanks for your interest,
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Old 3rd October 2001, 04:05 PM
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Doctorleela,
It's been almost 2 days and there has been absolutly no response to the Sil 200. Should I repeat it again or move on to something else? Is there anything else I should note or do? She literally has gobs of thick saliva hanging from the corners of her mouth all the time, I clean her lips twice a day (scrape all the hardened gob) and clean her ears once a day. I don't know why she still eats the way she does. I've tried to get her on a natural diet, but she won't eat it (I think she is addicted to kibble). I did note that she will eat bananas (according to the original owner it was a treat, and we have given her some to see if it was true, which is was, although she doesn't "go nuts" for them). The last homeopath to work with Myra thought this was unimportant. What do you think?
Thanks, Krista
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Dear Krista,
A cat eating Bananas is significant. But unfortunately there is only one remedy listed there - Theridion whose main symptom is an extreme sensitivity to NOISE which must be present for a prescription.

Could you describe these "GOB's" of saliva that hang from her mouth, ie the consistency, colour etc.

Also I find the Aversion to meat significant for a cat. What type of meat does she not like eg, cooked or uncooked, etc

What is kibble? What is a natural diet? I'm afraid I don't know, sorry. Please excuse my ignorance.

Would you explain this peculiarity of hers as you interpret it - That she is affectionate and wants attention and then suddenly turns around and gets aggressive? What is going through that cat's mind?
I think with this, we can come closer to her remedy.

Warm regards,
Docotrleela.

PS; I think we could repeat the Silica again till we find the remedy.
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Old 3rd October 2001, 07:51 PM
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Dr.Leela,
Thanks so much for your reply, sorry about the slang terms I will clarify:
KIBBLE: is simply commercially prepared, dry cat food, made primarily from grains.
NATURAL DIET: refers to how a cat would eat if left to it's own devices in the wild; like mice and birds, however the natural diet I feed consists of primarily chicken backs and necks gound up into a mince and mixed with chicken heart, liver and a small percentage of raw vegetables.
I don't think Myra is overly sensitive to noise (cats are always a little jumpy when they hear any noises).
The infamous "gobs" are thick, opaque, sticky and creamy-clear to occassional yellow. They seem to collect and drop from the sides of her mouth.
Truth be told I have only tried her with raw meat (I'm a vegetarian, so meat in the house is strictly for the animals and I don't cook it), however I can try to cook her some ground chicken tonight to see if she will eat it.
I feel that she becomes agressive after too much petting because of fear. The reason I say this is because cats with evacuate their bowels or anal sacs and/or let their urine go, in fearful situations. Because she will usually end her "session" with squirting her anal sacs, I think fear applies. Having said that I'm not sure what exactly is the reason for her over-stimulation in the first place, again fear?
I hestitate a little regarding the "fear" analysis because she is fairly confident when she is in familiar surroundings, however when away from home she is much more likly to "go off" (in other words: become agressive). I will try the Sil again.
Thanks, Krista
I've re-read what I have written and I do think it is fear because she will act out less with people she knows and in her usual environment.
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Hi Krista,

I think Myra would do very well with THUJA.

COuld you give me history of warts or polyps/growths or any type of bad effect to vaccination, some suppressed genito urinay infection, relationship to moon phases? Anything?

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Old 4th October 2001, 04:59 PM
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Hi Doctorleela,
I have been intensly pondering this case, I must be missing a vital piece of information that will finally shed some light! My latest thought was to explore WHY she becomes overstimulated, does it have something to do with her nervous system?, does she release hormones too quickly-draining her; is it hormone based? afterall, her display of affection towards humans is oddly more "male" in behavior.
In response to you questions, she has no history of urinary or genital disturbances. She has no growths, warts or polyps. Her behavior appears consistant, we have not noted any changes according to lunar cycles. She does have a very heavy vaccination history, and I note that she has been vaccinated with the Feline Leukemia vaccine, which after reading about it, leads me to believe that it's a lot of dangerous hocus-pocus, more and more studies indicate tremendous health risks associated with this vaccine, including the contraction of leukemia itself!. Having said that, we have only vaccinated her once during her stay, no bad after affects were noted (many cats will develope flu-like symptoms or skin rashes if they can not handle vaccination). I forgot to mention on her history that she was also injected with "Program"- this is a flea control product that inhibits proper skeltal growth of the flea larva, it is injested by adult fleas when they have a blood meal from the "host" cat. We had several cats become VERY ill from this, a variety of problems from accute kidney failure to FIP (peritenitis-sp?). Needless to say we will NEVER use that product again!!! We did not note that Myra became ill from this however.
Anyways, I will try the Thuya again (although that was our original starting point in Oct/00 as noted), I will give her 200c potency and maybe try to keep a journal on her over the weekend. Hopefully something I've said today will trigger a new thought.
Thanks again!
Krista
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If the unpredictable aggressive behavior started after the rabies vaccinations you may want to consider Lyss.
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