I was taught to use the "wet socks" treatment for a fever
during which the patient might be just too miserable, where
they couldn't sleep or get reasonably comfortable or if it
was just going too high. I imagine the rest of you have
heard something about it (cold wet cotton socks then
covered with dry, warm wool socks). This is a nice option
to be able to offer homeopathic patients or their parents :)
when they ar just too worried about the high fevers.

I was taught that you don't lose the benefit of the fever,
but pulling it down through the body eases any discomfort.

What do you think?

Sherill


> > Lowering temp thru ice packs etc. is something I
continue to be curious
> > about. If fever is such a good healer--and it seems me
to me that it
> > *is*--then what actually is the benefit of using ice
packs, for anything
> > other than, say, heat stroke? Sounds horrible in any
case... FWIW my
> > approach to fever (and what I was long ago taught) has
always been to dress
> > according to comfort--warm wraps if the person feels
chilled, and light
> > clothing if they feel too hot.
>
> But cold or tepid damp/wet wraps around the calves is a
widespread
> folk and naturopathic remedy for illness with fever - to
bring it
> down.
>
> I have always wondered the same thing as you - unless the
fever is
> high enough to be a risk for the patient itself (and that
can happen)
> anything to bring down the fever (including sweat-packs,
another folk
> and naturopathic device) is harmful, in my opinion - and
I have always
> been at cross-daggers on that with my naturopath-
collegues.

Homeopathic remedies are all that you should need for treatment.
They work very nicely for fevers.

It is rarely a good idea to reduce a fever and I have seen little need to.
Just fear programmed into us

Be grateful you have a strong vital force that can produce strong symptoms.
That's how I look at it.

Everyone has got to get over the thought that they need to reduce a fever
with anything other than homeopathy matching symptoms
http://www.simillimum.com/FirstAid/T...in/Fevers.html

Sheri

At 07:49 PM 2/6/2006 GMT, you wrote:
>I was taught to use the "wet socks" treatment for a fever
>during which the patient might be just too miserable, where
>they couldn't sleep or get reasonably comfortable or if it
>was just going too high. I imagine the rest of you have
>heard something about it (cold wet cotton socks then
>covered with dry, warm wool socks). This is a nice option
>to be able to offer homeopathic patients or their parents :)
>when they ar just too worried about the high fevers.
>
>I was taught that you don't lose the benefit of the fever,
>but pulling it down through the body eases any discomfort.
>
>What do you think?
>
>Sherill
>>
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Hi Sherill,

On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, Sherill (AT) ecentral (DOT) com wrote:

> I was taught to use the "wet socks" treatment for a fever
> during which the patient might be just too miserable, where
> they couldn't sleep or get reasonably comfortable or if it
> was just going too high. I imagine the rest of you have
> heard something about it (cold wet cotton socks then
> covered with dry, warm wool socks). This is a nice option
> to be able to offer homeopathic patients or their parents :)
> when they ar just too worried about the high fevers.
>
> I was taught that you don't lose the benefit of the fever,
> but pulling it down through the body eases any discomfort.
>
> What do you think?
>
I do not see how it can be that you " do not lose the benefit of the
fever"

The rise of temperature in the blood and tissues is a device of the
system to prevent bacteria from multiplying (pathogens multiply best
at body temperature - growing a culture in vitro for identification
you would be very careful to keep the temperature just right) - the
same probably applies (and possibly even more so) for viruses.

This also applies to the fact that in fever the metabolism is set much
higher, probably helping in the "digestion" of the little critters and
toxins etc.

So by lowering the fever *any way at all* you will take the built-in
defense weapons away from the system and hep the pathogens to thrive.

For some people, e.g. those with a weak heart, old people etc. the
increase of the metabolism may damage. In this case it is probably
wise to lower a high fever in a gentle manner - as e.g. with those wet
socks.

It is too bad that all (?) the analgesics also lower fever. The pain
may not at all come from it, but e.g. from toxins discharged by the
bacteria or other causes.

Regards

Luise


>
>
>>> Lowering temp thru ice packs etc. is something I
> continue to be curious
>>> about. If fever is such a good healer--and it seems me
> to me that it
>>> *is*--then what actually is the benefit of using ice
> packs, for anything
>>> other than, say, heat stroke? Sounds horrible in any
> case... FWIW my
>>> approach to fever (and what I was long ago taught) has
> always been to dress
>>> according to comfort--warm wraps if the person feels
> chilled, and light
>>> clothing if they feel too hot.
>>
>> But cold or tepid damp/wet wraps around the calves is a
> widespread
>> folk and naturopathic remedy for illness with fever - to
> bring it
>> down.
>>
>> I have always wondered the same thing as you - unless the
> fever is
>> high enough to be a risk for the patient itself (and that
> can happen)
>> anything to bring down the fever (including sweat-packs,
> another folk
>> and naturopathic device) is harmful, in my opinion - and
> I have always
>> been at cross-daggers on that with my naturopath-
> collegues.
>
>
>
>

As much as *I* agree with you Sheri, the reality is that (US?) parents have
been programmed. I am thrilled when I can put out a big fever and I would
never use the socks on myself. I did use them on my daughter when she was
small. Once when her fever was approaching 105F, I was ok, but she was
terribly uncomfortable, delirious, sleepless and restless and so tired...
AND she had already had her remedy that worked very nicely. Meanwhile the
socks went a long way to comfort her.

But when people/patients/parents of patients, are new to homeopathy, I
would rather let them change entire paradigms at their own comfort level.
Once they begin to trust and then begin to question that indoctrination they
are more likely to go further.

Sherill


-----Original Message-----
From: Sheri Nakken
Subject: Re: [H] fever was 1918 flu epidemic

Homeopathic remedies are all that you should need for treatment

<snip>
Everyone has got to get over the thought that they need to reduce a fever
with anything other than homeopathy matching symptoms

Hello to all
Regards fever
for some reason these couple of weeks so many patients with 'fever',i notice that if they cannot get in for an homeopathic appt. parents start to panic,see an allopath he gives antibiotics ( the lazy prescription method give everyboby and anybody antibiotics......oh my god when will these allopaths learn!)
Then its off to the drugstore to get Motrin,or Tylenol.................
What i notice is that the ones that do this get a severe suppression of their fever thus when they start taking a remedy there is a reoccurance of aggravated fever. More panic phonecalls from parents........
When you take a remedy right away for fever the symptoms do not get out of hand,it takes it's course and departs the body with grace as it should.
Gina Tyler

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"Great ideas often recieve violent opposition from mediocre minds"...................Einstein

Gina
Why don't you consider creating a 'kit' for your parents that panic. Cell
salts make up a great kit - helps parents feel like they are 'doing
something' and provides comfort without interferring with the process.
There are only 12, so it's not a big deal. Parents can call you - and you
can suggest individual cell salts as a 'stop gap' until you can see the
individual. It is not a perfect solution - but I would rather a child
receive a cell salt than over the counter 'cold' medications, 'fever
reducers', or multiple antibiotics.

The parent panic usually diminishes as they have experience with homeopathy
- and with you - but the little kit is later useful on vacations and any
other times you can't see them immediately.


> [Original Message]
> From: <homeolist (AT) otherhealth (DOT) com>
> To: <homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com>
> Date: 2/9/2006 12:23:58 PM
> Subject: [H] Re: fever was 1918 flu epidemic
>
>
> Hello to all
> Regards fever
> for some reason these couple of weeks so many patients with 'fever',i
> notice that if they cannot get in for an homeopathic appt. parents
> start to panic,see an allopath he gives antibiotics ( the lazy
> prescription method give everyboby and anybody antibiotics......oh my
> god when will these allopaths learn!)
> Then its off to the drugstore to get Motrin,or Tylenol.................
> What i notice is that the ones that do this get a severe suppression of
> their fever thus when they start taking a remedy there is a reoccurance
> of aggravated fever. More panic phonecalls from parents........
> When you take a remedy right away for fever the symptoms do not get out
> of hand,it takes it's course and departs the body with grace as it
> should.
> Gina Tyler
>
>
> --
> Gina
>
> Senior member also known by name G.Tyler 496posts
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Gina's Profile: http://www.otherhealth.com/members/gina.html
> View this thread: fever was 1918 flu epidemic
>
>

Dear DCR
Good idea,thanks
I have tried something like that using the 50 remedy kit by Washington homeopathics. But the parents i spoke to dont seem to find this purchase a needed thing,its easier to call me in panic. But you are correct,wish more parent would realize this....................

Gina Tyler

__________________
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At 06:26 PM 2/8/2006 +0000, you wrote:
>
>Hello to all
>Regards fever
>for some reason these couple of weeks so many patients with 'fever',i
>notice that if they cannot get in for an homeopathic appt. parents
>start to panic,see an allopath he gives antibiotics ( the lazy
>prescription method give everyboby and anybody antibiotics......oh my
>god when will these allopaths learn!)
>Then its off to the drugstore to get Motrin,or Tylenol.................
>What i notice is that the ones that do this get a severe suppression of
>their fever thus when they start taking a remedy there is a reoccurance
>of aggravated fever. More panic phonecalls from parents........
>When you take a remedy right away for fever the symptoms do not get out
>of hand,it takes it's course and departs the body with grace as it
>should.
>Gina Tyler
>
>

You have hit it spot-in
I see the same thing.
I teach and teach and teach until I think I can teach no more about all of
the above.
When we will people really understand?
Sheri

>
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Hi, Gina. I'm actually thinking of making the purchase of a kit a
prerequisite for my patients who wish to use homeopathic remedies for acute
treatment and consult me about it. I wonder what success anyone else has
had with that approach?

Rosemamry


----- Original Message -----
From: <homeolist (AT) otherhealth (DOT) com>
To: <homeopathy (AT) homeolist (DOT) com>
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 10:28 AM
Subject: [H] Re: fever was 1918 flu epidemic


>
> Dear DCR
> Good idea,thanks
> I have tried something like that using the 50 remedy kit by Washington
> homeopathics. But the parents i spoke to dont seem to find this
> purchase a needed thing,its easier to call me in panic. But you are
> correct,wish more parent would realize this....................
>
> Gina Tyler
>
>
> --
> Gina
>
> Senior member also known by name G.Tyler 496posts
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Gina's Profile: http://www.otherhealth.com/members/gina.html
> View this thread: fever was 1918 flu epidemic
>
>

Most of my patients have taken my online intro to homeopathy course so we are on the same page. I also talk with them about allopathic meds including tylenol etc. I teach them about suppressing of symptoms and the problems with that. I teach them about the benefit of fever. So I rarely have any problem. And yes, the all have kits...........but because they also have taken my class where I recommend them.

I find once they understand the dangers of allopathic meds and fever reducers including 'why', and they are able to reach me, they are less likely to panic.

I see it a lot with people on my email lists who are just starting to learn (I should have been clearer in my original reply to Gina).