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Old 24th August 2006, 06:05 PM
Monika Pusztai-Pinter
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Hi everybody!

I'm mostly just watching what is going on here, but now some help
would be highly appreciated:

My older son's cat - a male - was lost for some months, and he is now
back but in a very bad condition. He told me, that the cat was very
limp, could not stand, wouldn't eat or drink. He took him to the vet,
and he told him the cat has a kidney problem (my son just didn't
remembered exactly what was said then). The vet gave the cat a vitamin
shot and sent him home. It was 2 days ago. I told him to try giving
the cat some raw meat, liver, or heart, what he did, and called me
back, that the cat is eating some of it.
Today I was out of town, but now he called me, in a desperate voice,
that the cat was in such a bad condition, that he took him back to the
vet, and the vet wanted to send him to sleep. The cat has a kidney
problem - that is all I know now, and is not eating, drinkint or
moving. He is just lyeing and - still - breathing.

What remedy should we try? One thing: yesterday the cat was eating
some meat on its own, and urinating in inappropriate places, for eg.
under himself and sitting there. And sometimes he went to my son and
meowed loudly.

Please send my some suggestion. The only thing I could came up is Lyc.
Is it OK, or there is a better remedy?
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Old 24th August 2006, 10:47 PM
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So so sorry to hear this. I would suggest no remedies unless you can get to, or speak to a homeopathic Vet. Animals cannot tell us how they feel or about any reaction they experience. Bach Rescue Remedy behind the ears may help a little ..It sounds as if the poor little chap might be in a lot of pain. If he has been starved...care with diet needed if he recovers. If you don't know where he has been may have been kicked or injured..but assume Vet checked for that.
If there is kidney damage / breakdown associated pain is probably the worse that can be experienced....which is possibly why the Vet wanted to 'send him to sleep'. Please don't dabble with remedies unless you have clear diagnosis from Vet. You may need to let him go...but cats can have amazing powers of recovery! Hope so!
Some Vets use Acupuncture (with or without homeopathy..)..that could help.
Interestingly I had a (human female!) case where Lycopodium cleared a bladder/kidney infection very rapidly. You maybe on the right track...but please be guided by your Vet.
You may be aware that in UK it is illegal for 'human' homeopaths to treat animals other than their own.
Good luck...I do hope he will be OK for you
S
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Old 25th August 2006, 10:27 AM
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You do not have much time and if you feel Lyc is the right remedy give it but not too high potency. Often Canth is used for that as well in particular if there is burning pain but again difficult with animals. Are there blood in the urine?

Mose
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Old 25th August 2006, 01:26 PM
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Monika,

It sounds like the cat may be in kidney failure. It may be acute or chronic,
and that makes a big difference as far as prognosis. IV fluid therapy is
crucial and I would suggest the remedy chininum arsenicosum for initial use
to try to get the cat through the crisis. After he has improved another
remedy may be needed but for starters that would be an excellent choice.
There is also a supplement made by standard process called feline renal
support that would be of help as well.
Good luck to the kitty!


James E. Schacht DVM
Certified Veterinary Homeopath
Commonwealth Animal Hospital
704-370-0767
fax:704-372-8939
www.commonwealthanimalhospital.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Monika Pusztai-Pinter" <ppmoni (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
To: <homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com>
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 1:57 PM
Subject: [H] Urgent help needed for cat!


> Hi everybody!
>
> I'm mostly just watching what is going on here, but now some help
> would be highly appreciated:
>
> My older son's cat - a male - was lost for some months, and he is now
> back but in a very bad condition. He told me, that the cat was very
> limp, could not stand, wouldn't eat or drink. He took him to the vet,
> and he told him the cat has a kidney problem (my son just didn't
> remembered exactly what was said then). The vet gave the cat a vitamin
> shot and sent him home. It was 2 days ago. I told him to try giving
> the cat some raw meat, liver, or heart, what he did, and called me
> back, that the cat is eating some of it.
> Today I was out of town, but now he called me, in a desperate voice,
> that the cat was in such a bad condition, that he took him back to the
> vet, and the vet wanted to send him to sleep. The cat has a kidney
> problem - that is all I know now, and is not eating, drinkint or
> moving. He is just lyeing and - still - breathing.
>
> What remedy should we try? One thing: yesterday the cat was eating
> some meat on its own, and urinating in inappropriate places, for eg.
> under himself and sitting there. And sometimes he went to my son and
> meowed loudly.
>
> Please send my some suggestion. The only thing I could came up is Lyc.
> Is it OK, or there is a better remedy?
>
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Old 25th August 2006, 01:55 PM
Robert & Shannon Nelson
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Dr. Schacht,
Could you say a bit about why the remedy comes to mind? Reading
briefly, I see that it's strongly connected with weakness and
prostration; but why else does it come to your mind for this case?
Thanks!
Shannon

On Aug 25, 2006, at 8:22 AM, Commonwealth Animal Hospital wrote:

> Monika,
>
> It sounds like the cat may be in kidney failure. It may be acute or
> chronic, and that makes a big difference as far as prognosis. IV fluid
> therapy is crucial and I would suggest the remedy chininum arsenicosum
> for initial use to try to get the cat through the crisis. After he has
> improved another remedy may be needed but for starters that would be
> an excellent choice. There is also a supplement made by standard
> process called feline renal support that would be of help as well.
> Good luck to the kitty!
>
>
> James E. Schacht DVM
> Certified Veterinary Homeopath
> Commonwealth Animal Hospital
> 704-370-0767
> fax:704-372-8939
> www.commonwealthanimalhospital.net
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monika Pusztai-Pinter"
> <ppmoni (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
> To: <homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 1:57 PM
> Subject: [H] Urgent help needed for cat!
>
>
>> Hi everybody!
>>
>> I'm mostly just watching what is going on here, but now some help
>> would be highly appreciated:
>>
>> My older son's cat - a male - was lost for some months, and he is now
>> back but in a very bad condition. He told me, that the cat was very
>> limp, could not stand, wouldn't eat or drink. He took him to the vet,
>> and he told him the cat has a kidney problem (my son just didn't
>> remembered exactly what was said then). The vet gave the cat a vitamin
>> shot and sent him home. It was 2 days ago. I told him to try giving
>> the cat some raw meat, liver, or heart, what he did, and called me
>> back, that the cat is eating some of it.
>> Today I was out of town, but now he called me, in a desperate voice,
>> that the cat was in such a bad condition, that he took him back to the
>> vet, and the vet wanted to send him to sleep. The cat has a kidney
>> problem - that is all I know now, and is not eating, drinkint or
>> moving. He is just lyeing and - still - breathing.
>>
>> What remedy should we try? One thing: yesterday the cat was eating
>> some meat on its own, and urinating in inappropriate places, for eg.
>> under himself and sitting there. And sometimes he went to my son and
>> meowed loudly.
>>
>> Please send my some suggestion. The only thing I could came up is Lyc.
>> Is it OK, or there is a better remedy?
>>
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Old 25th August 2006, 07:55 PM
Commonwealth Animal Hospital
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Shannon,

As you stated, it is a great remedy for weakness and prostration, especially
with heavy loss of fluid, which is what happens in kidney failure. Often
times people mistakenly think that the kidneys shut down and produce no
urine when there is kidney failure, but this is only true in acute renal
failure. Chronic renal failure is far and away more common in cats and the
kidneys produce copious, dilute urine, resulting in dehydration and
debility. If I have a known constitutional remedy I will use that in renal
failure, but often times the cats come in for the first time with kidney
failure and ch. ars has proven to be a great remedy to improve the condition
of these poor cats.


James E. Schacht DVM
Certified Veterinary Homeopath
Commonwealth Animal Hospital
704-370-0767
fax:704-372-8939
www.commonwealthanimalhospital.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert & Shannon Nelson" <shannonnelson (AT) tds (DOT) net>
To: <homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com>
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [H] Urgent help needed for cat!


> Dr. Schacht,
> Could you say a bit about why the remedy comes to mind? Reading briefly,
> I see that it's strongly connected with weakness and prostration; but why
> else does it come to your mind for this case?
> Thanks!
> Shannon
>
> On Aug 25, 2006, at 8:22 AM, Commonwealth Animal Hospital wrote:
>
>> Monika,
>>
>> It sounds like the cat may be in kidney failure. It may be acute or
>> chronic, and that makes a big difference as far as prognosis. IV fluid
>> therapy is crucial and I would suggest the remedy chininum arsenicosum
>> for initial use to try to get the cat through the crisis. After he has
>> improved another remedy may be needed but for starters that would be an
>> excellent choice. There is also a supplement made by standard process
>> called feline renal support that would be of help as well.
>> Good luck to the kitty!
>>
>>
>> James E. Schacht DVM
>> Certified Veterinary Homeopath
>> Commonwealth Animal Hospital
>> 704-370-0767
>> fax:704-372-8939
>> www.commonwealthanimalhospital.net
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monika Pusztai-Pinter"
>> <ppmoni (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
>> To: <homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 1:57 PM
>> Subject: [H] Urgent help needed for cat!
>>
>>
>>> Hi everybody!
>>>
>>> I'm mostly just watching what is going on here, but now some help
>>> would be highly appreciated:
>>>
>>> My older son's cat - a male - was lost for some months, and he is now
>>> back but in a very bad condition. He told me, that the cat was very
>>> limp, could not stand, wouldn't eat or drink. He took him to the vet,
>>> and he told him the cat has a kidney problem (my son just didn't
>>> remembered exactly what was said then). The vet gave the cat a vitamin
>>> shot and sent him home. It was 2 days ago. I told him to try giving
>>> the cat some raw meat, liver, or heart, what he did, and called me
>>> back, that the cat is eating some of it.
>>> Today I was out of town, but now he called me, in a desperate voice,
>>> that the cat was in such a bad condition, that he took him back to the
>>> vet, and the vet wanted to send him to sleep. The cat has a kidney
>>> problem - that is all I know now, and is not eating, drinkint or
>>> moving. He is just lyeing and - still - breathing.
>>>
>>> What remedy should we try? One thing: yesterday the cat was eating
>>> some meat on its own, and urinating in inappropriate places, for eg.
>>> under himself and sitting there. And sometimes he went to my son and
>>> meowed loudly.
>>>
>>> Please send my some suggestion. The only thing I could came up is Lyc.
>>> Is it OK, or there is a better remedy?
>>>
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