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Old 30th May 2006, 07:25 PM
Sheri Nakken
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Default Golden & 'vaccination' remedies..........

this is from this article - not sure if this is still his protocol
I find this terrifying

http://www.lyghtforce.com/Homeopathy...ext/golden.htm

>From this article..............(my questions after.........)


Isaac Golden says.........
Table 1 describes the program I am currently using, and Table 2 summarises
my accumulated results to date:

Table 1:
A Homoeopathic Preventative Program
Against Infectious Diseases

Age Recommended Remedy Potency
1 month Pertussin 200
2 months Pertussin 200, M, 10M
4 months Lathyrus Sativus 200
5 months Lathyrus Sativus 200, M, 10M
6 months Haemophilis M
7 months Haemophilis M, M, M
9 months Diphtherinum 200
10 months Diphtherinum 200, M, 10M
11 months Tetanus Toxin 200
12 months Tetanus Toxin 200, M, 10M
13 months Pertussin 200, M, 10M
14 months Morbillinum 200
15 months Morbillinum 200, M, 10M
16 months Lathyrus Sativus 200, M, 10M
17 months Haemophilis M, M, M
19 months Parotidinum 200
20 months Parotidinum 200, M, 10M
22 months Diphtherinum 200, M, 10M
24 months Tetanus Toxin 200, M, 10M
26 months Lathyrus Sativus 200, M, 10M
28 months Haemophilis M, M, M
32 months Pertussin 200, M, 10M
41 months Tetanus Toxin 200, M, 10M
46 months Haemophilis M, M, M
50 months Diphtherinum 200, M, 10M
54 months Morbillinum 200, M, 10M
56 months Lathyrus Sativus 200, M, 10M
60 months Tetanus Toxin 200, M, 10M
Remedy-Disease Relationship: Pertussin -- Whooping Cough; Tetanus Toxin --
Tetanus; Parotidinum -- Mumps; Haemophilis -- Hib Influenzae; Lathyrus
Sativus – Polio; Diphtherinum – Diphtheria; Morbillinum -- Measles:

******
Questions to think about or answer if inclined

1. How many of the above nosodes are of 'diseases' that are communicable?
Which ones?
2. How many are even an issue today in US/UK/Australia/Canada/NZ/W. Europe
etc. I don't know India and don't pretend to speak for India. But I do
know there is a lot of disease propaganda there also to sell vaccine.
3. What children are at risk for Haemophilis Influenza meningitis?
4. Much about polio was propaganda for a variety of reasons, one of which
was to sell vaccine? What are some other reasons that you know of that
were exciting causes for so-called polio? What about poliomyelitis being
caused by pesticides and other toxins?
5. What other 'diseases' are the same as polio but have different names?
6. Who is more at risk for complications of pertussis (age?)
7. Tell me what test there is to diagnose tetanus in a person?
8. Where is tetanus? Which climates are more at risk?
9. What were the death rates from the above diseases in the 'vaccination'
chart before the allopathic vaccinations came out?
10. Why is a girl at risk and needing mumps 'vaccine'? For that matter
why is a boy? What is the true risk of sterility?
11. Why is a boy at risk and needing rubella 'vaccine'?
13. What is the reality of measles for relatively healthy children?
14. What epidemics are we at risk for in US/UK/Australia/Canada/NZ/W.
Europe etc. What is even at all likely?

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Old 31st May 2006, 04:05 AM
Robert & Shannon Nelson
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Default Re: Golden & 'vaccination' remedies..........

He said more recently that he has given either the whole program or
only parts, according to the parents' preference. I also thought it
sounded awful--but would rather read the study before passing judgment.
(It's on my list...)
Shannon

On May 30, 2006, at 2:22 PM, Sheri Nakken wrote:

> this is from this article - not sure if this is still his protocol
> I find this terrifying
>
> http://www.lyghtforce.com/Homeopathy...ext/golden.htm
>
>> From this article..............(my questions after.........)

>
> Isaac Golden says.........
> Table 1 describes the program I am currently using, and Table 2
> summarises
> my accumulated results to date:
>
> Table 1:
> A Homoeopathic Preventative Program
> Against Infectious Diseases
>
> Age Recommended Remedy Potency
> 1 month Pertussin 200
> 2 months Pertussin 200, M, 10M
> 4 months Lathyrus Sativus 200
> 5 months Lathyrus Sativus 200, M, 10M
> 6 months Haemophilis M
> 7 months Haemophilis M, M, M
> 9 months Diphtherinum 200
> 10 months Diphtherinum 200, M, 10M
> 11 months Tetanus Toxin 200
> 12 months Tetanus Toxin 200, M, 10M
> 13 months Pertussin 200, M, 10M
> 14 months Morbillinum 200
> 15 months Morbillinum 200, M, 10M
> 16 months Lathyrus Sativus 200, M, 10M
> 17 months Haemophilis M, M, M
> 19 months Parotidinum 200
> 20 months Parotidinum 200, M, 10M
> 22 months Diphtherinum 200, M, 10M
> 24 months Tetanus Toxin 200, M, 10M
> 26 months Lathyrus Sativus 200, M, 10M
> 28 months Haemophilis M, M, M
> 32 months Pertussin 200, M, 10M
> 41 months Tetanus Toxin 200, M, 10M
> 46 months Haemophilis M, M, M
> 50 months Diphtherinum 200, M, 10M
> 54 months Morbillinum 200, M, 10M
> 56 months Lathyrus Sativus 200, M, 10M
> 60 months Tetanus Toxin 200, M, 10M
> Remedy-Disease Relationship: Pertussin -- Whooping Cough; Tetanus
> Toxin --
> Tetanus; Parotidinum -- Mumps; Haemophilis -- Hib Influenzae; Lathyrus
> Sativus – Polio; Diphtherinum – Diphtheria; Morbillinum -- Measles:
>
> ******
> Questions to think about or answer if inclined
>
> 1. How many of the above nosodes are of 'diseases' that are
> communicable?
> Which ones?
> 2. How many are even an issue today in US/UK/Australia/Canada/NZ/W.
> Europe
> etc. I don't know India and don't pretend to speak for India. But I
> do
> know there is a lot of disease propaganda there also to sell vaccine.
> 3. What children are at risk for Haemophilis Influenza meningitis?
> 4. Much about polio was propaganda for a variety of reasons, one of
> which
> was to sell vaccine? What are some other reasons that you know of that
> were exciting causes for so-called polio? What about poliomyelitis
> being
> caused by pesticides and other toxins?
> 5. What other 'diseases' are the same as polio but have different
> names?
> 6. Who is more at risk for complications of pertussis (age?)
> 7. Tell me what test there is to diagnose tetanus in a person?
> 8. Where is tetanus? Which climates are more at risk?
> 9. What were the death rates from the above diseases in the
> 'vaccination'
> chart before the allopathic vaccinations came out?
> 10. Why is a girl at risk and needing mumps 'vaccine'? For that
> matter
> why is a boy? What is the true risk of sterility?
> 11. Why is a boy at risk and needing rubella 'vaccine'?
> 13. What is the reality of measles for relatively healthy children?
> 14. What epidemics are we at risk for in US/UK/Australia/Canada/NZ/W.
> Europe etc. What is even at all likely?
>
>
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Old 31st May 2006, 02:25 PM
tnewman@everestkc.net
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Default Re: Golden & 'vaccination' remedies..........

Part of what I have been taught is that getting the childhood diseases (when you are a child) is a GOOD thing, and that the disease process helps the body to clear miasms that were present at birth, etc. Why use homeopathic prophylaxis to prevent this process, unless the child is so sickly that getting the disease would be truly dangerous?

Tracy

----- Original Message -----
From: Robert & Shannon Nelson <shannonnelson (AT) tds (DOT) net>
Date: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 10:58 pm
Subject: Re: [H] Golden & 'vaccination' remedies..........

> He said more recently that he has given either the whole program
> or
> only parts, according to the parents' preference. I also thought
> it
> sounded awful--but would rather read the study before passing
> judgment.
> (It's on my list...)
> Shannon
>
> On May 30, 2006, at 2:22 PM, Sheri Nakken wrote:
>
> > this is from this article - not sure if this is still his protocol
> > I find this terrifying
> >
> > http://www.lyghtforce.com/Homeopathy...ext/golden.htm
> >
> >> From this article..............(my questions after.........)

> >
> > Isaac Golden says.........
> > Table 1 describes the program I am currently using, and Table 2
> > summarises
> > my accumulated results to date:
> >
> > Table 1:
> > A Homoeopathic Preventative Program
> > Against Infectious Diseases
> >
> > Age Recommended Remedy Potency
> > 1 month Pertussin 200
> > 2 months Pertussin 200, M, 10M
> > 4 months Lathyrus Sativus 200
> > 5 months Lathyrus Sativus 200, M, 10M
> > 6 months Haemophilis M
> > 7 months Haemophilis M, M, M
> > 9 months Diphtherinum 200
> > 10 months Diphtherinum 200, M, 10M
> > 11 months Tetanus Toxin 200
> > 12 months Tetanus Toxin 200, M, 10M
> > 13 months Pertussin 200, M, 10M
> > 14 months Morbillinum 200
> > 15 months Morbillinum 200, M, 10M
> > 16 months Lathyrus Sativus 200, M, 10M
> > 17 months Haemophilis M, M, M
> > 19 months Parotidinum 200
> > 20 months Parotidinum 200, M, 10M
> > 22 months Diphtherinum 200, M, 10M
> > 24 months Tetanus Toxin 200, M, 10M
> > 26 months Lathyrus Sativus 200, M, 10M
> > 28 months Haemophilis M, M, M
> > 32 months Pertussin 200, M, 10M
> > 41 months Tetanus Toxin 200, M, 10M
> > 46 months Haemophilis M, M, M
> > 50 months Diphtherinum 200, M, 10M
> > 54 months Morbillinum 200, M, 10M
> > 56 months Lathyrus Sativus 200, M, 10M
> > 60 months Tetanus Toxin 200, M, 10M
> > Remedy-Disease Relationship: Pertussin -- Whooping Cough;

> Tetanus
> > Toxin --
> > Tetanus; Parotidinum -- Mumps; Haemophilis -- Hib Influenzae;

> Lathyrus> Sativus – Polio; Diphtherinum – Diphtheria; Morbillinum -
> - Measles:
> >
> > ******
> > Questions to think about or answer if inclined
> >
> > 1. How many of the above nosodes are of 'diseases' that are
> > communicable?
> > Which ones?
> > 2. How many are even an issue today in

> US/UK/Australia/Canada/NZ/W.
> > Europe
> > etc. I don't know India and don't pretend to speak for India.

> But I
> > do
> > know there is a lot of disease propaganda there also to sell

> vaccine.> 3. What children are at risk for Haemophilis Influenza
> meningitis?> 4. Much about polio was propaganda for a variety of
> reasons, one of
> > which
> > was to sell vaccine? What are some other reasons that you know

> of that
> > were exciting causes for so-called polio? What about

> poliomyelitis
> > being
> > caused by pesticides and other toxins?
> > 5. What other 'diseases' are the same as polio but have

> different
> > names?
> > 6. Who is more at risk for complications of pertussis (age?)
> > 7. Tell me what test there is to diagnose tetanus in a person?
> > 8. Where is tetanus? Which climates are more at risk?
> > 9. What were the death rates from the above diseases in the
> > 'vaccination'
> > chart before the allopathic vaccinations came out?
> > 10. Why is a girl at risk and needing mumps 'vaccine'? For

> that
> > matter
> > why is a boy? What is the true risk of sterility?
> > 11. Why is a boy at risk and needing rubella 'vaccine'?
> > 13. What is the reality of measles for relatively healthy children?
> > 14. What epidemics are we at risk for in

> US/UK/Australia/Canada/NZ/W.> Europe etc. What is even at all likely?
> >
> >
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Old 31st May 2006, 03:05 PM
Robert & Shannon Nelson
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Default Re: Golden & 'vaccination' remedies..........

Frankly, that's been my starting point, too.
But I was impressed by what Isaac told us on the list (this or
another?) last year. I think I have to just read it...
Shannon

On May 31, 2006, at 9:15 AM, tnewman (AT) everestkc (DOT) net wrote:

> Part of what I have been taught is that getting the childhood diseases
> (when you are a child) is a GOOD thing, and that the disease process
> helps the body to clear miasms that were present at birth, etc. Why
> use homeopathic prophylaxis to prevent this process, unless the child
> is so sickly that getting the disease would be truly dangerous?
>
> Tracy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert & Shannon Nelson <shannonnelson (AT) tds (DOT) net>
> Date: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 10:58 pm
> Subject: Re: [H] Golden & 'vaccination' remedies..........
>
>> He said more recently that he has given either the whole program
>> or
>> only parts, according to the parents' preference. I also thought
>> it
>> sounded awful--but would rather read the study before passing
>> judgment.
>> (It's on my list...)
>> Shannon
>>
>> On May 30, 2006, at 2:22 PM, Sheri Nakken wrote:
>>
>>> this is from this article - not sure if this is still his protocol
>>> I find this terrifying
>>>
>>> http://www.lyghtforce.com/Homeopathy...ext/golden.htm
>>>
>>>> From this article..............(my questions after.........)
>>>
>>> Isaac Golden says.........
>>> Table 1 describes the program I am currently using, and Table 2
>>> summarises
>>> my accumulated results to date:
>>>
>>> Table 1:
>>> A Homoeopathic Preventative Program
>>> Against Infectious Diseases
>>>
>>> Age Recommended Remedy Potency
>>> 1 month Pertussin 200
>>> 2 months Pertussin 200, M, 10M
>>> 4 months Lathyrus Sativus 200
>>> 5 months Lathyrus Sativus 200, M, 10M
>>> 6 months Haemophilis M
>>> 7 months Haemophilis M, M, M
>>> 9 months Diphtherinum 200
>>> 10 months Diphtherinum 200, M, 10M
>>> 11 months Tetanus Toxin 200
>>> 12 months Tetanus Toxin 200, M, 10M
>>> 13 months Pertussin 200, M, 10M
>>> 14 months Morbillinum 200
>>> 15 months Morbillinum 200, M, 10M
>>> 16 months Lathyrus Sativus 200, M, 10M
>>> 17 months Haemophilis M, M, M
>>> 19 months Parotidinum 200
>>> 20 months Parotidinum 200, M, 10M
>>> 22 months Diphtherinum 200, M, 10M
>>> 24 months Tetanus Toxin 200, M, 10M
>>> 26 months Lathyrus Sativus 200, M, 10M
>>> 28 months Haemophilis M, M, M
>>> 32 months Pertussin 200, M, 10M
>>> 41 months Tetanus Toxin 200, M, 10M
>>> 46 months Haemophilis M, M, M
>>> 50 months Diphtherinum 200, M, 10M
>>> 54 months Morbillinum 200, M, 10M
>>> 56 months Lathyrus Sativus 200, M, 10M
>>> 60 months Tetanus Toxin 200, M, 10M
>>> Remedy-Disease Relationship: Pertussin -- Whooping Cough;

>> Tetanus
>>> Toxin --
>>> Tetanus; Parotidinum -- Mumps; Haemophilis -- Hib Influenzae;

>> Lathyrus> Sativus – Polio; Diphtherinum – Diphtheria; Morbillinum -
>> - Measles:
>>>
>>> ******
>>> Questions to think about or answer if inclined
>>>
>>> 1. How many of the above nosodes are of 'diseases' that are
>>> communicable?
>>> Which ones?
>>> 2. How many are even an issue today in

>> US/UK/Australia/Canada/NZ/W.
>>> Europe
>>> etc. I don't know India and don't pretend to speak for India.

>> But I
>>> do
>>> know there is a lot of disease propaganda there also to sell

>> vaccine.> 3. What children are at risk for Haemophilis Influenza
>> meningitis?> 4. Much about polio was propaganda for a variety of
>> reasons, one of
>>> which
>>> was to sell vaccine? What are some other reasons that you know

>> of that
>>> were exciting causes for so-called polio? What about

>> poliomyelitis
>>> being
>>> caused by pesticides and other toxins?
>>> 5. What other 'diseases' are the same as polio but have

>> different
>>> names?
>>> 6. Who is more at risk for complications of pertussis (age?)
>>> 7. Tell me what test there is to diagnose tetanus in a person?
>>> 8. Where is tetanus? Which climates are more at risk?
>>> 9. What were the death rates from the above diseases in the
>>> 'vaccination'
>>> chart before the allopathic vaccinations came out?
>>> 10. Why is a girl at risk and needing mumps 'vaccine'? For

>> that
>>> matter
>>> why is a boy? What is the true risk of sterility?
>>> 11. Why is a boy at risk and needing rubella 'vaccine'?
>>> 13. What is the reality of measles for relatively healthy children?
>>> 14. What epidemics are we at risk for in

>> US/UK/Australia/Canada/NZ/W.> Europe etc. What is even at all likely?
>>>
>>>
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Old 31st May 2006, 03:45 PM
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I am also wondering about this - didn't Hahnemann say he thought all the provings he did made him healthier? That might be a vote for the prophylaxis viewpoint.

Tracy

----- Original Message -----
From: Robert & Shannon Nelson <shannonnelson (AT) tds (DOT) net>
Date: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:57 am
Subject: Re: [H] Golden & 'vaccination' remedies..........

> Frankly, that's been my starting point, too.
> But I was impressed by what Isaac told us on the list (this or
> another?) last year. I think I have to just read it...
> Shannon
>
> On May 31, 2006, at 9:15 AM, tnewman (AT) everestkc (DOT) net wrote:
>
> > Part of what I have been taught is that getting the childhood

> diseases
> > (when you are a child) is a GOOD thing, and that the disease

> process
> > helps the body to clear miasms that were present at birth, etc.

> Why
> > use homeopathic prophylaxis to prevent this process, unless the

> child
> > is so sickly that getting the disease would be truly dangerous?
> >
> > Tracy


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Old 31st May 2006, 05:05 PM
Robert & Shannon Nelson
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Default Re: Golden & 'vaccination' remedies..........

Yup, we're on the same track again!
But I have *not* heard Isaac or anyone talk about any of the children
proving any of the doses, so it is maybe not exactly the same thing?
Or maybe it is...
Shannon

On May 31, 2006, at 10:34 AM, tnewman (AT) everestkc (DOT) net wrote:

> I am also wondering about this - didn't Hahnemann say he thought all
> the provings he did made him healthier? That might be a vote for the
> prophylaxis viewpoint.
>
> Tracy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert & Shannon Nelson <shannonnelson (AT) tds (DOT) net>
> Date: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:57 am
> Subject: Re: [H] Golden & 'vaccination' remedies..........
>
>> Frankly, that's been my starting point, too.
>> But I was impressed by what Isaac told us on the list (this or
>> another?) last year. I think I have to just read it...
>> Shannon
>>
>> On May 31, 2006, at 9:15 AM, tnewman (AT) everestkc (DOT) net wrote:
>>
>>> Part of what I have been taught is that getting the childhood

>> diseases
>>> (when you are a child) is a GOOD thing, and that the disease

>> process
>>> helps the body to clear miasms that were present at birth, etc.

>> Why
>>> use homeopathic prophylaxis to prevent this process, unless the

>> child
>>> is so sickly that getting the disease would be truly dangerous?
>>>
>>> Tracy

>


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fixing the problem for you automatically after telling MacRepertory
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