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Old 29th December 2005, 11:45 AM
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A neighbor's 21 year-old son had a car accident about two years ago and was left paralyzed. I'm not sure whether he has bladder or sphincter control but I have noticed empty boxes of hospital grade Depends, which are adult diapers, put out for recycling. He might also be sexually impaired. From what I can observe, the boy has some upper body movement. He now uses an electric wheelchair with a special headrest which seems to keep his neck aligned straight. Recently, he started driving a modified minivan where the driver's seat was removed so he can sit in the wheelchair and drive the van, I guess by pushing buttons.

My brief read about spinal cord injuries says that there are lesions that have grown on the spinal cord areas affected causing the nerve damage and paralysis. There seems to be hope that stem cell transplants might help regenerate nerve cells. Some patients require a drug to reduce spasticity which can develop.

While I may be denied the opportunity to try because this is an old-fashioned wary family from Russia, I thought to offer the family Hypericum to give the boy. The materia medica does mention spinal cord.

Does anyone think this could help??? If so, what potency and how often? Given the severity of injury I was thinking 1M or 10M or 50M to start and see if there was a response. Likely this would require lots of repetition. Any other remedies?

I would not want to offer this family a ray of hope and then find I misled them but it's a shame to see someone have to grow up this way when ***maybe*** homeopathy can help, if not fully possibly partially. Also, if there were homeopathic "problems", I may not be equipped to handle them and there are no local homeopaths available.

Regards,

Susan

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Old 30th December 2005, 02:37 AM
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Dear susan
of course there is the possibility of homeopathy helping,but you are asking a heavy question,what your asking about what remedy to give cannot be done here on a forum or any forum. This is a difficult situation one must have a trained classical homeopath do the entire case taking in person. A student or layperson cannot possibly handle the follow up visits,changes of remedies or changes of potency.The allopathic drugs he is on right now can also be causing secondary problems for him ,this needs to be addressed aswell.
His mental/emotional well being also need attention,all of this can only be put into the trusting hands of a trained homeopath,let us know your location we will help you find a local address.
All the best
Gina Tyler
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Gina,

Thanks for taking the time to compose such a compassionate response. I understand what you are saying - of course this is a complex case, constitutionally. But the evolving constitutional issues, like effects from trauma, fright, etc. should not preclude the fact that this is an acute that has affected the longterm constitutional picture. As an acute, instant damage to the spinal cord, a remedy like Hypericum would be the most likely candidate to effect a physical response.

Unfortunately, this is not a family that knows about alternative medicine and would be leery of trying something against their allopath's suggestion especially since it was declared by the "expert" that the paralysis is permanent. If I were to approach them, as you say, with the vague idea of "the possibility of homeopathy helping" but you first need a classical homeopath, one could also say many alternative modalities, i.e.; acupuncture/TCM, cranial-sacral, etc., could "possibly" help. Why go to a homeopath when It's certainly easier in this area, and has more public recognition and acceptance, to find an acupuncturist/TCM vs.a homeopath. I felt by trying a remedy like Hypericum, maybe there would be some type of physical response, even if just the hint of nerve sensation, that can then lead them to explore, as you suggest, more rigorous constitutional treatment.

I don't expect there are many spinal cord injury patients that have sort out a homeopath, so maybe I should rephrase my inquiry. Are there any known cases of spinal cord injury patients who were paralyzed that have been helped by homeopathy to reverse their paralysis?

Best regards,

Susan


Gina wrote:

"Dear susan
of course there is the possibility of homeopathy helping,but you are asking a heavy question,what your asking about what remedy to give cannot be done here on a forum or any forum. This is a difficult situation one must have a trained classical homeopath do the entire case taking in person. A student or layperson cannot possibly handle the follow up visits,changes of remedies or changes of potency.The allopathic drugs he is on right now can also be causing secondary problems for him ,this needs to be addressed aswell.
His mental/emotional well being also need attention,all of this can only be put into the trusting hands of a trained homeopath,let us know your location we will help you find a local address.
All the best
Gina Tyler"

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Old 30th December 2005, 09:55 AM
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First of all, this is not a "case" but asking for information on treating an acute injury.

Second, it's painfully obvious how little classical homeopathy has progressed vs. allopathy from Hahnemann's day in terms of the depth and breadth of illnesses successfully treated.

Third, the only waste of time is reading messages from a louse.

Happy New Year!


Kenneth Salls" <kenneth_salls@yahoo.com wrote

blissgogo-hpthy@yahoo.com wrote:
>Unfortunately, this is not a family that knows about alternative medicine >and would be leery of trying something against their allopath's suggestion >especially since it was declared by the "expert" that the paralysis is >permanent.


>>>>


Then why are you wasting everybody's time over a useless case?



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Old 30th December 2005, 12:15 PM
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----- Original Message -----
From: <blissgogo-hpthy@yahoo.com>
To: <homeopathy@homeolist.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:41 PM
Subject: [H] Spinal Cord Injuries


> A neighbor's 21 year-old son had a car accident about two years ago and

was left paralyzed. I'm not sure whether he has bladder or sphincter control
but I have noticed empty boxes of hospital grade Depends, which are adult
diapers, put out for recycling. He might also be sexually impaired. From
what I can observe, the boy has some upper body movement. He now uses an
electric wheelchair with a special headrest which seems to keep his neck
aligned straight. Recently, he started driving a modified minivan where the
driver's seat was removed so he can sit in the wheelchair and drive the van,
I guess by pushing buttons.
>
> My brief read about spinal cord injuries says that there are lesions

that have grown on the spinal cord areas affected causing the nerve damage
and paralysis. There seems to be hope that stem cell transplants might help
regenerate nerve cells. Some patients require a drug to reduce spasticity
which can develop.
>
> While I may be denied the opportunity to try because this is an

old-fashioned wary family from Russia, I thought to offer the family
Hypericum to give the boy. The materia medica does mention spinal cord.
>
> Does anyone think this could help??? If so, what potency and how often?

Given the severity of injury I was thinking 1M or 10M or 50M to start and
see if there was a response. Likely this would require lots of repetition.
Any other remedies?
>
> I would not want to offer this family a ray of hope and then find I

misled them but it's a shame to see someone have to grow up this way when
***maybe*** homeopathy can help, if not fully possibly partially. Also, if
there were homeopathic "problems", I may not be equipped to handle them and
there are no local homeopaths available.
>
> Regards,
>
> Susan


Hello Susan,

As far as I know, the reality is, that after a period of 2 years it is
highly unlikely that any natural repair and recuperation is possible to
spinal cord severance. This may be possible in the future with some form of
radical surgical stem cell replacement therapy, but not now. The degree of
paralysis is in relation to the level of spinal cord damage. Cervical damage
results in quadriplegia, below that results in paraplegia.

Certainly, if Hypericum could possibly effect a change, then one would want
to know the potential, and the immediate effects to spinal trauma are
certainly recorded in our homoeopathic Materia Medica. On the other hand,
there are spinal injury patients who have in the first days after trauma
successfully regained limited mobility only to be faced with lifelong,
indescribable neuralgic pain even after minimal movement. Some of these
patients have voluntarily ended their lives in suicide.

This is the predicament we find ourselves in, desperately wanting to help,
but first we need to explore what actually is the case before us. No
able-bodied person easily reconciles such mobility-dependence, 'nappies',
loss of sexual function etc and we can only imagine how it is for the
suddenly dis-abled person who finds themselves in this irreversible
situation. Yet, when we able-bodied people speak to dis-abled people who
live the experience every day it can be quite a different situation. I have
a friend who became quadriplegic after a motor accident during a holiday to
Australia when she was only in her 20's. The *movement* she has encompassed
in her own life since then is far reaching, from a German citizen to legal
Australian resident, from a divorce to a new relationship, from limited
English to a university degree in counselling....On a personal level, well
it's actually hard to describe without sounding euphemistic or patronizing.
In fact it is not just her, it is her family and friends who are also
encompassed in her journey and who have been deeply affected by the overall
experience. All her friends and family have struggled to push her wheelchair
up the steps of public buildings that still deny her wheelchair access at
the end of 2005 - when we can alternately find public funds to land rockets
on the moon and mars!!! Still, I would say, I can't imagine life without the
benefit of knowing that 'secondhand' experience and only she could voice the
intimate experience of living with quadriplegia every day. I would say she
is the *least* disabled person I have ever met in my life and of course,
that has precious little to do with walking. Since my friend has been on
homoeopathic treatment she has not regained the ability to walk, but she
experiences less bladder and pulmonary infections than people in similar
circumstances to her, and she has led a full if not fuller life than the
average able-bodied person in accordance with her abilities and soul
purpose.
This, Susan, is the key, in order to prescribe effective homoeopathic
medicines you need to understand the person in all their capacities, in
front of you, to the best of your own abilities.

Best,
Chris


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Old 30th December 2005, 01:45 PM
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Hi Susan,
Over the years I've heard this kind of question (nerve repair after
traumatic paralysis) come up a few times, but have never heard any
encouraging response. Consensus seems to have been that this sort of
damage goes beyond what an "energetic" therapy can accomplish.

Every now and then I've heard claims repeated of seemingly incredible
things having been accomplished with remedies--growing a third set of
teeth comes to mind, but there must have been others too--but never
from anyone with first-hand, or even second- or third- or
fourth-hand!--experience of such a thing. In my understanding, this is
the kind of situation that comes under Hahnemann's statement that, "A
surgical problem needs a surgical solution"--and the techniques of
surgery have not yet reached that point.

Re possibility of causing nerve regeneration, I would be amazed if that
could be achieved with remedies, and the situation you describe seems
an unlikely venue. I really empathize with your wish that something
could be done, but I think a better direction to focus on, would be
helping him and his family make peace with his present situation. Now
in *that* context much could certainly be done to help!

Best wishes,
Shannon

On Friday, December 30, 2005, at 01:52 AM, <blissgogo-hpthy@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Gina,
>
> Thanks for taking the time to compose such a compassionate response.
> I understand what you are saying - of course this is a complex case,
> constitutionally. But the evolving constitutional issues, like
> effects from trauma, fright, etc. should not preclude the fact that
> this is an acute that has affected the longterm constitutional
> picture. As an acute, instant damage to the spinal cord, a remedy
> like Hypericum would be the most likely candidate to effect a physical
> response.
>
> Unfortunately, this is not a family that knows about alternative
> medicine and would be leery of trying something against their
> allopath's suggestion especially since it was declared by the "expert"
> that the paralysis is permanent. If I were to approach them, as you
> say, with the vague idea of "the possibility of homeopathy helping"
> but you first need a classical homeopath, one could also say many
> alternative modalities, i.e.; acupuncture/TCM, cranial-sacral, etc.,
> could "possibly" help. Why go to a homeopath when It's certainly
> easier in this area, and has more public recognition and acceptance,
> to find an acupuncturist/TCM vs.a homeopath. I felt by trying a
> remedy like Hypericum, maybe there would be some type of physical
> response, even if just the hint of nerve sensation, that can then lead
> them to explore, as you suggest, more rigorous constitutional
> treatment.
>
> I don't expect there are many spinal cord injury patients that have
> sort out a homeopath, so maybe I should rephrase my inquiry. Are
> there any known cases of spinal cord injury patients who were
> paralyzed that have been helped by homeopathy to reverse their
> paralysis?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Susan
>
>
> Gina wrote:
>
> "Dear susan
> of course there is the possibility of homeopathy helping,but you are
> asking a heavy question,what your asking about what remedy to give
> cannot be done here on a forum or any forum. This is a difficult
> situation one must have a trained classical homeopath do the entire
> case taking in person. A student or layperson cannot possibly handle
> the follow up visits,changes of remedies or changes of potency.The
> allopathic drugs he is on right now can also be causing secondary
> problems for him ,this needs to be addressed aswell.
> His mental/emotional well being also need attention,all of this can
> only be put into the trusting hands of a trained homeopath,let us know
> your location we will help you find a local address.
> All the best
> Gina Tyler"
>
>
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Old 30th December 2005, 01:45 PM
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Kenneth's delicate sensibilities are best overlooked...
Susan, questions about what can be achieved in specific situations are
*never* a waste of time, even tho sometimes there's no good answer...
And sometimes we just won't know. Sadly, I *think* this situation is
one of the former, but if you find hints to the contrary, please share
them! I would love to be shown wrong on this one!

(As to your second paragraph there's plenty of room for quibble, but I
won't right now!)
Cheers,
Shannon

On Friday, December 30, 2005, at 03:52 AM, <blissgogo-hpthy@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> First of all, this is not a "case" but asking for information on
> treating an acute injury.
>
> Second, it's painfully obvious how little classical homeopathy has
> progressed vs. allopathy from Hahnemann's day in terms of the depth
> and breadth of illnesses successfully treated.
>
> Third, the only waste of time is reading messages from a louse.
>
> Happy New Year!
>
>
> Kenneth Salls" <kenneth_salls@yahoo.com wrote
>
> blissgogo-hpthy@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Unfortunately, this is not a family that knows about alternative
>> medicine >and would be leery of trying something against their
>> allopath's suggestion >especially since it was declared by the
>> "expert" that the paralysis is >permanent.

>
>>>>>

>
> Then why are you wasting everybody's time over a useless case?
>
>
>
>
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Old 31st December 2005, 01:29 AM
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Dear SUsan,

I'm writing because you have surprised me a bit about "old-fashioned Russian family",
because, being a RUssian, as far as I know most people are very open to all alternative treatment, former communist party leaders often resorted to shaman and
herbal healers, I personally know a couple of such "pribate" healers etc.,
so I would be surprised
that this family would refuse to try something herbal. Homeopathy was known
in RUssia directly from Hahnemann, I recently learned that the most famous
dictionary of RUssian language was written by a homeopath - Vladimir Dal - was a
homeopath by education. Besides, I would still try to suggest them homeopathy,
Hypericum is calld "zveroboy" in Russian and I would be extremely surpirsed if
they do not know it, it is known in RUssian herbal lore for ages and is very widely
used for all sorts of problems,although I'm sure they will be rather cautious, but once
you gain their affection, they'll be very open, if you manage to "press the right
button", if you see what I mean.

SO even if you don't get the boy anywhere with a dose of Hypericum, you'll be probably be able to bring to their attention that there might be a better solution
to his problems, and they might start to look elsewhere. Probably, they'll be also
worrying about the money aspect and insurance... Well, that's a more difficult
thing to overcome. But if one doesn't try, one is sure to get nowhere, so if you
are ready to try to talk to them, please, do so! (Unless you are "easily hurt"
if your words will be left unheard, in which case I would not suggest that you
take any action, of course, for your best interest.)

Regards,

ELena
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Old 31st December 2005, 07:26 AM
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Default A happy and successful New Year 2006 to all.

You wrote:

< There seems to be hope that stem cell transplants might help regenerate nerve cells.>





In Cross Currents, Becker wrote: " Normal geomagnetism is an environmental variable of great consequence when we deal with basic living functions ".
There is a Will, a Cosmic Urge and a "Mind" or Instinct in that consciousness is diffused throughout matter, and need not necessarily have a brain-The Vital Principle ( Chandra Bose, Backster, and others).Outer forms are transitory and unstable, and that the universe is constantly changing its appearances due to the operation of transcendental energies. Local geomagnetism alters biological functions electromagnetically (EPA biologist, Carl Blackman ). Interactions between the Earth's magnetic field and a weak, man-made, low frequency electromagnetic field produces measurable changes such as a major amplification at the cell receptor sites. This makes intercellular communication at the gap junctions very sensitive to weak, oscillating electromagnetic fields.The Vital Energy in Homeopathics or in undifferentiated cells interacts in the L-field ( Burr ) through hormesis in the molecular terrain at the cellular level in tissue regeneration.


You may find this excerpt interesting .

http://www.odemagazine.com/news.php?nID=656

With regards
Lew






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Old 1st January 2006, 07:35 PM
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Hi Susan,

I think that there is no disease or condition that may be considered
incurable by presumption. Energy medicine has no limitations. What may have
limitations is only our understanding about the real healing potential of
energy/vibrational technologies. I believe that there are many gifted energy
healers around the world that might help patients with traumatic paralysis
to recover. Finding the right healer, however, is a matter of Karma. The
patient is the part that should seek his/her healer, not the opposide.

Happy New Year and good luck to you and your neighbor's son.

Christo


----- Original Message -----
From: "Shannon" <shannonnelson@tds.net>
To: <homeopathy@homeolist.com>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Re: Spinal Cord Injuries


> Hi Susan,
> Over the years I've heard this kind of question (nerve repair after
> traumatic paralysis) come up a few times, but have never heard any
> encouraging response. Consensus seems to have been that this sort of
> damage goes beyond what an "energetic" therapy can accomplish.
>
> Every now and then I've heard claims repeated of seemingly incredible
> things having been accomplished with remedies--growing a third set of
> teeth comes to mind, but there must have been others too--but never
> from anyone with first-hand, or even second- or third- or
> fourth-hand!--experience of such a thing. In my understanding, this is
> the kind of situation that comes under Hahnemann's statement that, "A
> surgical problem needs a surgical solution"--and the techniques of
> surgery have not yet reached that point.
>
> Re possibility of causing nerve regeneration, I would be amazed if that
> could be achieved with remedies, and the situation you describe seems
> an unlikely venue. I really empathize with your wish that something
> could be done, but I think a better direction to focus on, would be
> helping him and his family make peace with his present situation. Now
> in *that* context much could certainly be done to help!
>
> Best wishes,
> Shannon
>
> On Friday, December 30, 2005, at 01:52 AM, <blissgogo-hpthy@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Gina,
> >
> > Thanks for taking the time to compose such a compassionate response.
> > I understand what you are saying - of course this is a complex case,
> > constitutionally. But the evolving constitutional issues, like
> > effects from trauma, fright, etc. should not preclude the fact that
> > this is an acute that has affected the longterm constitutional
> > picture. As an acute, instant damage to the spinal cord, a remedy
> > like Hypericum would be the most likely candidate to effect a physical
> > response.
> >
> > Unfortunately, this is not a family that knows about alternative
> > medicine and would be leery of trying something against their
> > allopath's suggestion especially since it was declared by the "expert"
> > that the paralysis is permanent. If I were to approach them, as you
> > say, with the vague idea of "the possibility of homeopathy helping"
> > but you first need a classical homeopath, one could also say many
> > alternative modalities, i.e.; acupuncture/TCM, cranial-sacral, etc.,
> > could "possibly" help. Why go to a homeopath when It's certainly
> > easier in this area, and has more public recognition and acceptance,
> > to find an acupuncturist/TCM vs.a homeopath. I felt by trying a
> > remedy like Hypericum, maybe there would be some type of physical
> > response, even if just the hint of nerve sensation, that can then lead
> > them to explore, as you suggest, more rigorous constitutional
> > treatment.
> >
> > I don't expect there are many spinal cord injury patients that have
> > sort out a homeopath, so maybe I should rephrase my inquiry. Are
> > there any known cases of spinal cord injury patients who were
> > paralyzed that have been helped by homeopathy to reverse their
> > paralysis?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Susan
> >
> >
> > Gina wrote:
> >
> > "Dear susan
> > of course there is the possibility of homeopathy helping,but you are
> > asking a heavy question,what your asking about what remedy to give
> > cannot be done here on a forum or any forum. This is a difficult
> > situation one must have a trained classical homeopath do the entire
> > case taking in person. A student or layperson cannot possibly handle
> > the follow up visits,changes of remedies or changes of potency.The
> > allopathic drugs he is on right now can also be causing secondary
> > problems for him ,this needs to be addressed aswell.
> > His mental/emotional well being also need attention,all of this can
> > only be put into the trusting hands of a trained homeopath,let us know
> > your location we will help you find a local address.
> > All the best
> > Gina Tyler"
> >
> >
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