When questioned about HIV NOT being proven to cause AIDS
and what about all the 'photo's of the HIV virus.............see Jim West's
commentary after this......
Sheri

>I have a question about HIV. I read several of the articles that
>Sheri sent out yesterday on AIDs, including "The AIDs Debate, One of
>the Most Controversial Stories You've Never Heard." I've also begun
>(but not far into) reading "What if Everything You Thought You Knew
>About AIDS Was Wrong?". I think I have a decent understanding of the
>basic arguments against the HIV equals AIDS mindset, and since
>yesterday was world AIDS day, I thought I would take the opportunity
>to send out an email to all my friends and family regarding the fraud
>behind AIDS. But now with their replies I think I might be in over my
>head and I need some help. Form all of the aritcles I've read, they
>all seem to say HIV cannot be isolated, no one has ever found HIV in
>human blood, etc. Well if this is the case, what are the pictures of
>HIV on this website:

http://www.virology.net/Big_Virology/BVretro.html
>
>These are supposedly pictures of HIV, but how can there be pictures of
>a virus that cannot be isolated and cannot itself be detected even
>with supposed "HIV tests"???? If someone can explain this clearly I
>would be very grateful!
>

---------Commentary by Jim West-----------------------------------------

Pretty pictures are not proof.

People will then say, “But you have to believe someone!” Why should we?
The world is full of illusions. Virology is one of them. 1001 Arabian
Nights. Our full time job just dodging the BS (and PhD).

I just recently, a few months ago, I read several of Stefan Lanka’s
articles, and they are great. Footnoted is one.** Papadopolus*** is
another great explainer on that site.

Regarding the photos of HIV. They are impressive, and in color. They do
generously admit that the photos are “pseudo-colored”—as if that is the
limit for their pseudo-activity.

As Lanka is saying, ‘they’ say they have photos of HIV, but—they haven’t
proven such is the case. The globules, and other “HIV”-like items are just
commonly occurring vacuolizations* of genetic and other matter, through the
cell membrane. These bits of round matter have not been proven to be
pathogenic microbial ‘viruses’, using the proper scientific standards for
logical and physical proof.

To prove anything in chemistry (or bio-chemistry), one must isolate the
chemical (or virus), and then run it through a series of tests, to discover
its character. That is the scientific method we all learned. But
bio-chemists more than fudge that basic methodology. They must fudge or
quit.

What they don’t say, when they show those pictures, is that within the
extracts they are showing, there is much other matter that looks just like
supposed “HIV virus”, and that they are framing the matter, as if that is
what the entire extract looks like, and they are claiming that they are
finding HIV in a purified form (as a pure aggregate of HIV viruses) and that
they are experimenting with those aggregates.

Very little of their extract looks like the photo.

So how can they know, when they run their tests, that the bits of matter are
what they claim, that they cause the laboratory version of disease (which is
their idea of proof).
How do they know that it is not some other bit of matter, or serum, or
enzyme or hormone that caused the lab disease, as a proof? How do they know
that the real problem is the even smaller prions (another area of microbial
BS, though)?

If they were actually to have a solid isolation, a real proof—that proof
(which they don’t have) would still have nothing to do with real-life
epidemics. Lab diseases are caused in perpetually sick cells, in petri
dishes, cell-lines that represent disabled immune systems, animals in a
similar state.

Other methods employed, are, injection directly into the brains of infant
mice. Any results, not matter how well proven (and they aren’t), are not
related to our actual lives. (However, vaccination allows them to move the
lab into our lives.)

How do they know, that when one takes tissue, puts it in a petri dish (or
‘well’ or ‘tube’), and exposes it to processed diseased matter, that a
disease is supposed to be perpetuated in the petri dish? How do they know
that they are only proving ‘petri-dish fever’ or ‘injection disease’?

And that is the end of their proof? If lab workers inject one’s brain with
foreign matter, we should expect illness. But that is not how anyone
catches a real disease—except in a hospital.

If scientist/propagandists really want to prove the validity of the “HIV
epidemic” concept, then they should get 100,000 healthy, non-drugged,
non-poisoned mice, allow them have intercourse without condoms, and measure
the incidence of AIDS in these mice.


But they will never do a test, no test that they can’t rig to their
advantage. Virology, usually brings or finds animals, or animal tissue, at
the critical margin of ill health and death, and then uses them or their
tissue in lab experiments to prove that the introduction of something,
causes them to become sicker.

One must speak with a virologist to ferret out all the responses. But
virologists are not available to the public. Due to my years of experience
in this area of critical endeavor, I have been lucky enough to have had some
discussion, most recently, a 44-page discussion with a virologist. I’ve
managed to have held several other discussions with other virologists too,
some lengthy. During these, I must be very careful with them, to have the
conversation last at all. With one word about toxicology, or isolation,
they reply with insult, or find a reason to become unavailable.

Another great proof against orthodoxy is found in “Inventing the AIDS Virus”
by Duesberg (www.duesberg.com) Duesberg is one of the most respected
virologists of the 20th c, until he decided to study the toxicology of AIDS.
He then lost all funding, and fought for years to avoid being removed from
his professorship. He had tenure and that saved him. He now teaches
freshman class.


No one can say that a virus causes any disease—if the most obvious causes
are avoided, omitted from study, eg., pharmaceuticals, drugs, pollution.


Avoiding obvious, manifest, confounding evidence, automatically invalidates
a “proof”.
The fact that HIV is so well-chased, promoted with big bucks, while all eyes
are closed to poisoning, and those like Duesberg, who postulate the idea of
toxicology, are attacked—is a virtual admission that HIV is a coverup.

At a meeting that featured Stefan Lanka, speaking here in NYC, a meeting
held by Michel Ellner, a doctor told his political experience with AIDS. He
said he was a counselor at an AIDS clinic. Patients would come into his
office and say, “I was told I have six months to live!” He would respond
with merely, “Maybe so, maybe not. Here are some websites you could read
that don’t follow the mainstream views regarding AIDS.” That doctor was
sued by a team of pro-HIV lawyers, to have him punished and removed from his
job.

Toxicology abounds re AIDS, but no one is looking there. My usual analogy:
Does a detective, upon finding bullet holes in a dead person, only embark on
a study of viruses that cause bullet holes?

HIV is used to explain why millions of poor people, living in shanty towns
in Africa, drinking water polluted with pesticides and industrial
pollutants, are dying, and diseased. HIV saves a lot of industrial money
and pride, by facilitating the categorization of those people, as dirty
microbe speaders, who don’t use condoms, vaccinations, or pharmaceuticals.

Virology provides the rationale for such categorizations.


-Jim West

*Vacuolization: Cells emit and absorb matter by “budding” it through their
membranes, in and out. A normal process. They put the matter in a bubble
of their own cell membrane, so they can keep control of it and use it, such
as by digestion, placing enzymes within the incoming bud. Those floating
buds, may or may not contain genetic matter. They can be interpreted as
‘pathogenic viruses’ under a microscope. Free floating genetic material,
and these buds increase in number during high stress, such as industrial
poisoning.

It is strategically clever for orthodox medicine to target this phenomena as
pathogenic activity, just like ‘fever’ is targeted as a pathogenic activity
during illness. Try to reduce your fever, don’t ask why you have a fever,
or what the fever is doing to help you.
Returning to the subject of vacuolization: This activity can be measured
and seen in microscopes, and tests can measure various associated phenomena,
such as serum reactions (used in “serum tests” to indicate virus presence).

Measuring things, testing for them, and finding them, whatever they are,
doesn’t prove they cause actual disease.

** Lanka:
www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/slartefact.htm

* * *Eleni Papadopoulos
http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/index/hivtests.htm


Jim West
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The AIDS epidemic is an epidemic of lies.
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/aids.htm
pages and pages of info you wont see anyplace else.

profeteering and genocide from the medical-industrial complex.
AIDS was predicted,requested,produced and released by the US Gov. (WHO) World Health Org.
via smallpox vaccines in africa
via hept B. vaccines in the usa (NY,LA,SF) under the supervision of dr. Wolf Szmuness.
More can be found by writing the "Strecker group" at 1216 Wilshire blv. LA. Calif. 90017 usa
(they will provide a list of 50 articles/documents from respected scientific journals)
A great book on this subject was written called;
"AIDS- and the doctors of death an inquiry into the origin of the AIDS epidemic" by Alan cantwell M.D.

Gina Tyler

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