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Old 15th November 2005, 11:55 AM
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In a discussion with doctors of different 'pathys, one aspect of homeopathy was reflected by many - that homeopathy is only the teachings of one man, whom the homeopaths hold up as 'God". Homeopathy has made no modern progress with the times, but is steeped in the teachings that are over 200 years old. Any deviation from the teachings of this one old man is considered non homeopathic.

That, I'm afraid, was the general view. They largely accepted that homeopathy did work, in some instances, but how much better would it have been if it was allowed to evolve.

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Old 15th November 2005, 12:35 PM
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They largly accepted that homeopathy did work, in some instances
That always seemed to me to be a very contradictory view. Either homeopathy works or it doesn't. I think the ones who say it only sometimes work don't really believe that it does. Otherwise, they would be more eager to learn how to use it effectively. Or they are still in a this-for-that mentality.
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Old 15th November 2005, 01:12 PM
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Dear Dilweed,

Those who say Homoeopathy rarely works are actually not skeptics. They just can't accept the plain truth before their eyes. In their innermost corners of mind, they will be brooding to have voted their life for a dangerous non healing system.

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Old 15th November 2005, 01:45 PM
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Jeff, To say that homeopathy has made no progress is to miss a great deal of our history...

Even if we do go with the view that "homeopathy" has a specific meaning which was set by its founder / inventor / discoverer, still that leaves a *huge* amount of room for development, and development has been taking place--newer remedies, progressively broader and deeper understanding of older remedies, additional methods of analysis and case management which can turn "incurable" into "curable", new methods of teaching, learning, information management...

What are they objecting to, do you know? Do they see a lack of result, or are they piqued at the limits of the definition (which is certainly not universally accepted in any case), or are they simply unfamiliar with the field?

(As to when "development" becomes "deviation" and thereby "non-homeopathic", that is--as we've seen!--a potentially complicated discussion, which couldn't / shouldn't possibly be of any interest to anyone outside t he field, should it? Why do they care, do you know???)

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Old 15th November 2005, 03:15 PM
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In a discussion with doctors of different 'pathys,
Where, exactly, is this "discussion" being held?


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one aspect of homeopathy was reflected by many
Who, exactly?
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Old 15th November 2005, 04:35 PM
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To say that homeopathy has made no progress is to miss a great deal of our history
They are certainly not interested in history!

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Even if we do go with the view that "homeopathy" has a specific meaning which was set by its founder / inventor / discoverer,(?) still that leaves a *huge* amount of room for development,(?) and development has been taking place--newer remedies
They too have newer remedies all the time

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progressively broader and deeper
But the same form of application

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understanding of older remedies
And SH didn't have that understanding?

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additional methods of analysis and case management which can turn "incurable" into "curable"
What's new here?

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new methods of teaching, learning, information management...
Still S.H's way- 200+ years old!

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What are they objecting to, do you know? Do they see a lack of result
They are cynical

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or are they piqued at the limits of the definition (which is certainly not universally accepted in any case)
It is, Shannon - accepted

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or are they simply unfamiliar with the field?
Definitely unfamiliar

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(As to when "development" becomes "deviation" and thereby "non-homeopathic"
What is non-homeopathic?

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that is--as we've seen!--a potentially complicated discussion, which couldn't / shouldn't possibly be of any interest to anyone outside t he field, should it? Why do they care, do you know???)
Of course they care - their bread is being pulled from their mouths


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Old 15th November 2005, 04:45 PM
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Where, exactly, is this "discussion" being held?
I just related what took place outside the National Television Centre in Delhi... does it matter, an awful lot, where it took place? Are we losing the point?

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Old 15th November 2005, 05:47 PM
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I just related what took place outside the National Television Centre in Delhi... does it matter, an awful lot, where it took place? Are we losing
the point?
I think it does matter (and thanks for passing it on). The statement made in India, in my opinion, has rather different ramifications than if it were made by a group of physicians here in the U.S. It was disappointing to me because I thought homeopathy was better accepted and understood by India's medical community.

I still think it smacks of the attitude of saying someone is a little pregnant. Either you accept the most basic concept of like-cures-like, or you don't.
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Old 15th November 2005, 06:35 PM
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Hi Shannon,

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To say that homeopathy has made no progress is to miss a great deal of our history...
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Even if we do go with the view that "homeopathy" has a specific meaning which was set by its founder / inventor / discoverer, still that leaves a *huge* amount of room for development, and development has been taking place--newer remedies, progressively broader and deeper understanding of older remedies, additional methods of analysis and case management which can turn "incurable" into "curable", new methods of teaching, learning, information management...
Does that mean you think that homeopaths have better results now than had Hahnemann, V. Boenninghausen, Hering, Kent, Nash, Burnett et al?

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Old 15th November 2005, 07:05 PM
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Hi Jeff,

(I'm working on reply to your last...) What was the occasion, tho? I'm interested that there was being such a heated public discussion about it!

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