Hi,
One of my friends younger brother 40 yrs died all of a sudden.
It happened so, was playing with the kids at night. Then went to bed and
in the morning found that he was dead. His head was lying on one side.
His father tried to wake him up and finally applied pressure on the
heart and stomach.
With the applied pressure blood spilled out from nostrils, ears, mouth etc.
Cause of death unknown.

On further questioning it is found that the person was putting on weight
all of sudden since the past 3 to 4 months.

Does anyone have any idea for this sudden change? I am interested in :
under what conditions does a person start putting on weight. Is it
related to kidneys malfunctioning, liver issues or heart issues.

I could not find any further information regarding the person.
Thanks,
Kotti

Hi,
You worte:

On further questioning it is found that the person was putting on weight all
of sudden since the past 3 to 4 months.

Does anyone have any idea for this sudden change? I am interested in :
under what conditions does a person start putting on weight. Is it related
to kidneys malfunctioning, liver issues or heart issues."

In all such cases, we need to find out if his appetite suddenly became
ravenous, in which case the cause could be Insulinoma or Frohlich's
Syndrome. If not the cause could be Cushing's syndrome or Lipodystrophy or
Hypogonadism or Klinefelter's Syndrome or Hypothyroidism. If associated with
mental retardation it could be Alzhiemer or memory loss occasioned by
various traumatic factors. If your pt is a female you may also investigate
if it is a case of Polycystic ovaries.

Homeopathically the miasm involved is Sycotic (+ Psora of course). At the
recent seminar
Dr. Vijayakar however classified it as Syphilitic if the obesity is one of
exponential/ excessively rapid/galloping/ runaway type,- hence out of
control - running back into psora (active, not latent) - cases of such a
compounded miasm require altogether a different approach because it is like
fire added to the fuel and he dwelled on this topic at length. It is
difficult for me to reproduce it here.

With best wishes,
V.T.Yekkirala

But could any of these situations (I recognize some, but not all) be
related to the strangest part--that after death on pressure to the
chest he bled from mouth, nose, ears?

On Apr 5, 2006, at 12:16 PM, V.T. Yekkirala wrote:

>
> Hi,
> You worte:
>
> On further questioning it is found that the person was putting on
> weight all of sudden since the past 3 to 4 months.
>
> Does anyone have any idea for this sudden change? I am interested in
> : under what conditions does a person start putting on weight. Is it
> related to kidneys malfunctioning, liver issues or heart issues."
>
> In all such cases, we need to find out if his appetite suddenly became
> ravenous, in which case the cause could be Insulinoma or Frohlich's
> Syndrome. If not the cause could be Cushing's syndrome or
> Lipodystrophy or Hypogonadism or Klinefelter's Syndrome or
> Hypothyroidism. If associated with mental retardation it could be
> Alzhiemer or memory loss occasioned by various traumatic factors. If
> your pt is a female you may also investigate if it is a case of
> Polycystic ovaries.
>
> Homeopathically the miasm involved is Sycotic (+ Psora of course). At
> the recent seminar
> Dr. Vijayakar however classified it as Syphilitic if the obesity is
> one of exponential/ excessively rapid/galloping/ runaway type,- hence
> out of control - running back into psora (active, not latent) - cases
> of such a compounded miasm require altogether a different approach
> because it is like fire added to the fuel and he dwelled on this topic
> at length. It is difficult for me to reproduce it here.
>
> With best wishes,
> V.T.Yekkirala
>
>
>

On Wed, 5 Apr 2006, Robert & Shannon Nelson wrote:

> But could any of these situations (I recognize some, but not all) be related
> to the strangest part--that after death on pressure to the chest he bled from
> mouth, nose, ears?
>
Perhaps the putting on of weight was not fat but edema, anasarka?

In that case it may have been a liver pathology, e.g. cirrhosis of
liver, this causing a sort of shunt to the vessels in the throat
region. They burst, because they are not made to withstand that kind
of pressure and massive bleeding occurs. This may have been the blood.
This is often the cause of death with cirrhosis of the liver.

Disorder of the liver leading to cirrhosis often also involves
thrombocytopenia or such, so that the blood does not clot. This then
would make the bleeding even more severe. It may also explain why some
time after death the blood was still fluid, which it seems to have
been from the account.

Regards

Luise


> On Apr 5, 2006, at 12:16 PM, V.T. Yekkirala wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>> You worte:
>>
>> On further questioning it is found that the person was putting on weight
>> all of sudden since the past 3 to 4 months.
>>
>> Does anyone have any idea for this sudden change? I am interested in
>> : under what conditions does a person start putting on weight. Is it
>> related to kidneys malfunctioning, liver issues or heart issues."
>>
>> In all such cases, we need to find out if his appetite suddenly became
>> ravenous, in which case the cause could be Insulinoma or Frohlich's
>> Syndrome. If not the cause could be Cushing's syndrome or Lipodystrophy or
>> Hypogonadism or Klinefelter's Syndrome or Hypothyroidism. If associated
>> with mental retardation it could be Alzhiemer or memory loss occasioned by
>> various traumatic factors. If your pt is a female you may also investigate
>> if it is a case of Polycystic ovaries.
>>
>> Homeopathically the miasm involved is Sycotic (+ Psora of course). At the
>> recent seminar
>> Dr. Vijayakar however classified it as Syphilitic if the obesity is one of
>> exponential/ excessively rapid/galloping/ runaway type,- hence out of
>> control - running back into psora (active, not latent) - cases of such a
>> compounded miasm require altogether a different approach because it is
>> like fire added to the fuel and he dwelled on this topic at length. It is
>> difficult for me to reproduce it here.
>>
>> With best wishes,
>> V.T.Yekkirala
>>
>>
>>

Mm, you've convinced me!
So now I've learned something about cirrhosis of the liver... Wouldn't
a person be feeling pretty horrible by the time the disease got to this
point? I'm remembering that he'd been playing with the kids, had
apparently felt find to that point. What else could cause that besides
alcoholism?
Shannon


On Apr 6, 2006, at 6:54 AM, Luise Kunkle wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Apr 2006, Robert & Shannon Nelson wrote:
>
>> But could any of these situations (I recognize some, but not all) be
>> related to the strangest part--that after death on pressure to the
>> chest he bled from mouth, nose, ears?
>>
> Perhaps the putting on of weight was not fat but edema, anasarka?
>
> In that case it may have been a liver pathology, e.g. cirrhosis of
> liver, this causing a sort of shunt to the vessels in the throat
> region. They burst, because they are not made to withstand that kind
> of pressure and massive bleeding occurs. This may have been the blood.
> This is often the cause of death with cirrhosis of the liver.
>
> Disorder of the liver leading to cirrhosis often also involves
> thrombocytopenia or such, so that the blood does not clot. This then
> would make the bleeding even more severe. It may also explain why some
> time after death the blood was still fluid, which it seems to have
> been from the account.
>
> Regards
>
> Luise

Hi Shannon,

On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Robert & Shannon Nelson wrote:

> Mm, you've convinced me!
> So now I've learned something about cirrhosis of the liver... Wouldn't a
> person be feeling pretty horrible by the time the disease got to this point?

Generally speaking, I should think so. But there are always exceptions
- sometimes people who on xray of e.g. the spinal cord should be
incable of moving or screaming with pain never feel any trouble -
with autopsies the same.

It is of course also possible that there is no cirrhosis but perhaps a
thrombosis of the vena porta The point with cirrhosis in this respect
is that the flow of blood through the liver is impeded or blocked in
the end - so a thrombus may conceivably also do this.

> I'm remembering that he'd been playing with the kids, had apparently felt
> find to that point. What else could cause that besides alcoholism?

E. g. chronic hepatitis, but probably other things as well:
infections, acute hepatitis. The latter possibly also without
cirhosis, when you consider what happens in an inflammation. It could
probably also cause the blockage of flow through the liver.

All guessing on my part, of course - somewhat educated guess, but I am
no gastro-enterologist:-)

Regards

Luise
>
>
> On Apr 6, 2006, at 6:54 AM, Luise Kunkle wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 5 Apr 2006, Robert & Shannon Nelson wrote:
>>
>> > But could any of these situations (I recognize some, but not all) be
>> > related to the strangest part--that after death on pressure to the chest
>> > he bled from mouth, nose, ears?
>> >
>> Perhaps the putting on of weight was not fat but edema, anasarka?
>>
>> In that case it may have been a liver pathology, e.g. cirrhosis of liver,
>> this causing a sort of shunt to the vessels in the throat region. They
>> burst, because they are not made to withstand that kind of pressure and
>> massive bleeding occurs. This may have been the blood. This is often the
>> cause of death with cirrhosis of the liver.
>>
>> Disorder of the liver leading to cirrhosis often also involves
>> thrombocytopenia or such, so that the blood does not clot. This then would
>> make the bleeding even more severe. It may also explain why some time
>> after death the blood was still fluid, which it seems to have been from
>> the account.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Luise
>
>

A way better guess than I could come up with--thanks!
Shannon

On Apr 6, 2006, at 3:16 PM, Luise Kunkle wrote:

>
> Hi Shannon,
>
> On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Robert & Shannon Nelson wrote:
>
>> Mm, you've convinced me!
>> So now I've learned something about cirrhosis of the liver...
>> Wouldn't a person be feeling pretty horrible by the time the disease
>> got to this point?
>
> Generally speaking, I should think so. But there are always exceptions
> - sometimes people who on xray of e.g. the spinal cord should be
> incable of moving or screaming with pain never feel any trouble - with
> autopsies the same.
>
> It is of course also possible that there is no cirrhosis but perhaps a
> thrombosis of the vena porta The point with cirrhosis in this respect
> is that the flow of blood through the liver is impeded or blocked in
> the end - so a thrombus may conceivably also do this.
>
>> I'm remembering that he'd been playing with the kids, had apparently
>> felt find to that point. What else could cause that besides
>> alcoholism?
>
> E. g. chronic hepatitis, but probably other things as well:
> infections, acute hepatitis. The latter possibly also without
> cirhosis, when you consider what happens in an inflammation. It could
> probably also cause the blockage of flow through the liver.
>
> All guessing on my part, of course - somewhat educated guess, but I am
> no gastro-enterologist:-)
>
> Regards
>
> Luise