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Old 4th October 1999, 05:35 AM
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Hi,
i would like to have any opinion about a dog that has been sick for 2 and half months.
He is white, fawn spots, large breed, about 7 months old, sensitive to noise (but not for thunder), dislikes to be alone (but sometimes likes to stay in a room close to us); shows fear for other dogs, if they come close to him, but has an intimidatory pose if they are far enough (can even run behind them).
Can be very excited to go outside (can even show a sexual excitement), but if he is with only one of us and somebody else stays at home he wants to go back. He is very cheerful and loves children (the smallest one is the beloved one in the family; he trust her more than all family). Loves to sit in the sun and looks for warm places.
In the night he shows involuntary twitching in the muzzle, legs and body (in this order), it last few minutes and happens in the first sleep (one eye half open); it stops if he is waken up. Can snore during sleep.

When we got him he was already sick (he didn’t have any immunization), and from then he had subsequent relapses :
1. haemorrhagic gastroenteritis; dry eczema on hind legs;
2. after about 15 days: very high temperature; very difficult to raise stairs or get down,
3. again high temperature after 12 days; right hind leg was stiff
4. few day later high temperature and swollen painful joints , stiff again, worse on the right side; transient (one day) pink rash on the abdomen
5. 8 days ago (about 15 days after last recovery) he had again high temperature, shivering long the back, swollen joints and a pink red rash on the abdomen; didn’t eat for four days.

During the feverish stages he showed:
- pain if touched
- worse by the slightest movement
- soft stools (in part green) just one or two days before the fever, followed by constipation
- shivering on the back
- conjunctivitis (clear, yellow, green discharge, in this order)
Every time temperature came very suddenly and in the afternoon, he has been always conscious, but very tired.
Last time he was thirst, drooling, mouth very dry, white tongue.

Every time he recovered very well (only the right leg remained a bit stiff and had clear running nose, only when outside), but this time he is recovering slower: very difficult to get up, shows trembling and weakness in the back. Fore legs stronger than the hind, even if the fore are more swollen (could be a nervous problem or demyelination or just muscular weakness, vets didn’t give an answer).
He had X-rays on the fore legs and vet said his bones are very thin.

He has been treated with gammaglobuline for distemper (one dose), antibiotics, antinflammatory drugs and homeopathic remedies (i changed three vets to find a classic homeopath, but no chance: I have been able only to avoid corticosteroids).

Homeopathic (from the beginning) in ch potency:
1. ars. Alb.5, ver.alb. 5, pyrog. 30;
2. Acon. 5, belladonna 5, bryonia 5, Silicea 30 (during recovering period);
3. gelsem. 30, conium 200 (recovering period)
4. bryonia 30, pulsatilla 30, rhus 200 (not right, becouse he wasn’t better after the first movement, he was just still), sulfur iodatum 15 (during recovering period)
5. apis 30, bryonia 30, merc.sol. 5, phosphorus 200

Actually he is on phosphorus 200ch: he had half of the small tube on September 28th; he is having thea chin. 35 k, one dose (two globules) every day, too (and vit.B, D, C, calcium). He finished antibiotic yesterday. I should repeat phos after 20 days.

Now he has yellow, elaborate stools ( “saffron” color, normal consistence at the first, then soft and creamy, last almost liquid), trouble on walking as above and still white tongue. White nails and mouth. Doesn’t drink often, but doesn’t drink large quantities: drinks if offered, average amount. He likes to rest most of the time. No more pain and temperature, cheerful again. He is very lean, especially in the back, he’s eating enough, but only if food is given in the hand (not in the bowl, that is a stainless steel bowl), not big amount for time.

We didn’t find the right remedy, has all that we gave didn’t help: last time i have been waiting four days, before giving antibiotic: picture showed bryonia a lot, but he had only a very short improvement: temperature went down only a bit and appeared the rash (I thought it was good), then temperature raised again and after two days rash disappeared. He was so sick (not eating, moving and with so much pain) that i had to follow vet instructions. But i don’t feel so confident about his prescription: is phosphorus right? And why thea together ? He said he will go higher or lower (phosph.) and if the dog will have a relapse he will give him cortisone and will try a therapy with strong doses of distemper vaccine (and thuya -sulfur), as distemper was suspected at the beginning (i can’t agree: it looks a strange, dangerous mix).
As i think he still has chances (and he is still alive, and recovering again!), i would love to have any other ideas.
Can Lycopodium be a choise?
Many thanks
Dany



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Old 4th October 1999, 01:47 PM
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NO wonder the dog is sick, he does probably have prooving from all those remedies, and besides, hes a calcium carb dog, read my resposes to others about the same thing, exclude food containing soya, give the dog marrow bones from cattle and let him byry those down in the earth, he needs it.
All of thos remedies needs antidoting, give him camphora x30 once a day, two times.
Then wait 2 days, give calcium carb x200 or higher.
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Old 5th October 1999, 10:04 AM
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Thank you for your recommendations.
My dog is already having a natural diet: chicken, carrots, rice and eggs. I gave him (when he was better) marrow bones from cattle (it isn't easy to find wild animals)and he loved to dig in the earth (i already knew your advices).
Now I think he's having a Phosphorus aggravation: he's very itchy (never been before) and his legs are very weak. I'll give him canphora this night, but I would like to go on with C and B vitamins (vet gave him injections until next sunday), they shouldn't bring mad cow disease.
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A dog is a carnivore, carrots, rice, etc is no food for him, study the habits of wild dogs.
If a dog eats plants, its in order to get rid of blocking of the intestes, by vomiting or fecal matter, it acts as a irritant that can cause troubles.( in fact can plant material cause malnutrition, because it constantly irritates the intestes, disturbing the natural digestive time, he cant get extrated the nutritions he needs, if it passes too fast, or if the digestive juices is changed, as they would be in a irritated intestiny.)
Hope you understand what i am trying to tell.
X ray the intestes of the dog, he can have a foreign thing in the intestes causing trouble.
Vit shots, well their ok, but sometimes they can cause problems, so have it in mind, if some new problems occures.Dont say it will!
Move on to calcium as mentioned.
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Old 5th October 1999, 02:45 PM
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Okay, i got it: dogs are not sheeps! (but that diet was the "best" in vets mind and with the other dogs i had no problem).
I'm cooking meat and chicken, becouse i worry about other desease (he is very weak), should i give it row?.
This dog has been very badly nourished during the few months of his life, where can he get vitamins, when i will stop the shot?.

About calcium carb.- just becouse i think you right: this dog had too many remedies and i would love to have the constitutional one: he is not "slow" or fat. He is precocious (teeth) and very thin (from when I know him), very long legs (now they are deformed,with too large feet).
I read Lyc. picture and it's very close to him. Are all dogs (or large breed) "calcarea"?
Do you still think calcium is still right? (I hope to not offend you with my questions).
Anyway i have to wait two days after camphora and to see what happens.
I don't want to see vets, for the moment. All this story has been very distressing and every time i have to discuss and fight becouse they just do what they want (i.e. giving antibiotic without asking).
X ray for the intestes can wait? Just to see how will stools go after the change in the diet.

I had a concern reading your post in the HH forum: i and my children has always been treated by classical homeopaths, but we often had one dose of one remedy in high potency (ch or LM) and a K remedy every day to "keep up" the same remedy. Can be dangerous? Sometimes we had very good results, but can cancer - for example - come up later as a result of a "prooving"?
Isn't this classical?
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Old 8th October 1999, 05:53 AM
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To GM: i have been waiting for an answer from you, as you has been so kind to reply to my topic.
I didn't follow your advice yet, for these reason:
- the dog is slowly improving (maybe it's for the antibiotic, but i'll see it soon)
- i would prefer to know what i'm doing and why i should give a remedy instead of a different one
- i asked for opinions only to know other people experiences and to have more clear ideas. I want to talk about this subject and i would like to be able to present my opinions to the vet (or yours if you are so kind to explain).
A forum should be for this purpouse...or not?
Maybe this can be a place where people can learn to observe and describe in a better way symptoms and their individual reactions.

- Maybe my question were stupid: but with your post you just gave me other two remedies to take...and you told me: "no wonder this dog is sick..."
Should i give those remedies without knowing why?
As i'm quite stubborn (and i saw a lot of nice help from you) i'm still going to ask: why calc.carb.?
- Phosphorus fits in part, but all complains came from right: this (and the other symptoms) may point to Lyc.? (can a "similis" remedy work well - but slower than a simillimum?).
Borland's children first group is Calcarea: the related remedies are Calc.carb.,calc.phos.,silica,lyc.,causticum,tub.
What wrong with Lyc.?
I agree that calc. is the "skeleton", but you wrote in other post: "one layer for time" and "look for the symptoms you are having now" (more or less).
Isn't this the case?
I would be gratefull if you (or others) will answer, becouse we are here (at least i thought so) to learn and share experiences, not just for having a prescription.
Years ago i read a nice book: "If you meet Buddha on your road, kill him". Everyone has the right to be well informed.
With all my respect, thank you to loosing your time with me.

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Imnpatience, impatience, understand that i dont live on the BB, cant be there all the tim, after your demands, its you who needs lyc not the dog, the dogs problems fits calc carb best thats why calc carb.
In all the other questions i give you rigth, but the manner fits lycopodium, so take one dose M. Then you will get more respect for the free advice i give you, stay away from coffe and coca cola, dont us any aluminium pots or containers, and check the drinking water for it.
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Old 9th October 1999, 06:44 AM
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Very nice answer )!

Please, belive that i respect you and your advices. I read almost everything you wrote: sometimes i agree, sometimes not (this is the world: various).

About me: i have been treated with homeopathy for 15 years and i had (but i can't remember all remedies): Thuya, Ignatia,Medhorrinum, Pulsatilla, Carcinosinum, Sepia, Phosph. ac.,Causticum, Ac. nitr.,Natr.mur., and i'm actually on Phosphorus (vet isn't treating me too! I have a homeopatic doctor).
It's possible I had Lyc. in the past, but I don't remember.
Lyc. picture fits in part: i'm shy, hate to speak in front of a lot of people...but i'm not completely a coward: if i think i HAVE to speak i do it.
I'm a too much condescendent person: never loose my control and i'm armless in front of verbal violence.
Maybe Lyc. will come up later: i'll tell you if it will.
Thank you for your free advice: i'll be glad to talk to you every time you have a little bit of time to loose with me.
When you will be VERY bored - anything to do at all - would you mind to answer to my question?
- What in calc.carb fits best?
- Why not Lyc. (my dog is shy like me, a bit coward like me, clear skin, freackles...all like me)
- Why Phosphorus? (it's working well)

A last very serious question: if a remedy can give "proving" effects (and you were right when you said that sulphur 30 every day can do this: it's my personal "proving"), is there any danger to have deep problems from a hight diluition? How can we defend ourself from an error (doctors are human been and can make mistakes: no faulty for this).

By the way: i hate coca-cola, drink a little bit of coffe, don't use aluminium or plastic, i'm vegetarian and...i don't check drink water (how can i do it?).
About my manner: people always thanks me becouse i'm a very polite person (i work with and for people; they are not my friends). English is not my mother language, maybe i have been offensive, without intention: i apologize for this.


It's lovely to have your post
Dany

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Old 9th October 1999, 09:34 PM
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HMM..as for manners... i have some myself too...na... insulted...no.. but tempered at times, yes i am...some type of manners i have contempt for.. as when i sense quarraling tendencys...powerlowers.. be equal....fine i share...use power.. similia similibus currentur...can you find my remdy??He..he..
Proovings. you cant protect yourself against highpotencies, so use no over c pot,( without having experience and knowledge, delusion of own grandeur as a homeopath is not recomended, know you limitis and responbinselty towards all life) and no over d repeated, the only thing that protects us, is common sense, and carefulness, responbinselty towards yourself and others.
If got a medical disease, it may not be possible to cure at all.
Why calc? Well repertorizing excludes the others as the first in layer remedie, but they may follow if cc dont take all, and shurely, they havent reached in to the depest level, taken the cause, thats why cc is the rigth remedy, it will, and its present in the picture now, always choose the remedy that is present.
That enough tete a tete for now, i am not a typist, am a woodpecker at the keyboard. One finger toutch ha ha...ouch...
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Try lyc, you fit it, and water tests can the vet do for you, ask him, get all containts of it, from metals to minerals and bacterias.
To confirm Lyc, check your levels of vit a,d,e,and k, lyc lacks it often, and are prooned to get gallstones,if reactions to onions well, thats lyc, alum, phosp.
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