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Old 5th August 2000, 01:38 AM
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Dear friends, today I had a strange experience with my dog. We adopted her from the shelter one year ago. Everything fine all along. She eats raw meat and chews raw bones and her diet is supplemented with a dry dog food, Sensible Choice, which is either a chicken, or lamb combined with rice, nothing artificial, nothing which would cause allergies.She takes vitamens.
About three weeks ago she had her vaccinations, something I did not want to do, but is required by law where I live. GM told me to give her sulpher 30c. I did not have it on hand to give before the shots, but gave it after and GM said that would be ok.
Last Sunday I gave her a little yogurt. I noticed that the next day she vomited, which she very, very, rarely does. Not knowing whether it was the raw meat or yogurt that caused this, I threw out both and bought some new meat. I decided to forget about giving her anymore yogurt. I also thought it might be an aggravation from the sulpher.
This morning when I let her out, I noticed her rolling on the ground. I went to inspect, as last year her rolling may have been the cause of my case of poison ivy. This time I discovered that she had a very loose stool which smelled extremely foul. She had covered herself with the stool. Of course I had to wash her outside, immediately,etc.
I went to the pet shop and asked about this behaviour. They said she might have a parasite because that causes foul smelling loose stools. I don't think she has diarrhea, as she has not gone in the house, I did not notice that she had another bm again during the afternoon, but perhaps she did it again when it got dark, I won't know until I can check in the morning. The yard still reeks of that foul odor.
My questions are:

1. do you think all of this might be an aggravation due to the sulpher 30c? Does giving this after a vacination cause aggravations as when one gets a constitutional remedy?

2. do you think this might be a parasite infection? The people in the pet shop said if it is it can be life threatening and that she would need antibiotics. What can I do homeopathically? Must I wait and see, do I get a stool test done?

3. If it is a parasite, would it be contagious to humans? I washed the poop off her, but of course dogs shake and the water may have carried some molecules of poop when it splashed on me. I took a shower as soon as possible.

I am sorry to make this such a long case. I thank you in advance for your help. Sincerly, Mselle



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Old 5th August 2000, 02:16 AM
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Hi. I can't answer homeopathically but if the loose stool keeps up, I would get a stool check.....you can always take her to the vet for a diagnosis and then follow the advice given here. It might ease your mind to get the stool checked about the parasite part. Also you don't want the dog to get dehydrated so give her/him plenty of broth, water, boiled rice etc. til this calms down. Geir might disagree with me on the food portion but its always worked for my dogs when they had diahrrea/loose stool.

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Old 5th August 2000, 02:30 AM
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Whether or not it is contagious to humans depends on the parasite. Round worms and those like it, are not directly transmitted. The eggs must lie in the soil for a length of time before becoming viable.

Giardia, a different type of parasite....known to cause very foul smelling stools, IS contagious to humans. However, you must get it into your mouth somehow....which is alot easier to do than it might seem. Giardia for a dog would probably have to be picked up from eating another animal's stool that had it, or drinking water from a creek or pond (where wild animals may have defecated).
You need a stool test to find out the type.

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Old 5th August 2000, 03:47 AM
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Dear Zymest, thanks...I am having a panic attack. I don't think I got it in my mouth, oh my pour puppy, is there any chance it is an aggravation from the sulpher? I will try to get the stool tested...oh my nerves! At least I am not shaking. Usually I shake when frightened, but my last remedy, cal carb is helping this. Best wishes, Mselle

P.s. can dogs drink electrolite water, like they give babies with diarrehea?
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Old 5th August 2000, 04:24 AM
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Hi,
Sorry about your puppy's problem. How long between the vax and the Sulph 30? What were the vax shots for? I don't know but is there a chance the dog is throwing out, via vomit and diarrhea, the affects of the vaccinations due to the Sulph? Did she continue to eat well after each episode? Does she seem well otherwise? Any skin eruptions? Some vets recommend Thuja after vaccinations if the pet becomes ill. Hope she's OK.

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Hi,
Sorry about your puppy's problem. How long between the vax and the Sulph 30? What were the vax shots for? I don't know but is there a chance the dog is throwing out, via vomit and diarrhea, the affects of the vaccinations due to the Sulph? Did she continue to eat well after each episode? Does she seem well otherwise? Any skin eruptions? Some vets recommend Thuja after vaccinations if the pet becomes ill. Hope she's OK.

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Old 5th August 2000, 12:06 PM
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Hi Mselle,

I was wondering whether raw meat in your dog's diet might be the culprit. When left uncooked, meats and poultry can harbor ecoli, salmonella and other nasty toxins that can cause digestive upsets or worse. Just food for thought! (Sorry )

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good point melin. That probably would also depend on if there was something new. Most chicken is contaminated with Campylobacter and Salmonella and if she has been eating this already, not likely to be the problem. But beef is more sporadically contaminated with Ecoli. I hope you don't feed your pup raw pork however.
If she eats raw meat she should probably be de-wormed on a regular basis.No clue as to how homeopathy deals with that topic.

Sorry Mselle, I don't know about the sulpher aggro, although one of my texts does say that Sulph is a major remedy for digestive disorders. One point, GM has said many times, that if it is an aggro it typically shouldn't last for more than a day or two.

As far as getting the molecules of stool into your mouth...you should always wash your hands after handling or petting the dog, but because the dog will have touched other surfaces as well you should wash your hands before you eat and before you prepare food...If you are a nail biter, keeping contaminants out of your mouth becomes more difficult. Try to keep your hands out of your mouth, unless you've washed them well, including under the finger nails. You don't have to go overboard though...basic hygiene is usually sufficient.

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Old 5th August 2000, 02:57 PM
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Is the temperature high? In dogs the normal rectal temerature is higher than with humans. 38-celsius is normal for a medium big dog. The smaller the dog, the higher its normal temperature.

How is its general condition? is it walking normal and stable? does pay attention to you? Sleeping? Drinking?

May be Ars. 30D can solve this. But if it was my dog, I would give Ecinacea 5 drops in its drinking water first.

Going to a vet is a good Idea.
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Old 5th August 2000, 03:47 PM
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Thanks everyone. I gave my dog some cooked potatoes this morning. So far no more smelly bm, checked the yard a few times. She is full of fun and plenty of energy, so maybe it was just an aggravation from the sulph. I did not give her raw meat today. I'll wait a few more days. She only gets raw beef and sometimes raw veal. No raw poultry or pork. I'll keep your suggestions in mind. Love, Mselle
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