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Old 4th October 2005, 06:15 PM
Teresa Kramer
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Dr. de Schepper says (and I have read it elsewhere): better to call it
Hering's Set of Observations than Hering's Law.

I gather from my own treatment that my "deepest" problem--and the last on
the scene since it did not really manifest itself until my
50s--(bipolar/biochemical brain disorder) has not left me. I am nonetheless
very happy to be rid of the rheumatism, hay fever, bursitis/tendonitis etc.
etc.--not to mention chronic severe sinusitis and pre-cancerous cervix that
have remained cured now for 7 years after my first bout of H treatment.

I would love to stand corrected if I am misunderstanding something here.
Teresa (in VA)

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Hering first introduced the law of direction of symptoms, from with in
out, from above downward, in reverse order of their appearance. By the
knowledge of correspondence of organs your able to know whether the
patient is better or worse, at first you may not perceive any relation
in these things.

In the course of treatment of a patient with albumin in the urine, when
mental disorders appear, the patient is growing worse, or when the
patient is threatened in phthisis and following a prescription the
lungs improve and the intellectual faculties are involed, antidote your
prescription, if you have a heart patient improving on your prescription
and a desire to destroy life follows, the symptoms are taking the wrong
direction.

Those who do not have this knowledge, blunder and destroy the lives of
human
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Old 5th October 2005, 04:21 AM
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Dear Teresa,
I hate to tell you this ... but that would be the interpretation. That we've removed obvious and not so obvious physical symptoms partially (that you have had, and could easily appear to be more dangerous) or suppressed the the vital foce expression which has resulted in the bipolar you experience now.
I"m not sure how I would rate the treatment you've been though, but I can surely say its not ideal or purely homeopathic in tems of the progress of cure that is expected after proper homeopathic treatment.

Apart from "HErings' Observations" there can be deeper miasmatic implications that can be analysed, and unless one can be convinced that Bipolar is an expression of Psoric Miasm, its difficult to say that things have moved in the right direction. However, its never to late to work in the right direction.... I know you're already on it... with Dr. Luc Schepper's blessings, I"m sure!
ALl the best!
leela


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Dr. de Schepper says (and I have read it elsewhere): better to call it
Hering's Set of Observations than Hering's Law.

I gather from my own treatment that my "deepest" problem--and the last on
the scene since it did not really manifest itself until my
50s--(bipolar/biochemical brain disorder) has not left me. I am nonetheless
very happy to be rid of the rheumatism, hay fever, bursitis/tendonitis etc.
etc.--not to mention chronic severe sinusitis and pre-cancerous cervix that
have remained cured now for 7 years after my first bout of H treatment.

I would love to stand corrected if I am misunderstanding something here.
Teresa (in VA)
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Old 5th October 2005, 11:04 AM
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Dear Teresa ,

You are on the way to speedy recovery, it is a matter of only short span of time when you will be having no doubts to get cleared ,the moment you are cured !

With best wishes,
Bajwa
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Old 7th October 2005, 06:55 PM
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Default RE: RE: Hering's "Set of Observations" (was Honesty& Punctuality)

Dr. Leela, I just copy-edited Dr. de Schepper's Achieving and Maintaining. He has not been the person treating me, and actually as of next month, I will be beginning treatment with a Dr. Asad Safdar (Pakistani until recently, I think-Subcontinent anyway) who is of your opinion that it is the deep miasmatic problem that has to be treated, best I understand. (He spoke to my homeopathic study group.) He won't see me until I have been off of all H remedies for a month, he said.

I don't think my past H treatment could be the cause of the bipolar disorder, however, since my father and his 7 siblings were all either bipolar, unipolar depressive or alcoholics. I think I came by it honestly, so to speak.

Thank you for taking time to write me!

With kindest thoughts,
Teresa
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Old 8th October 2005, 05:22 PM
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Dear Teresa,

I understand that there is a familial trait towards this type of problem (Bipolar). Usually we assume that Bipolar is an expression of Syco-Syphilitic Miasm, but that is not a hard and fast rule, as it would depend on how the Bipolar manifests.

What is expected of homeopathic treatment though, if it is in the right direction, is that miasmatic traits are less able to manifest themselves, as one moves towards a stronger miasmatic expression.

When someone is treated miasmatically and with HEring's Law of cure, it is not expected that a weak miasmatic trait becomes symptomatic. Rather, the oldest appearing symptom expression (of childhood days) is what is manifest as almost incurable at the end - like a patch of eczema. To my mind, the only possiblity that this has moved in the right direction is that there was some amount of Bipolar expression in your chidhood.

Other than that reason, I'd say that previous homeoapthic treatment was partial to a certain extent - as in not including antimiasmatic treatment.

I had a patient in my early years of practice - he was Manic Depressive and possibly schizophrenic as well. Obviously a family trait, which is why he manifested with it in his teenage years. I remember him telling me he has heat coming out of his ears ... With other China symptoms I gave him Chinimum Sulph.
Well anyway, I was totally inadequate to handle such a difficult case at that time. I referred him to one of my professors ... apparently he was doing well on Silica ... but as far as I could see, his Madness was even more manifest ... he went around church kissing statues, praying at the top of his voice, discussion the Palestinain invasion, etc and tell people (in Chruch) long love stories about him and me. (YIKES!!!!!).

Well anyway, i met him in Church again a few years back (nearly 12 years later) and he sounded like a normal person having a normal conversation. I was very relieved that he seemd to be finally mentally normal. He told me he was very well and now had a job. Then he told me he his only problem now was uncontrolled Diabeties and Hypertention. HE was on Insulin and antihypertensives. He had to be careful about his diet as they were both on the high side. But for once I saw a genuine look of normalcy in his eyes and his face. I was really glad for him. I don't think anyone should suffer from such mental illnesses, to me its worse than physical illnesses.

I realised that for this boy, leading a normal life was to suffer from Diabeties and Hypertension. It was the miasmatic way of finding a balance. I dont' know if good antimiasmtic treatment could have done much for him. I"m probably in a better position today to try ... but I"m at the other end of the country right now.

The moral of the story is ... sometimes is it better to suffer from a longterm physical ailment that allows one to lead a normal mental life? I don't know ... but probably my choice would be yes.
leela
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Old 9th October 2005, 06:45 PM
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Hi Leela,

Your conclusion here--
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I realised that for this boy, leading a normal life was to suffer from Diabeties and Hypertension. It was the miasmatic way of finding a balance. I dont' know if good antimiasmtic treatment could have done much for him. I"m probably in a better position today to try ... but I"m at the other end of the country right now.
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The moral of the story is ... sometimes is it better to suffer from a longterm physical ailment that allows one to lead a normal mental life? I don't know ... but probably my choice would be yes.
is certainly what I was taught, and seems *completely* reasonable to me!!! A similar example I was taught, is that someone recovering from a very severe and deep mental illness such as schizophrenia, may develop cancer as part of their healing process. Someone objected--but cancer can *kill* you, and schizophrenia won't--so how is it an *improvement* to develop cancer?!? And the reply was that actually, you could say that a (severely) schizophrenic person is in sort of a living death. There's no joy, growth, connection, learning, loving--they are at the mercy of their disease. By contrast a cancer patient (and one of course expects to homeopathically move them *through* the cancer, to full health) can have all of that, can have health and happiness on the mental and emotional level, even while they are ill on the physical level.

Similarly, to my way of thinking, the boy you've described is *WAY* better off as he is, with the disease on a physical level but his mind healthy--and I'm betting he and his parents would agree!!

Shannon
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