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Old 23rd January 2007, 05:55 PM
sherill
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A patient with genital herpes (and shingles) suppressed this ailment for
many years with allopathic meds. She has been off those meds for over 6
months now and is using a remedy in increasing potency for even more months.

She continues to get outbreaks and currently is getting them more often than
before. They are less severe, minimally painful to painless... they go soon
after a repeat of the remedy. She is frustrated with the frequency.

Her original depressive symptoms are not an issue any more, energy and well
being are very good.

Her husband has herpes and is not being homeopathically treated, but using
allopathic meds. Can any of the more experienced members comment on the
increasing frequency?

Thanks,
Sherill

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Old 23rd January 2007, 10:35 PM
MARIA T BOHLE
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Hi Sherill,

In my experience with herpes, a good remedy will bring it out for
the body to start to deal with it.

As a rule each succeeding erruption is less and less painful and lasts a
shorter and shorter period of time, then the erruptions look like they
are coming out and never get that far, then there is a period of time
when there are no erruptions - finally without warning a huge erruption
occurrs, one of the largest ones ever, as bad as the worst of them in the
past, but this goes away very quickly (one patient said it ws gone
within hours) and then we never see any erruptions any more. One patient
had huge outbreak happen twice, and then nothing after that.

Some of my clients have been erruption free for 6 or more years.
Is it completely gone? Who knows, but the body appears to be managing
it.

Each person will be a little different, the above is the average
way I see the homeopathic progression of herpes.

Sounds like you are doing a good job with this patient.

Warmly,

Maria Bohle,
Director & Principal
BIH USA




On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:09:57 -0700 "sherill" <sherill (AT) ecentral (DOT) com>
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>
> A patient with genital herpes (and shingles) suppressed this ailment
> for
> many years with allopathic meds. She has been off those meds for
> over 6
> months now and is using a remedy in increasing potency for even more
> months.
>
> She continues to get outbreaks and currently is getting them more
> often than
> before. They are less severe, minimally painful to painless... they
> go soon
> after a repeat of the remedy. She is frustrated with the frequency.
>
> Her original depressive symptoms are not an issue any more, energy
> and well
> being are very good.
>
> Her husband has herpes and is not being homeopathically treated, but
> using
> allopathic meds. Can any of the more experienced members comment on
> the
> increasing frequency?
>
> Thanks,
> Sherill
>
>
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Old 23rd January 2007, 10:55 PM
merrilee coblenz
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Hello Sherill
Frequently in these cases the frequency of returning complaints indicates that the miasm is not being addressed directly enough, or not at all. A dose of Psor high (200 or 1M) the day befor dosing with the appropriate remedy at the next outbreak and possibly for a further 2 to 3 outbreaks will stop the tendency. Please be sure that this is entirely a Psoric case and does not tend to Carc or Tub. My experience with Herpes is that the Psor nature of the case is what needs to be broken.

The rubric is covered under acute complaints recurrent.
merrilee

sherill <sherill (AT) ecentral (DOT) com> wrote:

A patient with genital herpes (and shingles) suppressed this ailment for
many years with allopathic meds. She has been off those meds for over 6
months now and is using a remedy in increasing potency for even more months.

She continues to get outbreaks and currently is getting them more often than
before. They are less severe, minimally painful to painless... they go soon
after a repeat of the remedy. She is frustrated with the frequency.

Her original depressive symptoms are not an issue any more, energy and well
being are very good.

Her husband has herpes and is not being homeopathically treated, but using
allopathic meds. Can any of the more experienced members comment on the
increasing frequency?

Thanks,
Sherill

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Old 23rd January 2007, 11:15 PM
sherill
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Oh! Interesting! I definitely would think that this ailment is more in the
sycotic miasm than Psoric. Can you help me understand you thinking?
Good rubric suggestion!
Thanks,
Sherill

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.... Please be sure that this is entirely a Psoric case and does not tend to
Carc or Tub. My experience with Herpes is that the Psor nature of the case
is what needs to be broken...

The rubric is covered under acute complaints recurrent.
merrilee



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Old 24th January 2007, 02:45 AM
merrilee coblenz
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Herpes being predominantly viral is multi miasmic putting it squarely into the Tub miasm.
The burning is psoric
the vesicle is sycotic
the vesicle to pustular is Tub
And the thick scabs and ulceration are syph.

To clear the case it is very important to know which miasm was present befor the innitial presentation of the herpes.

The recurrant attacks indicate both a low cutaneous local reacation if appearing in the same area of the body, and an overall resistance to the outside prcipitating cause eg. chronic rhinitis, debility, anxiety, stress, husband etc

Giving the constitutional nosode will help to eliminate the cause.
merrilee

sherill <sherill (AT) ecentral (DOT) com> wrote:
Oh! Interesting! I definitely would think that this ailment is more in the
sycotic miasm than Psoric. Can you help me understand you thinking?
Good rubric suggestion!
Thanks,
Sherill

-----Original Message-----


.... Please be sure that this is entirely a Psoric case and does not tend to
Carc or Tub. My experience with Herpes is that the Psor nature of the case
is what needs to be broken...

The rubric is covered under acute complaints recurrent.
merrilee



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Old 24th January 2007, 05:15 PM
merrilee coblenz
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The remedy Variolinum is a nosode -yes, anti-miasmic ......hmmm, we may need to define miasms and which remedies fit into those miasmic pictures and the appropriate nosode to all of them. Basically the miasm is the further destructive force over and above the illness which the patient suffers from. Therefore if this force is recognised and addressed in the remedy choice and in the use of the nosode it matters little whether the miasm has been recognised in the past as speciific to that disease name, or specifically defined as a miasm by our modern literature. So anti-miasmic it may certainly act.

This case as presented is clearly one of the complications of the dry dose method, the dry dose should be continued if the case is to come to a close, and not complicated further. Both the use of the appropriate nosode and/or rising potency of the appropriate remedy, while watching carefully for the necessary direction of cure, should do it.
merrilee

sherill <sherill (AT) ecentral (DOT) com> wrote:

Hi Sherill and Merrilee,

Yes, this is definitely interesting.

I think the nosode for herpes is Variolinum, have had several cases
that variolinum cured or broke the case loose and allowed for the indicated
remedy to work. . Makes me wonder if the old smallpox vaccinations in the
parents and grandparents predisposed this generation to herpetic outbreaks.
Herpes seem to be a major problem today.

Thanks Merrilee for opening my eyes to another option.

As far as dosing, how are you dosing? How frequently?

I tend to use aqueous dilutions (the way David Little taught me many moons
ago) and dose as frequently as needed.
A good remedy always tends to bring the virus up in my experience.

Warmly, Maria



On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:04:40 -0700 "sherill"
writes:
> Oh! Interesting! I definitely would think that this ailment is more
> in the
> sycotic miasm than Psoric. Can you help me understand you thinking?
>
> Good rubric suggestion!
> Thanks,
> Sherill
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> ... Please be sure that this is entirely a Psoric case and does not
> tend to
> Carc or Tub. My experience with Herpes is that the Psor nature of
> the case
> is what needs to be broken...
>
> The rubric is covered under acute complaints recurrent.
> merrilee
>
>
>
>
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Old 24th January 2007, 10:45 PM
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Hi Merilee ~
Just for clarification, this is not a case using dry doses, but aqueous
solution. Sorry if I did not make that clear.

Sherill

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....... This case as presented is clearly one of the complications of the dry
dose method

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Old 25th January 2007, 01:05 AM
merrilee coblenz
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Then the healing as described by Maria will hold true, thanks for clarifying.
merrilee

sherill <sherill (AT) ecentral (DOT) com> wrote:
Hi Merilee ~
Just for clarification, this is not a case using dry doses, but aqueous
solution. Sorry if I did not make that clear.

Sherill

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From: homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com
[mailto:homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com] On Behalf Of merrilee coblenz
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 9:56 AM
To: home
Subject: RE: [H] case management

....... This case as presented is clearly one of the complications of the dry
dose method

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Old 25th January 2007, 01:45 AM
merrilee coblenz
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Wet dosing only with the acute attacks? can you please clarify the statement below, it was this that led to me thinking it was dry dosing.

Maria can you comment here please, my understanding and experience with wet dosing is very different to what is written here
thanks
merrilee


She continues to get outbreaks and currently is getting them more often than
before. They are less severe, minimally painful to painless... they go soon
after a repeat of the remedy. She is frustrated with the frequency.



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Old 25th January 2007, 05:55 PM
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I realize you asked Maria ~ but aqueous doses can be used in many ways...
Sherill




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