This is about a dog rather than a person, but am hoping folks might
have ideas.

This is a 12-year-old dog who has had health problems in the past, but
for the past few months has been doing very well (in context).
Saturday evening she suddenly jumped up as if startled, vomited and
urinated, spent a minute or so walking in circles, then staggered off
to another place and lay down again, looking "confused". From that
point she grew rapidly weaker, until at times she has been unable to
stand (tho at other times is able to stagger around reasonably
successfully). Over the next hour or so her right eyelid began an
rhythmic twitch or tic, drawing upward as tho a string tied near the
middle of her upper eyelid, going about one tic per second, or a bit
faster. Later her head also began to move slightly in a similar
rhythm. By now, about 36 hours later, she seems stronger, is
staggering to where she wants to go fairly well, but extremely
uncoordinated, and it seems as tho her balance is off too.

Sometimes she drinks, but vomits it up again within a few minutes;
sometimes she vomits froth, and sometimes deep yellow liquid.

I don't think there is any poison around that she could have eaten, and
I think this is something internal (even brain tumor???), but am very
interested in any thoughts!

Over the past few months she has had episodes of jumping up from a rest
as tho startled. She would then look around with a sort of exasperated
expression, then lie back down. This has been just every now and then,
perhaps a few times a week recently.

Frankly I've been expecting her to die "any day now" for about the past
year (tho for my of that time she's been perky and energetic), and am
having a hard time finding my right "place" with this episode. My
*feeling* is that it's perhaps her time to go, and my main inclination
is to keep her happy until she passes. But I also would love to
understand what might be happening. Anyone here seen anything like
this?
Thanks for any thoughts!
Shannon

The circling and confusion is the sort of behaviour you get when a dog
has a stroke and the first twenty-four hours after the stroke are
normally the worst with some co-ordination coming back after that.

Kerry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com [mailto:homeopathy-
> bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Robert & Shannon Nelson
> Sent: 05 June 2006 14:43
> To: homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com
> Subject: [H] Sudden illness
>
> This is about a dog rather than a person, but am hoping folks might
> have ideas.
>
> This is a 12-year-old dog who has had health problems in the past, but
> for the past few months has been doing very well (in context).
> Saturday evening she suddenly jumped up as if startled, vomited and
> urinated, spent a minute or so walking in circles, then staggered off
> to another place and lay down again, looking "confused". From that
> point she grew rapidly weaker, until at times she has been unable to
> stand (tho at other times is able to stagger around reasonably
> successfully). Over the next hour or so her right eyelid began an
> rhythmic twitch or tic, drawing upward as tho a string tied near the
> middle of her upper eyelid, going about one tic per second, or a bit
> faster. Later her head also began to move slightly in a similar
> rhythm. By now, about 36 hours later, she seems stronger, is
> staggering to where she wants to go fairly well, but extremely
> uncoordinated, and it seems as tho her balance is off too.
>
> Sometimes she drinks, but vomits it up again within a few minutes;
> sometimes she vomits froth, and sometimes deep yellow liquid.
>
> I don't think there is any poison around that she could have eaten,
and
> I think this is something internal (even brain tumor???), but am very
> interested in any thoughts!
>
> Over the past few months she has had episodes of jumping up from a
rest
> as tho startled. She would then look around with a sort of
exasperated
> expression, then lie back down. This has been just every now and
then,
> perhaps a few times a week recently.
>
> Frankly I've been expecting her to die "any day now" for about the
past
> year (tho for my of that time she's been perky and energetic), and am
> having a hard time finding my right "place" with this episode. My
> *feeling* is that it's perhaps her time to go, and my main inclination
> is to keep her happy until she passes. But I also would love to
> understand what might be happening. Anyone here seen anything like
> this?
> Thanks for any thoughts!
> Shannon
>


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Ah, thanks.
Might that relate to the eye tic and vomiting too?
Shannon

On Jun 5, 2006, at 9:14 AM, Kerry wrote:

> The circling and confusion is the sort of behaviour you get when a dog
> has a stroke and the first twenty-four hours after the stroke are
> normally the worst with some co-ordination coming back after that.
>
> Kerry
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com [mailto:homeopathy-
>> bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Robert & Shannon Nelson
>> Sent: 05 June 2006 14:43
>> To: homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com
>> Subject: [H] Sudden illness
>>
>> This is about a dog rather than a person, but am hoping folks might
>> have ideas.
>>
>> This is a 12-year-old dog who has had health problems in the past, but
>> for the past few months has been doing very well (in context).
>> Saturday evening she suddenly jumped up as if startled, vomited and
>> urinated, spent a minute or so walking in circles, then staggered off
>> to another place and lay down again, looking "confused". From that
>> point she grew rapidly weaker, until at times she has been unable to
>> stand (tho at other times is able to stagger around reasonably
>> successfully). Over the next hour or so her right eyelid began an
>> rhythmic twitch or tic, drawing upward as tho a string tied near the
>> middle of her upper eyelid, going about one tic per second, or a bit
>> faster. Later her head also began to move slightly in a similar
>> rhythm. By now, about 36 hours later, she seems stronger, is
>> staggering to where she wants to go fairly well, but extremely
>> uncoordinated, and it seems as tho her balance is off too.
>>
>> Sometimes she drinks, but vomits it up again within a few minutes;
>> sometimes she vomits froth, and sometimes deep yellow liquid.
>>
>> I don't think there is any poison around that she could have eaten,
> and
>> I think this is something internal (even brain tumor???), but am very
>> interested in any thoughts!
>>
>> Over the past few months she has had episodes of jumping up from a
> rest
>> as tho startled. She would then look around with a sort of
> exasperated
>> expression, then lie back down. This has been just every now and
> then,
>> perhaps a few times a week recently.
>>
>> Frankly I've been expecting her to die "any day now" for about the
> past
>> year (tho for my of that time she's been perky and energetic), and am
>> having a hard time finding my right "place" with this episode. My
>> *feeling* is that it's perhaps her time to go, and my main inclination
>> is to keep her happy until she passes. But I also would love to
>> understand what might be happening. Anyone here seen anything like
>> this?
>> Thanks for any thoughts!
>> Shannon
>>
>
>
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The eye tick could certainly be related but I am not certain regards the
vomiting. The vomiting did not occur with the dog that I had that
suffered from a stroke.

Kerry

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> From: homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com [mailto:homeopathy-
> bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Robert & Shannon Nelson
> Sent: 05 June 2006 15:32
> To: homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com
> Subject: Re: [H] Sudden illness
>
> Ah, thanks.
> Might that relate to the eye tic and vomiting too?
> Shannon
>
> On Jun 5, 2006, at 9:14 AM, Kerry wrote:
>
> > The circling and confusion is the sort of behaviour you get when a
dog
> > has a stroke and the first twenty-four hours after the stroke are
> > normally the worst with some co-ordination coming back after that.
> >
> > Kerry


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One further thought Shannon: why don't you take the dog to the vet and
ask what the vet thinks it is? Despite the fact that I use homeopathy
extensively for my animals, I will still seek the advice of a vet. They
are trained to understand the different diseases and even though I don't
follow their treatment, I do like to have the opinion of a vet so as to
know what exactly I am looking at and to have an idea of possible
outcome. I still treat by individual symptoms but understanding the
disease might help narrow my choices of rubrics.

Kerry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com [mailto:homeopathy-
> bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Kerry
> Sent: 05 June 2006 15:14
> To: homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com
> Subject: RE: [H] Sudden illness
>
> The circling and confusion is the sort of behaviour you get when a dog
> has a stroke and the first twenty-four hours after the stroke are
> normally the worst with some co-ordination coming back after that.
>
> Kerry
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: homeopathy-bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com [mailto:homeopathy-
> > bounces (AT) homeolist (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Robert & Shannon Nelson
> > Sent: 05 June 2006 14:43
> > To: homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com
> > Subject: [H] Sudden illness
> >
> > This is about a dog rather than a person, but am hoping folks might
> > have ideas.
> >
> > This is a 12-year-old dog who has had health problems in the past,
but
> > for the past few months has been doing very well (in context).
> > Saturday evening she suddenly jumped up as if startled, vomited and
> > urinated, spent a minute or so walking in circles, then staggered
off
> > to another place and lay down again, looking "confused". From that
> > point she grew rapidly weaker, until at times she has been unable to
> > stand (tho at other times is able to stagger around reasonably
> > successfully). Over the next hour or so her right eyelid began an
> > rhythmic twitch or tic, drawing upward as tho a string tied near the
> > middle of her upper eyelid, going about one tic per second, or a bit
> > faster. Later her head also began to move slightly in a similar
> > rhythm. By now, about 36 hours later, she seems stronger, is
> > staggering to where she wants to go fairly well, but extremely
> > uncoordinated, and it seems as tho her balance is off too.
> >
> > Sometimes she drinks, but vomits it up again within a few minutes;
> > sometimes she vomits froth, and sometimes deep yellow liquid.
> >
> > I don't think there is any poison around that she could have eaten,
> and
> > I think this is something internal (even brain tumor???), but am
very
> > interested in any thoughts!
> >
> > Over the past few months she has had episodes of jumping up from a
> rest
> > as tho startled. She would then look around with a sort of
> exasperated
> > expression, then lie back down. This has been just every now and
> then,
> > perhaps a few times a week recently.
> >
> > Frankly I've been expecting her to die "any day now" for about the
> past
> > year (tho for my of that time she's been perky and energetic), and
am
> > having a hard time finding my right "place" with this episode. My
> > *feeling* is that it's perhaps her time to go, and my main
inclination
> > is to keep her happy until she passes. But I also would love to
> > understand what might be happening. Anyone here seen anything like
> > this?
> > Thanks for any thoughts!
> > Shannon
> >
>
>
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Vets do not understand everything ,specially when it comes to injecting dangerous vaccines into our animals. They will deny adverse effects from these toxic chemicals,just go ahead and try......ask your vet "could it be from the shots you gave him?".........he will NO doubt say "of course not".
here is a website for holistic animal care and the dangers of vaccines for our pets www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com
Gina Tyler

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"Great ideas often recieve violent opposition from mediocre minds"...................Einstein

I certainly don't dispute the fact that vets don't understand everything
but we are certainly not being fair to an animal by standing back and
not taking it through to a vet when we have no idea what the problem is.
Yes vets promote vaccines and they also promote drugs and what I deem to
be inappropriate food but we can't deny that they are a lot better
trained than the lay person to recognize the different types of disease.
As with anything we take the good (diagnoses) and refuse the bad
(vaccines, drugs). And if we don't agree with the diagnoses then we get
a second opinion. .

Kerry



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> To: homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com
> Subject: [H] Re: Sudden illness
>
>
> Vets do not understand everything ,specially when it comes to
injecting
> dangerous vaccines into our animals. They will deny adverse effects
> from these toxic chemicals,just go ahead and try......ask your vet
> "could it be from the shots you gave him?".........he will NO doubt
> say "of course not".
> here is a website for holistic animal care and the dangers of vaccines
> for our pets 'www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com'
> (http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com)
> Gina Tyler
>
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