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Old 17th February 2008, 12:24 PM
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This is a book written by Dr A D.Nikam, Puna.
It's a very good book with severe gross pathological conditions & there treatment without ICU/CCU, INJECTION & Saline given by him with 30 potency medicines. A 60 bedded hospital of pure homoeopathic treatment.
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Old 17th February 2008, 12:26 PM
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Hello
This is a book written by Dr A D.Nikam, Puna.
It's a very good book with severe gross pathological conditions & there treatment without ICU/CCU, INJECTION & Saline given by him with 30 potency medicines. A 60 bedded hospital of pure homoeopathic treatment.
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Hello
This is a book written by Dr A D.Nikam, Puna.
It's a very good book with severe gross pathological conditions & there treatment without ICU/CCU, INJECTION & Saline given by him with 30 potency medicines. A 60 bedded hospital of pure homoeopathic treatment.
Which book?
What hospital?
Which conditions?

How do they treat the following emergency conditions:
- acute pulmonary oedema
- ventricular fibrillation
- acute addisonian crisis.
- subarachnoid haemorrhage
- pulmonary embolism
- meningococcal meningitis
- acute aortic dissection
- acute lymhocytic leukaemia
I have asked this question and similar ones before.

But everyone falls silent.
There is no answer of course because homoeopathy absolutely cannot trreat these conditions. You have no answers but you continue to believe that homoeopathy works. You have to ask yourself:

How come homoeopathy is supposed to work for minor undiagnosed acute illnesses and minor chronic illnesses with all the usual psychological overload, but NOT AT ALL for a serious, well defined acute illness like one of those listed above?

What sort of treatment works only for minor illnesses and NOT AT ALL for serious and life-threatening ilnesses?

What sort of cognitive dissonance allows you to keep believing in homoeopathy, when the homoeopaths on this board all fall silent when asked specific questions about specific situations. How come they only have something to say when they can waffle on in generalities and make liberal use of multiple links and quotes from sources that likewise have no clue and fall silent when asked simple relevant and pointed questions.

Why are you all so content with this.
Don't you want to know the answers?

Why does homoeopathy not work in a person in an addisonian crisis?
This patient will DIE without conventional treatment.

Homoeopathy has no answers.

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Hi Billy Joe,

I'm not interested in engaging in argument; your mind's reached a conclusion with which it's satisfied. I worked in conventional medicine for over 10 years, and taught clinical medicine at the University. The situations you describe usually do require conventional intervention. However, you don't have any experience or understanding of the role homeopathy plays in preventing such end-stage events from happening. I wouldn't have left conventional practice if it didn't, and for the previous 10 years I've confirmed that in practice. I understand I could never prove that to your satisfaction, and I don't intend to try. I don't diss the value of conventional emergent interventions--my wife continues to work in conventional practice, and we recognize and respect the place for both conventional and alternative approaches. For the life of me I don't understand why such sarcasm--from either direction--finds its way into discussions about healing.

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So pick one of the conditions Billy Joe mentioned and explain
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the role homeopathy plays in preventing such end-stage events from happening.
Do it in clinical language that would make sense to a medically trained person and not the mumbo jumbo of homeopathy.
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I'm not interested in engaging in argument;
I prefer to call it a discussion.
But not many around here are interested in that either.
I think the problem is cognitive dissonance and confronting that is a bit too much for some.

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your mind's reached a conclusion with which it's satisfied.
My mind has not reached a conclusion.
I prefer to think of it as a continuing journey.
Everything should be able to be questioned.
However, evidence makes some things much more likely to be true that others.

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I worked in conventional medicine for over 10 years, and taught clinical medicine at the University. The situations you describe usually do require conventional intervention.
That was my point.
For all emergency conditions you need conventional medical treatment.
Doesn't that make you think just a little bit about homoeopathy?
Why is it that homoeopathy has no role in emergency medicine?

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However, you don't have any experience or understanding of the role homeopathy plays in preventing such end-stage events from happening.
As william said, pick one:
How does homoeopathy help prevent an addisonian crisis?

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I wouldn't have left conventional practice if it didn't, and for the previous 10 years I've confirmed that in practice. I understand I could never prove that to your satisfaction, and I don't intend to try.
Well, you couldn't even if you wanted to try, because there are too many variables unaccounted for when you rely on personal experience for evidence that something works.
How do you account for the placebo effect, confirmation bias, and variations in the natural history of the disease. All of your homoeopathic effect could be just placebo effect, confirmation bias and natural resolution, with nothing left for homoeopathy to do.

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I don't diss the value of conventional emergent interventions--my wife continues to work in conventional practice, and we recognize and respect the place for both conventional and alternative approaches.
Well, I would respect homoeopathy if there was either reliable evidence that it works, or a possible mechanism by which it could work. Neither is the case.
Doesn't that worry you just a little bit, or haven't you studied the idea of "water memory" and "quantum entanglement" sufficiently well to come to the obvious conclusion that it is all just nonsense. There simply is no mechanism by which homoeopathy could work. Period.

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For the life of me I don't understand why such sarcasm--from either direction--finds its way into discussions about healing.
It's not sarcasm, it's frustration.
Everyone here just wants to waffle on about generalities, bringing anything and everything into the discussion. They like nothing more than to post heaps of links and lots of text written by someone else, all of which mostly turns out to be totally irrelevant to the topic under discussion. They like nothing more than to keep changing the topic and going off on tangents. And when asked a simple direct question that demands just a little thinking and imput from themselves, they fall silent.

Oh well, I have tried.

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Dear Dr. Suchi
Via this link a database of cases with severe patology cured by homeopathics.

Listed under the DR. S.K. Banerjea cases,
Firsthand knowledge can be seen in dr. Banerjea's many clinics in Calcutta India
see link:
cured cases by S.K.Banerjea Link: www.homoeopathy-course.com
click cured cases gallery - For details on all these cases you must CONTACT THE PRACTICIONER,case details are not posted on discussion forums.Dr. Banerjea's email and address are located on the website for more info.

Many cases of cure using homeopathics
cure database
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www.homoeopathy-course.com
Many cases of cure using homeopathics
cure database

Gina,

I know you have me on ignore now, but....


All I want is just one fully documented case of a patient with a disease which is uniformly fatal unless treated by conventional medicines which was cured by homoeopathy alone.

Your first link is to front page of a website but I can find no link to fatal diseases cured by homoeopathy.

Your second link takes us to cases none of which are fully documented - if you disagree please refer to one case that you feel IS fully documented - as well a numerous more links.

Please, Gina, just one fully documented case of a patient with a disease which is uniformly fatal unless treated with conventional medicines which has been cured using homoeopathy alone.

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Please, Gina, just one fully documented case of a patient with a disease which is uniformly fatal unless treated with conventional medicines which has been cured using homoeopathy alone.

Just as I thought...

No answer.

As long as you can link and quote with abandon, you are happy.
As soon as you need to be specific, you are completely lost.
I just hope you take this lesson on board.

And I assume that patient with addisons disease that you may have seen once and failed to recognise, got worse and had the good sense to get some real help.

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Hello,
Sorry i hv fogrot 2 mention the full name
Book name - "Homoeopathic Hospital ? Yes ! Without injection, saline, ICU/CCU, SURGERY."
written by- Dr Amarsinha D. Nikam. India.
And his Hospital in Poona.
Name Of the Hospital - Aditya Homoeopathic Hospital & healing center.
Address - Dr Nikam,
aditya Homoeo..Hospital,
Pimpri,Pune -411017.,Maharashtra.

And in this book severe pathological & Life threatening cases are mentioned they are -
-Acute Post infectios Glomerulonephritis.
-Coma.
-Laryngeal Stridor with cord paralysis.
-Myasthenia Gravis
-M.I
-Vent Septal Defect
-Trigeminal neuralgia
-Patent duct arteriosis
-Struge web synd
-Ranula
-Occ Thrombosis in brachial Art
-T.B
-Neph synd.
-Wilson"s dis
-Ac. Appendicitis.
-Ac. Hepatitis B with immune complex & Glomerulonephritis.
-Ac. Intermittent Pophyria.
-C.R.F
-Avas. necrosis of Femur.
-Chr. coronary art dis.
-Chr myleoid Leukemia
-Diab Gangrene.
-Cushing's Synd
-Impotency
-HIV
-INTESTINAL OBSTRUCTION.
-Krait poisoning.

Total 33 cases are given in these some are life threatenig.
I hv visited this hospital and also invite you to visit this hospitall

To Billy i am giving your answer but i am curios about Are you a Allopath or homoeopath ?
Regards
dr suchi
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