Hi,
Know why you feel as you do about ethoxyquin laced Science Diet but the c/d actually does help ward off recurring urinary tract problems. Vets recommend keeping cats on it for life but Hill's suggests limiting to several months after a problem. One thing I read is that as cats age a dry food diet becomes more difficult to process and harder on the kidneys. Not sure if Wysong is available canned and/or dry but may want to consider using a canned or raw diet. Good luck, I know how scary it is when the cystitis/urine block condition threatens.

Hi Guys!

Sorry I couldn't post back sooner due to computer problems. I was able to receive your posts which helped greatly!

Sunshine is up, about and around as of this morning back to his perky, chattery, and friendly little self. He had a good appetite for dinner so I assume it was his remedy working...WHEW!! scared me!

GM, my apologies for being so wimpy about this and my sincere appreciation for your responding. I felt great relief when I saw your response. Yes, as far as I can tell he is getting potash free food. I hate to admit that I am partially in the fog with that. I have searched the internet extensively for solid info. on potash free food. I have found very little info. other than references to magnesium, calcium and phosphorous balance and acid/alkaline ash. I have asked several people that I consider knowledgable on pet nutrition, even the holistic vet I have taken him to, and gotten vague if any info. I must tell you that at this point I am about of the decision that the best thing I can possibly feed them is...marshmallows!!!! EEK!!! If this were not so serious it would strike me as hilarious as I have never found info. on a subject to be so obscure.....or maybe it is that I am just not getting it. I am continuing to search and have phone calls out to more people in hopes of getting this resolved so I will feel more knowledgeable and certain. I know from the archives that you have recommended to get the info. from a vet, the vets I have spoken with will not or cannot give me that info. instead they just recommend a specific brand, usually that they sell. I am trying to go raw and make my own. I have been grinding a whole chicken with organs and adding whole food supplements but don't know if they should be getting the bones so I went back to PetGuard and Beech Nut baby food chicken and turkey,which they like, until I feel confident about ingredients of raw. If you know of any problems that I am not aware of with this please let me know. I will continue to search and let you know how we are doing with this.
Please know how much I appreciate you, GM. If it is okay with you I will e-mail you pictures of your happy and grateful kitties so you can see the little ones you have helped so much.
Thank you GM!

gpm,thank you for the info. and for caring. It helps alot to have your understanding of my panic when it comes to the little ones. Yes, I have an attitude regarding Science Death that may be biased and unwarranted. Wysong does have a canned food, several varieties, and I have been very pleased with their products for the last couple of years. BabyKitty has done very well on them but I have to order them so I use PetGuard as I can get it locally. My goal is to have them on raw but I feel I need more info. to make sure it is potash free, as soon as I get that I will be feeding strictly raw. I have become very frustrated trying to get the info. If you know of anyone or anyplace I could get that from please let me know.
Thank you for your compassion and taking the time to post as I know this is a very busy time for you. It helps bunches.

Warm Smiles,
onebabykitty

[This message has been edited by onebabykitty (edited 23 September 2000).]

Ok that, but keep them small, as jpg, bmp, not bigger than 300, cause it take to long or clog up my mailbox.

Okay GM, I do understand about that! I will just send 1 jpg. that has both kitties in it.

Warm Smiles,
onebabykitty

Hi, I feed all my animals a raw diet and have read a lot about it. It seems that the bones are actually very good for them, and give them needed minerals. This will be more true if the chicken is organic. I have read that the one thing to be cautious of is feeding them too much liver, which can be overly full of toxins. The ratio for a cat meal is supposed to be 90% meat protien and 10% veggie, usually steamed so it is easy to digest. I have had success with this; I would be interested to hear other opinions.

Hi Corvine22,

Thank you for posting that. Maybe I won't have to do the marshmallow thing after all! Raw is what I want to feed and have a source for fresh organic chicken that I should be able to get in 2 weeks. Hopefully, I will have answers to my potash questions by then.

Warm Smiles,
onebabykitty

Got the pics, lovely couple.
Thanks.

Canned animal food is loaded with it, and neutered animals, get kidneystones from it.
The name , homeopatic is kalium carb, also known as potash,or potassium carb, what it says on some of the brands of food..and the reason it contains so mutch, is that it contains bonemeal form incinerators.., from animals..pets..a form of cannibalism..

Thank You Jvolkman and GM!!!!!!
Sunshine & BabyKitty thank you too.
Now I can say for certain that yes, they are being fed potash free food.
Thank you sssoooo much! I feel much better now.
Warm Smiles,
onebabykitty

Hi GM,

Sunshine is sitting huddled up and growling a very low growl. There are no other cats or people around him and there weren't when this started . I heard him and went to see what was going on and found him sitting there growling and kind of well, I don't know how to describe it, like he was trying to sneeze from his throat or something. I petted him and he stretched out for a little bit then curled up and started growling again.
I thought he had been doing okay as far as bowel movements and urination but can't be certain since there are other cats. I do know that he was growling when he was so constipated right after I first got him.
He isn't interested in eating and has not eaten much since the 20th when he was showing urinary problems. I have been getting him to eat more wet food, mostly raw ground chicken mixed with baby food chicken and broth.
I noticed this afternoon he was laying on the bookcase in the office all stretched out and I thought he growled then. Then later this evening he ran across the room and attacked BabyKitty. I have never seen him do anything like this before and was very surprised. I thought perhaps he was just trying to play with BabyKitty but it didn't seem that way. He jumped on his back and bit at him.
I don't know what to think about all this. Do you have any thoughts you would share? I would really appreciate any wisdom you have to impart as I don't have a clue and am truly concerned.

Thank you so much GM,
onebabykitty