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Old 14th May 2004, 11:08 PM
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Is there anything holistic that will dissolve tumors lying just under skin on the stomach of an older female dog? Removal is out of the question because of the age of the dog. I'm a little confused as to whether they are mammary tumors or not because they are in the stomahc areas but not on the specific mammary glands. does it matter? One is hard like little pebbles glued togetherIt moves easily under the skin, the other is like a round semi-firm lump . Neither are invasive, nor are they growing quickly but I would like to see them dissolved. Upon trying to find a solution, I find one site will say use such and such but another site doesn't mention it at all in any context to tumors. Any ideas as to what course to take or where to start looking would be appreciated
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You would need all the particular symptoms of the case and consider them along with "tumour" remedies. Do you have Repetory?
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Hello Redelle, I agree with kkrista about tumours in general. As to mammary tumours, however, there are more possibilities. These tumours are often seen in bitches which have not been spayed and begin as small nodular lumps varying in size from a pea to a walnut. At first benign, they have a tendency to become malignant as they develop. Treatment is normally surgical but the following homeopathic remedies may keep them in check in the early stages (when they are begining to develop).

1) Phytolacca 30C. Has a very important action on the mammary tissue and will prove useful in reducing the size and hardness of the growth;
2) Conium 30C. Useful when there are also swellings of lymph glands and signs of muscular weakness. More suitable for the older dog.
3) Iodum 30C. Is indicated when tumours are mainly superficial together with shrinking of mammary tissue. The dog most suited to this remedy may be thin with a dry shrivelled-looking coat and having an enormous, even voracious appetite. The superficial lymph glands are hard and small.
4) Bromium 30C. The left side of the mammary area is more affected when this remedy is indicated. There are accompanying respiratory symptoms such as coughing and nasal discharge.
5) Plumbum iodatum 30C. May be needed when there are attendant symptoms of paresis (partial paralysis) or incipient (commencing/beginning) paralysis. In this case the glands are usually stone hard and constipation is a constant feature.
6) Scrophularia nodosa 30C. This remedy has a beneficial effect on the glandular system generally and has given good results in helping to disperse small nodular growths.
7) Carcinosin 200C. This is the carcinoma (cancer) nosode and should be given as an additional remedy ! A single dose should suffice when combined with the appropriate remedy. Kind regards from the Netherlands !
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Are the lumps bothering the dog in any way?
If not - leave them alone. Think of them as a sort of vent, protecting her from further illness.
If they are bothering her - then as kkrista said, a full case needs to be taken.
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Absolutely! Good point Lisa!

Older animals ingeneral, tend to get, not really tumors rather fatty deposits. Generally its not wise to remove them (stress of surgery and anastetic) unless they grow to severly inhibit the mobility of the dog. Fatty cysts around the breasts occur in both spayed and unspayed females. If you are concerned about cancer, have your vet do a fine needle aspirate and send to a lab for analysis.

If you are concerned that the dog is not well, again, a full case needs to be taken (the deposits may only be one of many symptoms of a greater problem).
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The thing I'm confused about is that they are not attached to the actual mammary glands- they move easily under the skin. Several are very hard- like little pebbles glued together- and one is like a round soft lump- moving directly under the skin. they are not invasive. The dog was spayed many years ago and is in otherwise good health. I know they say Conium for mammary tumors but are these mammary tumors? And I wonder if these are fibromas, or adenomas or neither? Some say use bloodroot but otheres say it's poisonous . I'd like to be sure of my footing before I proceed. Knowing exactly what the lumps are classified as would help .
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Sorry,forgot to clarify that some of them are in the area of the mammary glands but not directly connected to them. Sopme of them are four inches away from the mammary gland.Does that still mean they are mammary tumors or do they actually have to be attached to the mammary gland? She also has little round growths, the size of a pea , on the surface of her skin and they are like little minute pebbles glued together. I've been trying to remove those also through homeopathic measures. What I'm using is keeping them at bay but not removing them entirely.(Note: thank-you for your posted replies. Although I still don't know the exact steps to take yet, the information given so far has been very helpful .)
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If the lumps are not bothering her --- leave them alone!

I wouldn't begin to prescribe only on the tumours. You can not target one symptom to treat -- you have take all observable signs and symptoms into account.

If you disturb the lumps -- then realise the information gained from that will not help where homeopathic treatment is concerned. We prescribe on observable signs and symptoms -- not on pathology reports. And the risks of stirring up trouble for you dog is too high, in my opinon - and doesn't carry any benefit other than satisfying the owner of 'what it is'.

Aside from the tumours --- is the dog okay??
If so, then please leave those 'vents' alone. Otherwise you''ll possibly stir up big trouble for her.
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These sound like fatty cyst deposits, if they move and don't appear to be attached thats a very good thing! (not cancer), therefore you can not treat like a cancer. If they are not overly large as to inhibit the mobility of the dog, leave them. Taking them off, just because, is risky. If you want to treat the dog homeopathically, this would only be one very small symptom to work from, without any others, there is nothing to do about it. One of my females has them as well, they are non painful and really not large, she is also otherwise healthy.
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Several of the tumors are hard like rocks and they are bothering her mobility on stairs and her comfort when lying down. I wondered about the use of sheep sorrel. I read that the leaves are used. All I was able to get was dried sheep sorrel from the bulk section of a health food store- it looked woody- as though leaves weren't the main component. Are the woody stocks/stems of sheep sorrel also used and considered as usable as the leaves? What would be the best method to extract it's potency. Ground up and given raw( as companies market it in capsule form) or to make a tincture or tea from it. Can anyone tell me the difference in potency between a tincture and an extract and how to go about making an extract from dried herbs?(I already know how to make a tincture but not how to make an extract or even if it's possible to do so)
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