I am copying below a post that I have just read with my response which I believe should be of interest to Homeopaths.

Re: Weight Reduction with Nat Phos 6x. Latest News From libra on 2005-10-13
Hi Joe,

After reading your posts in this forum, I advised my daughter 40 years to take Nat Phos 6x for weight reduction. She inadvertently took Natrum Sulph 6x. In her own words, after half an hour of taking first dose of Natrum Sulph 6x I had a mild attack of Bronchial congestion and cough with burning sensation in the Bronchial tube. When I took second dose after dinner, half an hour thereafter, I again had the above symptoms with greater intensity and in addition some itching in the Bronchial tube, lungs and inside of the back. At this I realized that I was taking wrong medicine. By the next morning all these symptoms subsided. By the way I had these symptoms in my childhood.
I have seen for the first time that a first dose of homeopathic medicine brought out the old symptoms. Will you offer comments on this. Should she take Natrum Sulph 6x for clearing her old symptoms before starting Natrum Phos 6x for weight reduction. Thanks
LIBRA

Nat Sulph 6x taken accidentally From Joe De Livera on 2005-10-13
To Libra

Thank you for having brought the reaction that your daughter had when she took Nat Sulph 6x instead of Nat Phos 6x. The reaction that she had was what is known as Proving the remedy. You may know that Homeopathy was born when Hahnemann discovered that if large doses of Quinine extract were used that symptoms similar to Malaria were noticed with rigors and high temperature.

Your daughter was proving the remedy which I prescribe in almost all cases of Asthma but for this ailment a higher potency of it Nat Sulph 6c is used which is far less a dose when compared with Nat Sulph 6x. The 6x potency is exactly 1/1Millionth of the salt Sodium Sulphate or Glauber's Salt which is a chemical commonly used in the formulation of medical drugs. Nat Sulph 6c is exactly 1 Million Millionth of this salt and it will be observed that it is 1 Million times the dose that your daughter used accidentally. However I am glad to note that no damage was done and I shall remember this news that you were kind enough to record on this forum.

I hope that other Homeopaths will note this phenomenon as this all contributes to the study of Homeopathy. Incidents such as this help us to remember more forcefully that what we have studied in out texts have been formulated by the classical authors after actual tests (provings) were made by them over the past 150 years.

I notice that you have used the first person 'I' to report this case of your daughter who according to you, took the Nat Sulph 6x instead of the Nat Phos 6x by mistake. Please clarify who used the Nat Sulph 6x. You or your daughter ?

There is no need for your daughter to take any medication except the Nat Phos 6x dose 2 tablets after both lunch and dinner, for weight reduction. Please tell her that the taboos of coffee and cold drinks must not be used during treatment as weight reduction does not occur if these taboos are used.

Thank you once again for having brought this accidental use of Nat Sulph 6x instead of Nat Phos 6x to my attention.

Please report your daughter's response to the Nat Phos 6x in a week when you can expect a drop in her weight of at least 1 pound.

Joe De Livera

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I once used Nat Sul 1m to cure a patient who was allergic to his dog!.

He had some of the symptoms of asthma.

Hi Joe
Where can we get these items. For example, I stay in Bangalore, sometimes in Chennai. But I cannot ask the local shop keepers here for Spring Water. They would not understand. Is there any other commonly used term for this? Or will a bottled drinking water like Bisleri suffice? Also, will the local medical shops understand Nat Sulph 6c? Or should I go to some Homeopathy medical shop? Sorry about my ignorance on Homeopathy. But I want to try this desperately on my Mother.
She started having wheezing about 4 years back. She never has frequent cold or anything. But has cough and wheezing constantly. Basically, if she stands up and walks even a few steps, she starts panting. She just cannot do anything that involves a little bit of physical effort. She has been on Rotohalers for years, but it just gives some immediate releif, but basically her condition has become worse and worse as years passed by. And it is not seasonal, she has this throughout the year. She used to do a lot of household work all by herself and also go for job until 4 years back. But now she is just not able to even walk a few steps :-((. Especially, it will take about 10 minutes for her to climb a normal stair case of say 15 steps. And once she is up, she will just sit down immediately panting. Please advice on some effective treatment. She and I have been literally on tears frequently because of the trauma she is undergoing. Can her trauma be cured at all? If yes, how fast? And how? Please help us out.

IT is too hard to see a good homeopath in Bangalore or Chennai?
D.r Leela

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Hi Leela
I wanted to try this remedy first.
This is because, she had tried many kinds of medicines. She even saw a homeopath a year or two back. But nothing has worked. I am afraid, her condition is so bad that she just cannot keep trying the medication for a long time without seeing any improvement. This is what happened on her visit to a homeopath. She consumed the medication for months, but not even a little improvement. As I said her wheezing is not seasonal, it stays with her always. Not because of her stubbornness, but out of her frustration and trauma, she had to again revert back to her usual rotohalers, nebuliser etc. which atleast gave her some immediate releif to do some of her day to day activities.
Please do not mistake me, but I thought I will give this medication kindly suggested by Joe, a try first. Please offer me your suggestions.

I was interested to note that in spite of the many negative comments that you would surely have seen in the posts above by Cellsalts, Hans Weitbrecht and Kayveeh that you decided to ask me for advice on your mother's Asthma. I also noticed that Dr Leela has also urged you to consult a homeopath in your own city.

I believe that their joint attitude against my method of cure is because I do not abide by the strict classical method of treatment which these homeopaths use as they have been all brainwashed into believing that it is only their classical method of treatment that can help cure an ailment like your mother's Asthma. I can assure you however that it is only very rarely that my method fails as the results are visible in a few hours or days.

The method I use is the direct method used in medicine to treat the ailment or disease directly with a remedy, instead of the classical homeopathic method where the causative factors and the ailment are repertorized and the remedy identified after a consultation which usually takes about an hour.

Answers to your queries:

You can get Nat Sulph 6c in both Bangalore and in Chennai in any Homeopathic Pharmacy. Suggest you get the liquid remedy in Ethanol which you can get in 10ml plastic bottles with dropper which you can use to activate a 500ml bottle of Spring water which you can purchase from any supermarket. I am not familiar with the brand Bisleri but as long as it is not mineral water which fizzes it is acceptable. The spring water I referred to is water from deep bore wells where the water is not contaminated.

I presume that you have already read the method of treatment but I shall repeat the instructions below:

Insert 2-3 drops Nat Sulph 6c into the 500ml bottle of water.
Shake the bottle hard to ensure bubbles. This is termed succussion in Homeopathy.
Pour out a teaspoonful and mix it into half cup of the same water from another bottle. After gently stirring it give it to your mother to sip, just once daily. Please note that the balance of the cup cannot be used on the following day.

Your mother should experience relief within 3 days or sooner after starting this therapy. This dosage can be safely maintained throughout her life. However when she experiences positive relief she may use the remedy every other day or less frequently.

If however she does not respond you may give her the teaspoonful direct from the bottle for the first few days, when the remedy is less diluted.

If she has an attack of Asthma when she cannot breathe, the remedy to be used is Ars Alb 200c. 4 pellets constitute a dose and this is given under the tongue and the attack usually subsides within about 20 minutes.

I would also request you to please have an ECG taken of your mother to rule out any heart problems.

Please report response in a few weeks after you commence treatment.

Joe De Livera

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Hi Joe
Thanks a lot for the prompt response.
My mother does not have "an attack" as such from nowhere. I have noticed such a concept called "attack" in some of my friends and relatives. But in the case of my mother, she has never got an attack from nowhere. She invariably starts panting if she gets up and walks a few steps, or lifts some small not-so-heavy thing and displaces it. Or when she bathes etc. Basically any physical activity.
Another thing was, she had gone to the US for 3 months last year. However, there her problem subsided a lot despite not having the medication she carried with her. She was able to walk for long distances. Something that seemed miraculous. The only problem she had was in climbing stairs. All this made us also believe that her problem was more because of the pollution that exists in India :-(.

Thanks once again for listening and explaining patiently Joe. I am going to give her this treatment for sure, within a few days. And will get back to you on the result.

Thanks
Mahesh

I am aware that I have caused many ripples in Homeopathic circles by advocating treatment of the ailment directly in a manner that is akin to the standard allopathic manner of prescribing. I have been advised that my method was not advocated by Hahnemann and others of the classical school and must therefore not be used by me in the treatment of any patients. It is fortunate that I only treat patients who have discovered me and have come to learn that my own methods of healing have in some cases worked miracles of healing which the classical school cannot perhaps emulate. I also treat all my patients free of charge and although I am not qualified they seem to locate me although I am not prominent in homeopathic circles in Colombo where I live.

I have also been warned that my method invariably causes other more serious repercussions to the patient like Asthma following a cure of Eczema or vice versa etc. However I have to record that I have never experienced this phenomenon so far although I have been successful in curing many chronic patients who suffered from these ailments for many years records of which I have described on this and other forums.

I would like to copy a post that I received today on the ABC forum where a classical homeopath Fredrik L A has referred to my method of healing with Homeopathic remedies which he has been following for some time which may be of interest to the classical school of Homeopaths. As far as I am concerned I shall continue to use my own direct approach formula where I treat the disease in the standard allopathic manner and if it does not have the desired response, which I must state here is very rarely, or I am confronted with an ailment which I am not familiar with, I refer the case to my Radar 9.1 software for diagnosis and the prescription for the treatment of the ailment.


http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/40400/


Re: Nat Sulph 6x can cause symptoms of Asthma
From Fredrik L.A
on 2006-05-05
This is an excellent post Joe. Good job! :)

Re: Nat Sulph 6x can cause symptoms of Asthma
From Joe De Livera
on 2006-05-06
Thank you for the compliment. I am glad that you bumped it up to enable others to also read it.

This is the type of sharing that we can all do on the ABC to enable others to also open their eyes to the realities of Homeopathy.

It is sad to see the attitude of some homeopaths, some of them classical and others pseudo classical who have attacked me in the past, perhaps in the hope that I will wilt under their attacks and withdraw from the forum. This has not happenned up to now as others who have read my posts and have benefited from my advice, often rush to my defense.

After all it is not the method, classical or otherwise that matters to the patient who posts on the forum seeking a cure. He does so in the hope of a quick recovery which I usually provide with the assistance of a few others who use remedies like I do directly to treat the ailment and not only the causative symptoms which the classical types use which usually do not work in curing ailments like colds, coughs, headaches, asthma and eczema to name a few.

Re: Nat Sulph 6x can cause symptoms of Asthma
From Fredrik L.A
on 2006-05-06
Dear Joe!

You are a blessing to many people Joe, and I know that many have noticed. If your way of prescribing can introduce people unknown to the broad use of homeopathy I am pro. But when prescribing this way, it must be a routine to always recommend that the patient continue to use homeopathy seeking a professional after the main problems are solved. Only on a personal consultation one can go deep into the case so that one can be enlightened for the rest of ones life, with the magic of homeopathy.

I agree with you on the subject that if one can give a remedy that gives a quick fix for a person in despair, which can convince them that homeopathy works, if the alternative is to use dangerous drugs.

So i see a important role for you Joe in the future of homeopathy: As a gatekeeper which introduces the masses to the wonders of homeopathy!

Keep up your noble work Joe, and remember to advice the patients you help on this forum to seek deeper into the art of healing through homeopathy, when they feel reliefe of their problems from your prescriptions.

And do not forget these wise words on your way Joe:

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
--- Arthur Schopenhauer ---


Fredrik

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I am a student in homeopathy and just want to say that I like your posts Joe.

My son, who is now 19, has to take this as he has a ringing in the ears prescribed by a homeopath here. He had a fall when he was around 10 years old. There was a small bruise in the x-ray and he had blanked out for a minute. There was no apparent danger then. I dont know if this caused it. He also had an ENT operation done when he was 5 years old. A tube was inserted into his ears to drain the liquid which had accumilated causing a hearing loss. But he is ok after that.

In the meantime when he was 13 got into a depression and was diagonised as Bipolar as he had said that he was hearing sounds. Just recently he realised that this was a ringing in the ear as he heard me complain about it. He was on Risperdal for a year and then on Effexol and Seroquel for another year. Now is off the medication.

Homeopathically he had 18 warts on his hand and took 6ch CAUSTICUM for about a month and all the warts are gone. He then took THUYA 1 M and a genital wart appeared which went away in two days. Now he has to take Nat Sulp 9ch for a week or two which may help the ringing in the ears.

Would like to know what you think about this. Thank you in advance.

To Yesblini

I note that you have already given your son Nat Sulph 9c for the ringing in his ears. I would doubt very much that it can help him as it is not listed in the Boricke's Repertory which I shall copy below:

TINNITUS AURIUM (noises in ears) -- Adren., Am. c., Antipyr., Ars., Bar. c., Bar. m., Bell., Canchal., Carbon. s., Caust., Chenop., Chenop. al., Chin. sal., Chin. s., Cim., Cinch., Cistus dec., Con., Dig., Ferr. p., Ferr. picr., Graph., Hep., Hydr., Jabor., Kali c., Kali iod., Kali m., Kali p., Lach., Lecith., Lith. chlor., Merc., Merc. d., Nat. m., Nat. sal., Parth., Petrol., Phos., Piloc., Plat., Plumb. m., Puls., Sal. ac., Sang., Sang. n., Sil., Sulphon., Sul., Viola od.

Buzzing -- Am. c., Anac., Antipyr., Bar. m., Calc. c., Canchal., Caust., Chenop., Chin. s., Cinch., Dig., Diosc., Ferr. p., Formica., Graph., Iod., iris, Kali p., Kreos., Lach.

Cracking, snapping, when blowing nose, chewing, swallowing, sneezing -- Ambra., Bar. c., Bar. m., Calc. c., Chenop. al., Formica, Gels., Graph., Kali c., Kali m., Lach., Nit. ac., Petrol., Puls., Sil., Thuya.

Hissing -- Can. inc., Chin. s., Dig., Graph., Teucr.

Humming -- Alum., Anac., Calc. c., Caust., Cinch., Ferr. p., Kali p., Kreos., Lyc., Petrol., Puls., Sang., Sep., Tereb.

Intolerance of music -- Acon., Ambra., Bufo., Viola od.

Pulsating, throbbing -- Calc. c., Caust., Ferr. p., Glon., Hep., Hydrobr. ac., Lach., Merc., Morph., Nit. ac., Puls.

Re-echoing of voice, sounds -- Bar. c., Bar. m., Bell., Caust., Col., Lyc., Phos., Tereb.

Ringing as of bells -- Bell., Calc. fl., Carbon. s., Caust., Cham., Chin. s., Cinch., Formica., Graph., Iris, Lach., Mez., Nat. sal., Petrol.

Roaring -- Aur., Calc. c., Caust., Chin. s., Cinch., Elaps, Ferr. p., Graph., Kreos., Lyc., Merc. d., Merc., Nat. m., Nat. sal., Nit. ac., Petrol., Phos. ac., Puls., Sal. ac., Sang., Sil., Strych., Viola od.


Relieved by music -- Ign.


Rushing -- Ferr. p., Gels., Puls.


Singing -- Chin. s., Dig., Graph., Lach., Puls.



I would recommend that you observe your son's response to the Nat Sulph in a few days and let us know how he responded to it.

I hope that other more experienced homeopaths will also consider this case and advice.

I would like to take this opportunity of thanking you for your support of my method of diagnosing and treatment which has borne outstanding results as you can read from the post that I shall make immediately after this post , which deals with the case of an anxious mother of a 9 year old boy who was suffering from chronic Asthma who was treated by many physicians, both medical and homeopathic with no apparent success, discovered in just 2 days on my default remedy Nat Sulph 6c I use for Asthma, that her son was able to sleep for the first time in months, or even perhaps years continuously without waking up for his inhaler.

Joe De Livera

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