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Old 20th November 2005, 11:25 AM
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Default GUMBOIL -- explanation needed

Hi,

Please, can anyone explain to me what is a gumboil, how does it look and most important: in what does it differ from an ABSCESS in the gum or tooth?

Thanks

Rafy
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Old 20th November 2005, 06:42 PM
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Dear Rafy,

I know you could have found this in a Google search as i did --- but here it is anyway from Dr. Lockie's site

Best
Robyn

http://www.drlockie.com/disease/tooth.htm
Tooth abscess

Pus-filled cavity in root of decaying or dead tooth, formed as bacteria infect and destroy pulp and produce toxins; tooth very tender when tapped, painful to chew on, with a persistent ache or throb, and pain sometimes radiating along side of nose or across other teeth; if left untreated, pus seeps out through root, erodes a canal through adjacent bone, and causes a gumboil, a painful swelling on the gum. Up to this point, toxins are sealed off from rest of body, but if gumboil bursts, releasing foul-tasting pus into mouth and relieving pain, there may be Fever and the lymph glands in neck and face may swell in an effort to neutralise the toxins before they get into general circulation and cause Septicaemia. Because of risk of blood poisoning, consult your doctor if there is no improvement in 12 hours if a gumboil bursts, or if abscess seems to be enlarging rapidly; antibiotics may be prescribed to prevent infection spreading.

Standard treatment of a tooth abscess is to drain pus and then disinfect and fill tooth, or remove tip of root (an apicectomy) if it cannot be disinfected, or take the tooth out.

Specific remedies to be taken every hour for up to 10 doses while waiting for dental treatment

a.. Copious saliva, spongy gums Mercurius 30c

b.. First hint of an abscess, tooth and surrounding gum feel hot, mouth dry Belladonna 30c

c.. Gumboil well developed and very painful, pain aggravated by both hot and cold things in mouth Silicea 30c

d.. Gumboils starts to discharge pus Gunpowder 30c

Self-help: Wash mouth every 4 hours with a solution of Hypericum and Calendula (5 drops of mother tincture of each to 0.25 litre [1/2 pint warm water)
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Old 21st November 2005, 05:05 PM
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Hi Rafy,
I have personal experience with gumboils. For me it is an abscess (pus
filled pocket) but it is not a tooth that is abscessed. The teeth are fine
but when I get a gumboil the teeth hurt because the swelling and inflamtion
must put pressure on the nerves of the teeth...Ooooh it is painful ( ;-o ) I
have found that my gumboils appear in only one spot in my mouth and it is
upper left between the gum and cheek above my wisdom tooth. If the abscess
has come to a head lancing it will take away the pain. Now here is the
really interesting part. I get these gumboils if I eat any amount of wheat
at all. I basically eat a somewhat low carbohydrate diet with almost no
wheat. If I eat one mouthful of something made from wheat I am ok but if I
eat say a whole slice of bread orcake or some such thing for one or two days
in a row I will surely get a gumboil. My homeopath has treats me
constitutionally with Lachesis and Silicea ( I ususally kind of alternate
between the two) and interestingly when I have a gumboil the two remedies
taken one after the other will either cause the boil to reabsorb or break
open within minutes.

Don't know if this helps to clearify anything for you or not.
warm regards
carol
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From: HomeoDidact
Date: 11/20/05 05:28:26
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Subject: [H] GUMBOIL -- explanation needed

Hi,

Please, can anyone explain to me what is a gumboil, how does it look and
most important: in what does it differ from an ABSCESS in the gum or tooth?

Thanks

Rafy
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Old 28th November 2005, 10:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeoDidact
Please, can anyone explain to me what is a gumboil, how does it look and most important: in what does it differ from an ABSCESS in the gum or tooth?
I am finding different interpretations of this but I will try to contribute what I can.

A tooth abscess is just what the previous poster posted from Lockie's definition. I believe what makes a tooth abscess different from a periodontal abscess is that a tooth abscess starts from the decaying or damaged tooth inititally in the pulp of the tooth and affects the tip of the tooth's root(s). Eventually, an abscess forms at the tips, and then on the gums. However, a periodontal abscess can affect only the gums and not the pulp. But left untreated, both can become serious situations (and most dentists will want to address such an abscess as quickly as possible either with a root canal, an extraction, gum surgery or a combination of all).

Abscesses are not to be confused with canker sores or fever blisters.
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Old 29th November 2005, 05:15 PM
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However, this can be treated with homoeopathy successfully. I have had
cases - the most recent being a child whose dentist did not want to pull
the tooth yet - the abcess cleared and the tooth is still ok 6 months later.

homeolist@otherhealth.com wrote:

>HomeoDidact Wrote:
>
>
>>Please, can anyone explain to me what is a gumboil, how does it look and
>>most important: in what does it differ from an ABSCESS in the gum or
>>tooth?
>>
>>

>
>I am finding different interpretations of this but I will try to
>contribute what I can.
>
>A tooth abscess is just what the previous poster posted from Lockie's
>definition. I believe what makes a tooth abscess different from a
>periodontal abscess is that a tooth abscess starts from the decaying or
>damaged tooth inititally in the pulp of the tooth and affects the tip of
>the tooth's root(s). Eventually, an abscess forms at the tips, and then
>on the gums. However, a periodontal abscess can affect only the gums
>and not the pulp. But left untreated, both can become serious
>situations (and most dentists will want to address such an abscess as
>quickly as possible either with a root canal, an extraction, gum
>surgery or a combination of all).
>
>Abscesses are not to be confused with canker sores or fever blisters.
>
>
>
>

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Old 29th November 2005, 10:19 PM
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However, this can be treated with homoeopathy successfully. I have had cases - the most recent being a child whose dentist did not want to pull the tooth yet - the abcess cleared and the tooth is still ok 6 months later.
Hi Chris,
This is what I am presently battling too, using homeopathy as my frontline attack.

I've done the traditional alopathic method with a dentist in the past and ended up with a poorly done root canal treatment (RCT) which eventually led to an extraction and finally a bridge.

This time, I figure the dentist will do the same thing (yes, both times the major work resulted in the dentist botching the job -- this time, the dentist dismissed my complaints the re-filling was a bit high side and thus, the tooth became aggravated). Thus far, I think I'm making headway taking the homeopathic route.

Just out of my usual curiosity, what series of remedies did you use in the treatment of the child you exampled (and previous experiences), Chris???

Many thanks!
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Old 30th November 2005, 08:45 AM
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No series of remedies, just the indicated remedy. Silica in one case,
Lycopodium in another - I would have to go through my notes to get
details. Is someone taking your case and prescribing?

homeolist@otherhealth.com wrote:

>Chris Newenham Wrote:
>
>
>>However, this can be treated with homoeopathy successfully. I have had
>>cases - the most recent being a child whose dentist did not want to
>>pull the tooth yet - the abcess cleared and the tooth is still ok 6
>>months later.Hi Chris,
>>
>>

>This is what I am presently battling too, using homeopathy as my
>frontline attack.
>
>I've done the traditional alopathic method with a dentist in the past
>and ended up with a poorly done root canal treatment (RCT) which
>eventually led to an extraction and finally a bridge.
>
>This time, I figure the dentist will do the same thing (yes, both times
>the major work resulted in the dentist botching the job -- this time,
>the dentist dismissed my complaints the re-filling was a bit high side
>and thus, the tooth became aggravated). Thus far, I think I'm making
>headway taking the homeopathic route.
>
>Just out of my usual curiosity, what series of remedies did you use in
>the treatment of the child you exampled (and previous experiences),
>Chris???
>
>Many thanks!
>
>
>
>

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Old 30th November 2005, 09:34 AM
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Is someone taking your case and prescribing?

Nope. Just self-prescribing at the moment. So far so good. But ultimately, I will need professional advice as I move forward.
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Old 18th December 2005, 06:08 PM
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Default Gum Boil/Abscess in process

Hello,

This is my 2nd time writing as my post did not post a few moments ago, so hopefully I will remember everthing I wrote previously.

I have been dealing with a gum boil/abscess for about a week now - and this morning it seems to be releasing pus. 8 months ago I had a pulp cap instead of a root canal on a back molar. It has worked just fine for 8 months. The abscess/pain started during my vacation and I'm wondering if it had anything to do with eating anything out of my normal diet (I am primarily a vegetarian but ate fried calamari twice during my vacation :)

For the past 2 days I have taken Hepar Sulph but last night I took one dose of Mercurius Solubilis. Pain (throbbing) has been worse (sometimes really bad) at night, and helped with heat (heating pad on cheek). I have been swishing my mouth initially with Oregano Oil, but now with a holistic dental rinse that contains echinacea/goldenseal/coQ-10/ menthol etc. Have been using advil to address the pain in the middle of the night.

I have taken echinacea/goldenseal every day for the past week - and stepping it up today since the pus is discharging.

Any advice on anything I should be doing to protect myself during the pus discharge process? Any insight/advice would be appreciated!

Thank you!
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Old 18th December 2005, 11:35 PM
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tina
google find a holistic dentist in your area.
how much echinacea/goldenseal are you taking daily it might not be enough?
Also a trained classical homeopath can find the 'well indicated ' hom .remedy for your problem instead of just guessing.

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