It sure could be helpful to know what interventions were used in the
cases of kids who died or had severe effects...

On Thursday, January 5, 2006, at 06:22 PM, Luise Kunkle wrote:

>
> After being admonished to find out about measles I googled -
>
> Having so far considered measles not to be a severe illness, I was
> surprised to read about the outbreak in Ireland some time ago, where
> the children appeared to be very ill with it and 2 or 3 died.
>
> I then checked for India and found a report that in India the
> mortality rate from measles is 2,5%.
>
> Do the posters from India know more about this?
>
> Regards
>
> Luise
>
>
> --
> One thought to all who, free of doubt,
> So definitely know what's true:
> 2 and 2 is 22 -
> and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
> ==========> ICQ yinyang 96391801 <==========
>

One of them was from malnutrition! More serious than measles ever has
been. Joy
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On 6 Jan 2006, at 18:56, Shannon wrote:

> It sure could be helpful to know what interventions were used in the
> cases of kids who died or had severe effects...
>
> On Thursday, January 5, 2006, at 06:22 PM, Luise Kunkle wrote:
>
>>
>> After being admonished to find out about measles I googled -
>>
>> Having so far considered measles not to be a severe illness, I was
>> surprised to read about the outbreak in Ireland some time ago, where
>> the children appeared to be very ill with it and 2 or 3 died.
>>
>> I then checked for India and found a report that in India the
>> mortality rate from measles is 2,5%.
>>
>> Do the posters from India know more about this?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Luise

We never know:
1. the truth of the numbers - reported or confirmed or totally made up in some countries
2. the health of the children who died
3. treatments for the children who died
4. toxic exposures
5. recent vaccinations they received
6. vaccination status - were they vaccinated for this very disease

We will never know

Hi Luise,

I"m not a great one for gathering statistics. BUt yes, measles does have some mortality rate here. It is related to various factors:
Malnutrition and poverty
Suppression of eruptions
Basically sickly child for various reasons including bad hygeine.
Other situations may be a strong syphilitic miasmatic family history

The most common complications of measles are respiratory distress with pneumonia, and pan-encephalitis, or SSPE along with evidence of severe mental retardation.
Sorry, this is off the cuff. If you need specific information, I"ll have to read it up.
Leela

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Hello all,

Acute miasms like measles do kill the weakest children in India and
other third world countries because they are malnourished and living under
very stressful conditions. These weaker children also suffer the most
sequels and never-well-since syndromes. These are the same children who
react very negatively to immunizations for the same reasons! These are the
highest risk cases for the natural disease as well as the man made
vaccines. Homoeopathy can go a long way in helping to treat such acute
miasms but these children need food, clothing, housing and education. We
will not see a decrease in mortality rates through more immunizations and
drug treatments. The cause is poverty and it must be removed by reaching
the goals of health as a positive state for all.

I don't think that measles should be looked at as it is not dangerous,
especially in weaker children. It obviously can cause some serious problems
but so do the immunizations. This is a vicious circle. Homoeopaths have
offered an alternative to drugs and immunization for nearly 200 years. If
we had just a fraction of the money spent on orthodox drugs and
immunization we could prove our method was effective and provide
prophylactic remedies and treatment to the masses. Genus remedies and
nosode prophylaxis are suited to mass campaigns. We also must eradicate
poverty, malnutrition and poor hygiene which is a great challenge. No
amount of drugs and vaccines is going to solve many of the root causes
among the poor. There are pockets of poverty all over the world including
the USA and Europe. This is a global problem for the poor and disenfranchised.

Sincerely, David Little

Hi David,

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006, David Little wrote:

>
> Hello all,
>
> Acute miasms like measles do kill the weakest children in India and other
> third world countries because they are malnourished and living under very
> stressful conditions. These weaker children also suffer the most sequels and
> never-well-since syndromes. These are the same children who react very
> negatively to immunizations for the same reasons! These are the highest risk
> cases for the natural disease as well as the man made vaccines. Homoeopathy
> can go a long way in helping to treat such acute miasms but these children
> need food, clothing, housing and education. We will not see a decrease in
> mortality rates through more immunizations and drug treatments. The cause is
> poverty and it must be removed by reaching the goals of health as a positive
> state for all.
>
> I don't think that measles should be looked at as it is not dangerous,
> especially in weaker children. It obviously can cause some serious problems
> but so do the immunizations. This is a vicious circle. Homoeopaths have
> offered an alternative to drugs and immunization for nearly 200 years. If we
> had just a fraction of the money spent on orthodox drugs and immunization we
> could prove our method was effective and provide prophylactic remedies and
> treatment to the masses. Genus remedies and nosode prophylaxis are suited to
> mass campaigns.

Yes, yes, yes.

Let us show that we can offer a much better solution to the epidemics
etc. than vaccinations - FOR ALL.

We also must eradicate poverty, malnutrition and poor hygiene
> which is a great challenge. No amount of drugs and vaccines is going to solve
> many of the root causes among the poor. There are pockets of poverty all over
> the world including the USA and Europe. This is a global problem for the poor
> and disenfranchised.
>
Of course - but the homeopathic brotherhood is a little overtaxed with
this. We should of course do what we can, like every one. But our
special task as homeopaths is to work on the homeopathic aspect.

Regards

Luise

>

--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
==========> ICQ yinyang 96391801 <==========

Thank you David Little,

I share your opinion about where the focus should be in this world. I
do not have anything to add safe for the fact that these truths must be
expressed as often as needed so that the message come through and be
heard by as many people as possible and as soon as possible.

Thank you for your input.

Michelle Dubé, Hom.D.
Shefford, Quebec.





De: David Little <little@simillimum.com>
Date: 8 janvier 2006 03:27:58 GMT-05:00
À: homeopathy@homeolist.com
Objet: Rép : [H] measles/India

Hello all,

Acute miasms like measles do kill the weakest children in India and
other third world countries because they are malnourished and living
under very stressful conditions. These weaker children also suffer the
most sequels and never-well-since syndromes. These are the same
children who react very negatively to immunizations for the same
reasons! These are the highest risk cases for the natural disease as
well as the man made vaccines. Homoeopathy can go a long way in helping
to treat such acute miasms but these children need food, clothing,
housing and education. We will not see a decrease in mortality rates
through more immunizations and drug treatments. The cause is poverty
and it must be removed by reaching the goals of health as a positive
state for all.

I don't think that measles should be looked at as it is not
dangerous, especially in weaker children. It obviously can cause some
serious problems but so do the immunizations. This is a vicious circle.
Homoeopaths have offered an alternative to drugs and immunization for
nearly 200 years. If we had just a fraction of the money spent on
orthodox drugs and immunization we could prove our method was effective
and provide prophylactic remedies and treatment to the masses. Genus
remedies and nosode prophylaxis are suited to mass campaigns. We also
must eradicate poverty, malnutrition and poor hygiene which is a great
challenge. No amount of drugs and vaccines is going to solve many of
the root causes among the poor. There are pockets of poverty all over
the world including the USA and Europe. This is a global problem for
the poor and disenfranchised.

Sincerely, David Little
Michelle Dubé
Présidente
MFB Communication-Marketing
Tél. : 450-776-3515