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Old 22nd February 2006, 11:05 PM
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hi all,
this is what George thinks about the bird flu.
http://www.vithoulkas.com/library_EN...p_issue04.html

Stephan
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BIRD FLU - The homeopathic point of view
Do we really understand the problem?
We have to pose a series of questions:

Step 1
• Do we understand what happened when the pandemic of 1918 broke out?
• Do we understand why there hasn’t been a similar pandemic since?
• Were there coincidences or environmental conditions that allowed such a
pandemic to appear in 1918 that we are not aware of?
• Were there any global weather or other conditions conducive to the
appearance of the 1918 pandemic?

Only if we understand the mechanism and the whys of such pandemics can we take
the right precautionary measures.
At the moment we must accept our inability to perceive the real cause or
complexity of this matter. It is not wise just to try desperately and in a
hurry to produce a new vaccination, thinking that this will be the solution.

Step 2
• Do we understand why new mutations of viruses constantly appear?
• Do we realise what our share is in contributing to this dangerous situation
of constant mutations?

So far 15 types of flu viruses have been identified and one of the most
virulent appears to be H5N1 which was discovered in 1997.

• Do we understand the complex processes that take place before the stem of a
virus has been matured so that we can identify it?
• Do we know whether at this very moment new viruses are breeding in our
protein structures that will be manifested in the next few months or years
and only then will be identified?

The only thing we can be sure of is that we have interfered with strong
chemical drugs in the complex chain of the immune system of living organisms
to such a degree that we have created havoc in the immune system of living
organisms.


Step 3
• Is it true that for years chickens and turkeys in mass production poultry
farms have been over medicated?
• Is it true that viruses and all microbes, bacteria, fungi and in general all
disease producing agents are able to mutate under certain conditions?
• Is it true that these mutations take place under pressure upon the immune
system from chemical drugs?
• Is it true that there have been many instances of epidemics in poultry farms
with thousands of poultry deaths where carcases were often disposed of in the
open?
To all these questions the answer is a clear: YES.

The wrong lines of thinking
There are many research papers showing that something was wrong with the
suppositions so far that if we killed the virus or the bacteria with chemical
drugs everything would be alright.
There is research that proves that this idea may have been wrong, but what has
been done with this information?
Instead of stopping and trying to find a possible answer we continued along
the wrong lines of thinking. We tried to kill the viruses and the bacteria
instead of strengthening the immune system of these organisms.

Unless such questions are answered we will be groping in the dark, if not in a
chaos, of ideas and hypotheses and we will be taking superficial measures
that may actually make the situation worse instead of improving it. Today’s
hysteria may reach unimaginable proportions where there may be a call for all
the birds of the planet to be killed in order that humans will survive. What
we do not realise is that humans will disappear first as the viruses are
stronger and more useful for the continuation of life on earth!

Some revealing facts
In order to solve such a problem as a pandemic originating from poultry we
have to go back to the hygiene practices of poultry farms and discover how
such measures were applied and in particular what kind of drugs were used and
how these medications interfered and modified the immune system of the farm
chicken.

We must understand why a type of medication that was originally so effective
eventually became almost ineffective or harmful. Why did we constantly need
newer types of medication in order to counteract disease in these farms?

Many voices were raised supporting the alternatives like ecological farms
which treated animals with more natural means and with homeopathy, but
governments and authorities did not pay these the attention they deserved.

We have to give answers to the fact that in recent years when the mass
production poultry farms were selling their newly hatched chickens and
turkeys to the villagers almost all of these young birds died within a period
of 20 days once in their possession.

The reason is that the young birds were kept under heavy medication but once
the villagers took possession of them and discontinued the medication, the
poor organisms of these young chickens and turkeys collapsed entirely and
almost all of them died very soon. The syndrome is not different than the HIV
in humans; chickens are dying from a kind of Auto-Immune Deficiency Syndrome.

This is why in recent years the villagers decided to breed their own chickens,
incubating and hatching eggs and even keeping them inside their houses to
keep them warm. A whole industry has developed with small family hatching
machines. These chickens were remaining alive and healthy for many years
without any medication.

With the information we have so far we can reach several conclusions

1. That a pandemic will not appear even if there are sporadically infected
cases unless the global and planetary conditions are conducive. We do not
know when this will happen. If this was otherwise we would have a pandemic
every year.
2. In any case, influenza epidemics still appear every year but are always
limited in number and places.
3. If the pandemic does come it will affect mostly the young and the healthy
and primarily those living in the East. So far these people have not been
heavily vaccinated with the multitude of vaccinations that the western
population has been subjected to. It may seem strange but it is the lowering
of the level of health that gives protection.
(For more information on the effect of vaccination see my book the «Science of
Homeopathy»)
4. By deteriorating their own health through repeated vaccinations and
chemical drugs the western population is eventually protected from developing
acute diseases with high fever of whatever type. (for more information on
this matter see my book a New Model for Health and Disease)
5. Even if a pandemic does break out it will not affect a large proportion of
the western population because most of them have already damaged their health
on a very deep level. Such sick westerners will actually act as a buffer to
the spread of the disease.
6. If the source of mutations is produced within the poultry farms, then the
first measure should be to improve the health of these farms, treating them
with more natural means. As homeopathy’s main objective is to improve the
immune system in living organisms then it is going to be the appropriate
medicine to use.
7. It is our strong belief that if homeopathy is generally adapted in the
animal farms it will prove to have more superior results than any type of
antiviral medicine existing until now.
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Old 23rd February 2006, 08:53 AM
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hi all,
this is what George thinks about the bird flu.
http://www.vithoulkas.com/library_EN...p_issue04.html

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I have just one word for GV and this article - GREAT !!!
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Default Article on Bird Flu by GV sir

Dear Stephen,

Thank you very much for the link.

I can't limit the words of being elated while going through the thought provoking article on Bird Flu by Prof: George Vithoulkas, the living legend of Homoeopathy.
Having established the pandemic and created enough chaos and fear among the poor villagers
(of East especially, who still are left with reactive power as Vithoulkas has pointed, and who are earning their livelihood by poultry keeping )
the pharmaco MNCs will be now slipping slowly into their marketing strategies. There is scarcely anyone who recognizes the fact that
undue drugging has resulted in this crisis !!!

bye
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He builds conclusion after conclusion from erroneous information. He really does not understand influenza.
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dear Dillweed,
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He builds conclusion after conclusion from erroneous information. He really does not understand influenza.
WHO does not understand???!!!
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Dear friend Dilweed,

I can't understand what you ment really. If you are telling that Vithoulkas' knowledge about influenza is meagre, I am sorry, there is no use in talking with you. Please clarify

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hi all,
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Originally Posted by drrejikumar
Dear friend Dilweed,
I can't understand what you ment really. If you are telling that Vithoulkas' knowledge about influenza is meagre, I am sorry, there is no use in talking with you. Please clarify
Dr.Rejikumar
don´t let us be so drastic - everybody can learn and as I see that Dilweed is a student we have to show Georges way of thinking.
Without knowing this theory we cannot cure a lot of cases and we do not realize the health problems our society really has.
I am studying now for 10 years Georges way of thinking and if there is any question - if I can answer and help please ask. To understand his thinking we have to know a lot.
all the best to all
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Everyone has a right to their own opinion. That goes for George also. It's interesting to notice that most of you seem to swallow his opinion without asking for proof of his assertions or examine the logic with which he draws his conclusion. Strange, but typical.
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And of course that's your opinion too, Jocce. I'm not a big fan of everything George says, but the article is thought provoking. He's played an undeniably huge role in promoting homeopathy, but has also alienated many people within the profession as a result of his strong convictions, with which not everyone agrees.

Thanks much for providing the link--it's a great addition to the bird flu discussion . . . again, in my opinion.
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hi Jocce,
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Originally Posted by Jocce
It's interesting to notice that most of you seem to swallow his opinion without asking for proof of his assertions or examine the logic with which he draws his conclusion. Strange, but typical.
You should read his book to understand his very profound view of the situation of health of modern society. In the posted article he refers to his book:
"information on this matter see my book a New Model for Health and Disease"
It is the most astonishing, most real and also most frightening logic I have seen about our helth situation - did you read the book and made your conclusions afterwards?
Where are your critics?
all the best
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