Hi all,
This looks like something we ought to be responding to! Click the
"tinyurl" to read the petition, and add your response if you agree! (I
would *think* this is US only--anyone have a different opinion?)
Shannon

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There is a crisis in health freedom. On April 30, 2007 the FDA will
close the public comment period on a "Guidance" which will classify
every alternative practice as medicine so that only licensed physicians
can carry out the procedure AND vitamins, minerals, herbs, etc., will
suddenly become "untested drugs" which will be forbidden.

Bad? Real Bad! But public outcry can stop this assault on your health
and your freedom.

Spread the word! Tell everyone in your Circle of Influence,
professionals, alternative practitioners, nutrient and herb companies,
everyone! Let them know how important their participation is to make
sure the FDA backs off from this repressive course.

Please share this link with them and urge them to take action:
http://tinyurl.com/2u7ghc

Yours in health and freedom,

Rima E. Laibow, MD
Medical Director
Natural Solutions Foundation
www.HealthFreedomUSA.org

With respect to homeopathics at least, they have been regulated by the FDA as drugs in the US since the 1930s. Of course, FDA doesn't believe there is any material substance in them, so its concern has been purity of preparation via HPUS standards. So, this proposed guidance (which should not be mistaken for regulation) has me a little puzzled what its impact will really be, for either homeopathics or other OTC items.

Hi,

Where would I find the rubric for this behaviour: poops in pants and sits
in it, doesn't annoy him one bit. Poop is, indeed, stinky! Client is 14
yrs old.

Thanks for the help.

Beth

Hi,
Does he realize that he has pooped in his pants?
Thanks,
Kotti

Beth wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Where would I find the rubric for this behaviour: poops in pants and
> sits in it, doesn't annoy him one bit. Poop is, indeed, stinky!
> Client is 14 yrs old.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Beth
>

YES! "But, I was too busy to come in or change my pants"

beth
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sridhar Kotti" <sridhar.kotti (AT) oracle (DOT) com>
To: "Beth" <bks (AT) sherbtel (DOT) net>
Cc: <homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [H] rubric help


> Hi,
> Does he realize that he has pooped in his pants?
> Thanks,
> Kotti
>
> Beth wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Where would I find the rubric for this behaviour: poops in pants and
>> sits in it, doesn't annoy him one bit. Poop is, indeed, stinky!
>> Client is 14 yrs old.
>>
>> Thanks for the help.
>>
>> Beth
>>

Mind
dirty - sitting or lying in feces
which refers you to
Mind
indifference to external things

At 01:36 PM 4/25/2007, Beth wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Where would I find the rubric for this behaviour: poops in pants
>and sits in it, doesn't annoy him one bit. Poop is, indeed,
>stinky! Client is 14 yrs old.
>
>Thanks for the help.
>
>Beth

Hi Beth,
What's your take on *why*? Is he "mentally slow", or filthy in
general, or liking the attention it gets, any thoughts?

Some possible rubrics might be:
Mind, Feces, passed on the floor: cupr, hyos, sulph
Mind, feces, rolls in his own filth: camph
Mind, feces, urinating and going to stool everywhere, children: sep,
sil, sulph

Do any of these resonate?
Best,
Shannon

On Apr 25, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Beth wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Where would I find the rubric for this behaviour: poops in pants and
> sits in it, doesn't annoy him one bit. Poop is, indeed, stinky!
> Client is 14 yrs old.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Beth
>

Sounds like a lame excuse to me! :-)
What is he like in other ways, what impression does he give?
Shannon

On Apr 25, 2007, at 10:20 PM, Beth wrote:

> YES! "But, I was too busy to come in or change my pants"
>
> beth
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sridhar Kotti"
> <sridhar.kotti (AT) oracle (DOT) com>
> To: "Beth" <bks (AT) sherbtel (DOT) net>
> Cc: <homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 2:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [H] rubric help
>
>
>> Hi,
>> Does he realize that he has pooped in his pants?
>> Thanks,
>> Kotti
>> Beth wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Where would I find the rubric for this behaviour: poops in pants
>>> and sits in it, doesn't annoy him one bit. Poop is, indeed,
>>> stinky! Client is 14 yrs old.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help.
>>>
>>> Beth
>>>

The FDA doesn't believe there is any medicinal substance in homeopathics
except when the substance is a scheduled substance (narcotic). Then,
son of a gun, they believe there might be something there.

Richard Knapp
EAS - Data Warehouse Group
University of Missouri
615 Locust Street #200
Columbia, MO 65201
573-882-8856
knappr (AT) umsystem (DOT) edu

-----Original Message-----
From: homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com
[mailto:homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com] On Behalf Of
homeolist (AT) otherhealth (DOT) com
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:03 AM
To: homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com
Subject: [H] Re: FDA Guidance for CAM Products and Regulation


With respect to homeopathics at least, they have been regulated by the
FDA _as_drugs_ in the US since the 1930s. Of course, FDA doesn't
believe there is any material substance in them, so its concern has been
purity of preparation via HPUS standards. So, this proposed guidance
(which should not be mistaken for regulation) has me a little puzzled
what its impact will really be, for either homeopathics or other OTC
items.


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Dillweed
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As you say, it's been the *preparation* they've codified, not the usage.
But now they are wanting to define "drug" as, "Anything used to treat a
specific symptom." Consider this is the context of other bills saying
that a supplement "may" be removed from the market if there is even a
single adverse event reported on it. (I think that one was defeated,
so far.) And consider that the wording of the paper is so broad as to
include even (literally) vegetable juice or prayer beads! *Would* they
try to prosecute anyone for "prescribing" veggie juice or prayer beads?
Hopefully not, but can it be a good sign that they're trying to claim
the *legal right*?

Being regulated is not the bad news--probably some further regulation
could be a good thing! The bad news is *who* would be the regulator,
and what their purposes and agendas are. And the FDA has not been a
friend to "natural" or "alternative" medicine.
Shannon

On Apr 17, 2007, at 9:03 AM, homeolist (AT) otherhealth (DOT) com wrote:

>
> With respect to homeopathics at least, they have been regulated by the
> FDA _as_drugs_ in the US since the 1930s. Of course, FDA doesn't
> believe there is any material substance in them, so its concern has
> been
> purity of preparation via HPUS standards. So, this proposed guidance
> (which should not be mistaken for regulation) has me a little puzzled
> what its impact will really be, for either homeopathics or other OTC
> items.
>
>
> --
> Dillweed
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> View this thread: FDA Guidance for CAM Products and Regulation
>
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