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Old 1st November 2007, 03:15 PM
Luise Kunkle
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Hi Jeff,

On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, jtikari wrote:

> Every homeopathic remedy will 'consistently not work' if given
> inappropriately;
> and every homeopathic remedy will work if symptoms are carefully matched to
> the ailment.
>
> If a homeopathic remedy didn't work - it's the doctor who is at fault. Simple
> as
> that!
>

Weeellll:-)

In that case Hahnemann and v. Boenninghausen were very
incompetent homeopaths!

Regards

Luise

>
>
> TRUTH is an accurate conception of a revelation - Jeff Tikari
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> worldwide
> ----- ----- Original Message ----- From: <homeolist (AT) otherhealth (DOT) com>
> To: <homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 3:19 PM
> Subject: [H] What didn't work?
>
>
>>
>> There seems to be some criticism on science blogs of the fact that
>> there's little or no discussion of what doesn't work in homeopathy.
>> Perhaps the image of homeopathy would be bolstered (and improvements
>> made in the effectiveness of treatments) by a discussion of what
>> consistently doesn't work?
>>
>> Do you know of a remedy that never or rarely works?
>>
>>
>> --
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Old 2nd November 2007, 06:55 AM
jtikari
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Luise,

Every one makes mistakes - everyone!
I have had remedies that did not work (Arnica). I had to
reassess the case and prescribe something else. BUT that
does not mean Arnica does not work...it was I, the doctor,
that was at fault in this case. NOT incompetent. But, yes, if
you wish to use that word, incompetent on that occasion.
(though incompetent does suggest an inability...,etc.)


Jeff


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Luise Kunkle" <sem-pa (AT) bar-do (DOT) net>
To: <homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com>
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [H] What didn't work?


>
> Hi Jeff,
>
> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, jtikari wrote:
>
>> Every homeopathic remedy will 'consistently not work' if given
>> inappropriately;
>> and every homeopathic remedy will work if symptoms are carefully matched
>> to
>> the ailment.
>>
>> If a homeopathic remedy didn't work - it's the doctor who is at fault.
>> Simple as
>> that!
>>

> Weeellll:-)
>
> In that case Hahnemann and v. Boenninghausen were very incompetent
> homeopaths!
>
> Regards
>
> Luise
>
>>
>>
>> TRUTH is an accurate conception of a revelation - Jeff Tikari
>> http://www.agloco.com/r/BBFM1035 - Contr. & click to earn at home &
>> worldwide
>> ----- ----- Original Message ----- From: <homeolist (AT) otherhealth (DOT) com>
>> To: <homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 3:19 PM
>> Subject: [H] What didn't work?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> There seems to be some criticism on science blogs of the fact that
>>> there's little or no discussion of what doesn't work in homeopathy.
>>> Perhaps the image of homeopathy would be bolstered (and improvements
>>> made in the effectiveness of treatments) by a discussion of what
>>> consistently doesn't work?
>>>
>>> Do you know of a remedy that never or rarely works?
>>>
>>> --
>>> mike150160
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> mike150160's Profile:
>>> http://www.otherhealth.com/members/mike150160.html
>>> View this thread: What didn't work?
>>>
>>>
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Old 2nd November 2007, 10:45 AM
Sheri Nakken
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Well, the word incompetent is a very different thing than what Jeff said,
the doctor is at fault.
Maybe in German it isn't, but in English the use of the word 'incompetent'
is much stronger and all encompassing
I don't always get the right remedy at first or ever but that doesn't make
me incompetent.

incompetent
adj 1: not qualified or suited for a purpose; "an incompetent
secret service"; "the filming was hopeless
incompetent" [ant: competent]
2: showing lack of skill or aptitude; "a bungling workman";
"did a clumsy job"; "his fumbling attempt to put up a
shelf" [syn: bungling, clumsy, fumbling]
3: not doing a good job; "incompetent at chess" [syn: unskilled]
4: not meeting requirements; "unequal to the demands put upon
him" [syn: incapable, unequal to]
n : someone who is not competent to take effective action [syn:
incompetent person]

Sheri
>
> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, jtikari wrote:
>
>> Every homeopathic remedy will 'consistently not work' if given
>> inappropriately;
>> and every homeopathic remedy will work if symptoms are carefully matched
>> to
>> the ailment.
>>
>> If a homeopathic remedy didn't work - it's the doctor who is at fault.
>> Simple as
>> that!
>>



> Weeellll:-)
>
> In that case Hahnemann and v. Boenninghausen were very incompetent
> homeopaths!
>
> Regards
>
> Luise


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Old 2nd November 2007, 02:25 PM
Luise Kunkle
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Default Re: What didn't work?

Hi Sheri, Jeff,

correction noted. Thank you.

However:

There are many cases, quite a big percentage of cases, that Hahnemann
did not cure, that v. Boenninghausen did not cure. Some of them
improved, some of them did not. And that does not mean with the first
prescription but "not at all" - sometimes treating over long years.

So either those two were "call it whatever you like" or there is at
least a possibility that not everything may be curable by homeopathy.

Regards

Luise


On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, Sheri Nakken wrote:

> Well, the word incompetent is a very different thing than what Jeff said,
> the doctor is at fault.
> Maybe in German it isn't, but in English the use of the word 'incompetent'
> is much stronger and all encompassing
> I don't always get the right remedy at first or ever but that doesn't make
> me incompetent.
>
> incompetent
> adj 1: not qualified or suited for a purpose; "an incompetent
> secret service"; "the filming was hopeless
> incompetent" [ant: competent]
> 2: showing lack of skill or aptitude; "a bungling workman";
> "did a clumsy job"; "his fumbling attempt to put up a
> shelf" [syn: bungling, clumsy, fumbling]
> 3: not doing a good job; "incompetent at chess" [syn: unskilled]
> 4: not meeting requirements; "unequal to the demands put upon
> him" [syn: incapable, unequal to]
> n : someone who is not competent to take effective action [syn:
> incompetent person]
>
> Sheri
>>
>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, jtikari wrote:
>>
>>> Every homeopathic remedy will 'consistently not work' if given
>>> inappropriately;
>>> and every homeopathic remedy will work if symptoms are carefully matched
>>> to
>>> the ailment.
>>>
>>> If a homeopathic remedy didn't work - it's the doctor who is at fault.
>>> Simple as
>>> that!
>>>

>
>
>> Weeellll:-)
>>
>> In that case Hahnemann and v. Boenninghausen were very incompetent
>> homeopaths!
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Luise

>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
> Well Within & Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours (worldwide)
> Vaccination Information & Choice Network (new website)
> http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm
> http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm
> homeopathycures (AT) tesco (DOT) net
> ONLINE Introduction to Homeopathy Classes - next one September 5, 2007
> ONLINE Introduction to Vaccine Dangers Classes - September 6, 2007
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> 5, 2007
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Old 2nd November 2007, 02:35 PM
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Or... Perhaps there is value in
a) Proving more remedies
b) Learning more remedies
c) Learning remedies in greater depth and breadth
d) Learning further case management techniques
e) To Be Determined...

It's a rather long leap to go from noting that the *pioneers* were not
able to cure everyone, to a conclusion that "homeopathy" cannot cure!

But the observation is IMO good reason for us not to toss the rest of
the toolbag overboard. :-)
Sometimes herbs, nutrition, "other modalities" and even (gasp)
allopathy can be useful too...
Shannon

On Nov 2, 2007, at 9:18 AM, Luise Kunkle wrote:

>
> Hi Sheri, Jeff,
>
> correction noted. Thank you.
>
> However:
>
> There are many cases, quite a big percentage of cases, that Hahnemann
> did not cure, that v. Boenninghausen did not cure. Some of them
> improved, some of them did not. And that does not mean with the first
> prescription but "not at all" - sometimes treating over long years.
>
> So either those two were "call it whatever you like" or there is at
> least a possibility that not everything may be curable by homeopathy.
>
> Regards
>
> Luise


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Old 2nd November 2007, 05:35 PM
Dearing Fauntleroy
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Hi Everyone
AND on the bottom line, the soul of the patient makes it's "choices"
and orchestrates circumstances to this end. As far as a cure goes, when
it is time, it is time and when its not, then it's not, regardless of
the skill of the homeopath.
So many factors can intervene, if the time is not right - otherwise the
best homeopath alive today would cure close to 100% of patients.

dearing


On Nov 2, 2007, at 8:18 AM, Luise Kunkle wrote:

>
> Hi Sheri, Jeff,
>
> correction noted. Thank you.
>
> However:
>
> There are many cases, quite a big percentage of cases, that Hahnemann
> did not cure, that v. Boenninghausen did not cure. Some of them
> improved, some of them did not. And that does not mean with the first
> prescription but "not at all" - sometimes treating over long years.
>
> So either those two were "call it whatever you like" or there is at
> least a possibility that not everything may be curable by homeopathy.
>
> Regards
>
> Luise
>
>
> On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, Sheri Nakken wrote:
>
>> Well, the word incompetent is a very different thing than what Jeff
>> said,
>> the doctor is at fault.
>> Maybe in German it isn't, but in English the use of the word
>> 'incompetent'
>> is much stronger and all encompassing
>> I don't always get the right remedy at first or ever but that doesn't
>> make
>> me incompetent.
>>
>> incompetent
>> adj 1: not qualified or suited for a purpose; "an incompetent
>> secret service"; "the filming was hopeless
>> incompetent" [ant: competent]
>> 2: showing lack of skill or aptitude; "a bungling workman";
>> "did a clumsy job"; "his fumbling attempt to put up a
>> shelf" [syn: bungling, clumsy, fumbling]
>> 3: not doing a good job; "incompetent at chess" [syn: unskilled]
>> 4: not meeting requirements; "unequal to the demands put upon
>> him" [syn: incapable, unequal to]
>> n : someone who is not competent to take effective action [syn:
>> incompetent person]
>>
>> Sheri
>>>
>>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, jtikari wrote:
>>>
>>>> Every homeopathic remedy will 'consistently not work' if given
>>>> inappropriately;
>>>> and every homeopathic remedy will work if symptoms are carefully
>>>> matched
>>>> to
>>>> the ailment.
>>>>
>>>> If a homeopathic remedy didn't work - it's the doctor who is at
>>>> fault.
>>>> Simple as
>>>> that!
>>>>

>>
>>
>>> Weeellll:-)
>>>
>>> In that case Hahnemann and v. Boenninghausen were very incompetent
>>> homeopaths!
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Luise

>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
>> Well Within & Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours (worldwide)
>> Vaccination Information & Choice Network (new website)
>> http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm
>> http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm
>> homeopathycures (AT) tesco (DOT) net
>> ONLINE Introduction to Homeopathy Classes - next one September 5, 2007
>> ONLINE Introduction to Vaccine Dangers Classes - September 6, 2007
>> ONLINE Intro to Diseases - Risk, Reality & Alternative Treatment
>> September
>> 5, 2007
>> Voicemail US 530-740-0561 UK phone from US 011-44-1874-624-936
>>
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Old 2nd November 2007, 05:45 PM
Knapp, Richard
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Second that. No little white pill has the power to transform a human
life. The best medicine can only aid the soul's efforts to heal.

Richard Knapp
EAS - Data Warehouse Group
University of Missouri
615 Locust Street #200
Columbia, MO 65201
573-882-8856
knappr (AT) umsystem (DOT) edu


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Fauntleroy
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 12:28 PM
To: Homeopathy
Subject: Re: [H] What didn't work?

Hi Everyone
AND on the bottom line, the soul of the patient makes it's "choices"
and orchestrates circumstances to this end. As far as a cure goes, when
it is time, it is time and when its not, then it's not, regardless of
the skill of the homeopath.
So many factors can intervene, if the time is not right - otherwise the
best homeopath alive today would cure close to 100% of patients.

dearing


On Nov 2, 2007, at 8:18 AM, Luise Kunkle wrote:

>
> Hi Sheri, Jeff,
>
> correction noted. Thank you.
>
> However:
>
> There are many cases, quite a big percentage of cases, that Hahnemann
> did not cure, that v. Boenninghausen did not cure. Some of them
> improved, some of them did not. And that does not mean with the first
> prescription but "not at all" - sometimes treating over long years.
>
> So either those two were "call it whatever you like" or there is at
> least a possibility that not everything may be curable by homeopathy.
>
> Regards
>
> Luise
>
>
> On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, Sheri Nakken wrote:
>
>> Well, the word incompetent is a very different thing than what Jeff
>> said,
>> the doctor is at fault.
>> Maybe in German it isn't, but in English the use of the word
>> 'incompetent'
>> is much stronger and all encompassing
>> I don't always get the right remedy at first or ever but that doesn't


>> make
>> me incompetent.
>>
>> incompetent
>> adj 1: not qualified or suited for a purpose; "an incompetent
>> secret service"; "the filming was hopeless
>> incompetent" [ant: competent]
>> 2: showing lack of skill or aptitude; "a bungling workman";
>> "did a clumsy job"; "his fumbling attempt to put up a
>> shelf" [syn: bungling, clumsy, fumbling]
>> 3: not doing a good job; "incompetent at chess" [syn: unskilled]
>> 4: not meeting requirements; "unequal to the demands put upon
>> him" [syn: incapable, unequal to]
>> n : someone who is not competent to take effective action [syn:
>> incompetent person]
>>
>> Sheri
>>>
>>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, jtikari wrote:
>>>
>>>> Every homeopathic remedy will 'consistently not work' if given
>>>> inappropriately;
>>>> and every homeopathic remedy will work if symptoms are carefully
>>>> matched
>>>> to
>>>> the ailment.
>>>>
>>>> If a homeopathic remedy didn't work - it's the doctor who is at
>>>> fault.
>>>> Simple as
>>>> that!
>>>>

>>
>>
>>> Weeellll:-)
>>>
>>> In that case Hahnemann and v. Boenninghausen were very incompetent
>>> homeopaths!
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Luise

>>
>>

----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
>> Well Within & Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours (worldwide)
>> Vaccination Information & Choice Network (new website)
>> http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm
>> http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm
>> homeopathycures (AT) tesco (DOT) net
>> ONLINE Introduction to Homeopathy Classes - next one September 5,

2007
>> ONLINE Introduction to Vaccine Dangers Classes - September 6, 2007
>> ONLINE Intro to Diseases - Risk, Reality & Alternative Treatment
>> September
>> 5, 2007
>> Voicemail US 530-740-0561 UK phone from US 011-44-1874-624-936
>>
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Old 2nd November 2007, 05:55 PM
Robert & Shannon Nelson
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Mm, having seen a couple of really transformative responses, I'm not
eager to be *too* quick to go determinstic on it... True tho,
sometimes the patient simply needs to go. Other times tho... Well if
it's all about soul choice, what the heck are we wasting our time with,
hm?
:-)
Shannon


On Nov 2, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Knapp, Richard wrote:

>
> Second that. No little white pill has the power to transform a human
> life. The best medicine can only aid the soul's efforts to heal.
>
> Richard Knapp
> EAS - Data Warehouse Group
> University of Missouri
> 615 Locust Street #200
> Columbia, MO 65201
> 573-882-8856
> knappr (AT) umsystem (DOT) edu
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com
> [mailto:homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Dearing
> Fauntleroy
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 12:28 PM
> To: Homeopathy
> Subject: Re: [H] What didn't work?
>
> Hi Everyone
> AND on the bottom line, the soul of the patient makes it's "choices"
> and orchestrates circumstances to this end. As far as a cure goes, when
> it is time, it is time and when its not, then it's not, regardless of
> the skill of the homeopath.
> So many factors can intervene, if the time is not right - otherwise the
> best homeopath alive today would cure close to 100% of patients.
>
> dearing
>
>
> On Nov 2, 2007, at 8:18 AM, Luise Kunkle wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Sheri, Jeff,
>>
>> correction noted. Thank you.
>>
>> However:
>>
>> There are many cases, quite a big percentage of cases, that Hahnemann
>> did not cure, that v. Boenninghausen did not cure. Some of them
>> improved, some of them did not. And that does not mean with the first
>> prescription but "not at all" - sometimes treating over long years.
>>
>> So either those two were "call it whatever you like" or there is at
>> least a possibility that not everything may be curable by homeopathy.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Luise
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, Sheri Nakken wrote:
>>
>>> Well, the word incompetent is a very different thing than what Jeff
>>> said,
>>> the doctor is at fault.
>>> Maybe in German it isn't, but in English the use of the word
>>> 'incompetent'
>>> is much stronger and all encompassing
>>> I don't always get the right remedy at first or ever but that doesn't

>
>>> make
>>> me incompetent.
>>>
>>> incompetent
>>> adj 1: not qualified or suited for a purpose; "an incompetent
>>> secret service"; "the filming was hopeless
>>> incompetent" [ant: competent]
>>> 2: showing lack of skill or aptitude; "a bungling workman";
>>> "did a clumsy job"; "his fumbling attempt to put up a
>>> shelf" [syn: bungling, clumsy, fumbling]
>>> 3: not doing a good job; "incompetent at chess" [syn: unskilled]
>>> 4: not meeting requirements; "unequal to the demands put upon
>>> him" [syn: incapable, unequal to]
>>> n : someone who is not competent to take effective action [syn:
>>> incompetent person]
>>>
>>> Sheri
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, jtikari wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Every homeopathic remedy will 'consistently not work' if given
>>>>> inappropriately;
>>>>> and every homeopathic remedy will work if symptoms are carefully
>>>>> matched
>>>>> to
>>>>> the ailment.
>>>>>
>>>>> If a homeopathic remedy didn't work - it's the doctor who is at
>>>>> fault.
>>>>> Simple as
>>>>> that!
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Weeellll:-)
>>>>
>>>> In that case Hahnemann and v. Boenninghausen were very incompetent
>>>> homeopaths!
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Luise
>>>
>>>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
>>> Well Within & Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours (worldwide)
>>> Vaccination Information & Choice Network (new website)
>>> http://www.wellwithin1.com/vaccine.htm
>>> http://www.wellwithin1.com/homeo.htm
>>> homeopathycures (AT) tesco (DOT) net
>>> ONLINE Introduction to Homeopathy Classes - next one September 5,

> 2007
>>> ONLINE Introduction to Vaccine Dangers Classes - September 6, 2007
>>> ONLINE Intro to Diseases - Risk, Reality & Alternative Treatment
>>> September
>>> 5, 2007
>>> Voicemail US 530-740-0561 UK phone from US 011-44-1874-624-936
>>>
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Old 2nd November 2007, 06:31 PM
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I think this thread started with working but taken turn to cure.Total cure depends on many things of life.In my opinion Homeopathics remedies work if it is applied with similarity of symptoms. The choice of similarity depends on the art of interpritation of the Homeopath. And Homeopath is also a human being with his own problems and thoughts. Error by human is not new.Its experienced by most of the genious sometime in their life. So why we will say that homeopathic remedies donot work? If any remedy didnt worked in my opinion its the mind of the selector didnt worked at the time of selection.
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Old 2nd November 2007, 07:25 PM
Dearing Fauntleroy
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Hi Shannon
Most likely you do not know which of your patients has made the
SPIRITUAL "choice" for cure thru homeopathy (probably not of the
conscious mind), so you do your best for each patient and let the chips
fall as they may. Maybe at times what a particular patient "needs" from
you is not the great remedy, but your love and support, and everything
in between.
dearing


On Nov 2, 2007, at 11:45 AM, Robert & Shannon Nelson wrote:

> Mm, having seen a couple of really transformative responses, I'm not
> eager to be *too* quick to go determinstic on it... True tho,
> sometimes the patient simply needs to go. Other times tho... Well if
> it's all about soul choice, what the heck are we wasting our time
> with, hm?
> :-)
> Shannon
>
>
> On Nov 2, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Knapp, Richard wrote:
>
>>
>> Second that. No little white pill has the power to transform a human
>> life. The best medicine can only aid the soul's efforts to heal.
>>
>> Richard Knapp
>> EAS - Data Warehouse Group
>> University of Missouri
>> 615 Locust Street #200
>> Columbia, MO 65201
>> 573-882-8856
>> knappr (AT) umsystem (DOT) edu
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com
>> [mailto:homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Dearing
>> Fauntleroy
>> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 12:28 PM
>> To: Homeopathy
>> Subject: Re: [H] What didn't work?
>>
>> Hi Everyone
>> AND on the bottom line, the soul of the patient makes it's "choices"
>> and orchestrates circumstances to this end. As far as a cure goes,
>> when
>> it is time, it is time and when its not, then it's not, regardless of
>> the skill of the homeopath.
>> So many factors can intervene, if the time is not right - otherwise
>> the
>> best homeopath alive today would cure close to 100% of patients.
>>
>> dearing
>>
>>
>> On Nov 2, 2007, at 8:18 AM, Luise Kunkle wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Sheri, Jeff,
>>>
>>> correction noted. Thank you.
>>>
>>> However:
>>>
>>> There are many cases, quite a big percentage of cases, that Hahnemann
>>> did not cure, that v. Boenninghausen did not cure. Some of them
>>> improved, some of them did not. And that does not mean with the first
>>> prescription but "not at all" - sometimes treating over long years.
>>>
>>> So either those two were "call it whatever you like" or there is at
>>> least a possibility that not everything may be curable by homeopathy.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Luise
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, Sheri Nakken wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, the word incompetent is a very different thing than what Jeff
>>>> said,
>>>> the doctor is at fault.
>>>> Maybe in German it isn't, but in English the use of the word
>>>> 'incompetent'
>>>> is much stronger and all encompassing
>>>> I don't always get the right remedy at first or ever but that
>>>> doesn't

>>
>>>> make
>>>> me incompetent.
>>>>
>>>> incompetent
>>>> adj 1: not qualified or suited for a purpose; "an incompetent
>>>> secret service"; "the filming was hopeless
>>>> incompetent" [ant: competent]
>>>> 2: showing lack of skill or aptitude; "a bungling workman";
>>>> "did a clumsy job"; "his fumbling attempt to put up a
>>>> shelf" [syn: bungling, clumsy, fumbling]
>>>> 3: not doing a good job; "incompetent at chess" [syn: unskilled]
>>>> 4: not meeting requirements; "unequal to the demands put upon
>>>> him" [syn: incapable, unequal to]
>>>> n : someone who is not competent to take effective action [syn:
>>>> incompetent person]
>>>>
>>>> Sheri
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, jtikari wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Every homeopathic remedy will 'consistently not work' if given
>>>>>> inappropriately;
>>>>>> and every homeopathic remedy will work if symptoms are carefully
>>>>>> matched
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the ailment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If a homeopathic remedy didn't work - it's the doctor who is at
>>>>>> fault.
>>>>>> Simple as
>>>>>> that!
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Weeellll:-)
>>>>>
>>>>> In that case Hahnemann and v. Boenninghausen were very incompetent
>>>>> homeopaths!
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Luise
>>>>
>>>>

>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> 2007
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