Hi,

I am looking for a remedy to treat a specific type of bladder stones that are made up from Calcium Oxylate.

Clarke has a small amount on the remedy Calcarea Oxalica but it only mentions in the characteristics - that it has been useful in allaying pains in cancer.

I have triturated and potentised a 6x of the stones of the patient and they have been put on a diet - that is low oxylate.

I am thinking that a potentised version of the stones may help reduce the tendency to create new stones, however, I would be interested in any additional information on Calcarea Oxalica if anyone can help.

Many thanks,


Rochelle .H.

Hi Rochelle

Firstly, when considering reducing the tendency to create new stones, it would be necessary to know what is the cause, which you may already know ---- dietary factors are not the primary cause these days ---- whereas urinary stasis, due to various circumstances is the usual, and then inflammation leading to stasis another as far as I am aware. Diet high in oxalates will contribute to the added size of a stone.

Also, some bladder stones were formed in the kidney and were passed into the bladder, where they grow due to stasis. Causes of urinary stasis can be different for males and females due to anatomical differences -- anyway, you can look all that up in the many references to be found.

So, if for eg., the cause of the urinary stasis was benign prostatic hypertophy, then treatment of that condition should be considered after the treatment for dissolution of the stones.

Re the dissolution --- from my notes gleaned from the clinical experience of Dr. Banerji, vesicular/bladder calculus needs Sarsaparilla, preferably in 30C in repeated doses to get dissolved and pass out. The time this takes depends on the size of the stone.

If there is acute pain from strangury and colic, then Parieira brava tincture will give relief. Thuja 30 has helped with obstinate cases (after months of Sars). If the problem is found in children, then Calc carb 30 has helped.

These remedies do work. And, their use obviates surgery.

Definitely reduce the foods rich in oxalates but only excessive amounts, some salts being absorbed and needed for maintaining health -- it is the excess ones that add to the size of the stones.

Sars is also a good remedy for retention of urine and therefore would seem that it could in some circumstances be treating the cause and the effect.

Sorry don't have anything to add for the rem Calc.ox.

Best

Robyn

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Originally Posted by Rochelle H I am looking for a remedy to treat a specific type of bladder stones that are made up from Calcium Oxylate.

Nosodes are a fascinating area to investigate by radiesthesia or dowsing. They sometimes bring about severe aggravation and I would always check the case individually. I would guess in this case you are safe to do what you suggest, but give a low potency to start with.

The reason nosodes can cause aggravation is that each one is highly specific to one (best unnamed) condition in the patient, the one creating the nosode material, while the patient may have a number of other conditions which are masked by the major one. When that is resolved, a fresh set of conditions has to be adjusted to and this creates disturbance in the nervous system. Essentially this is what aggravation always is, and why non-classical homoeopaths like me (if I can dignify myself as one at all) favour multiple remedies, or if possible one constitutional remedy reaching a long way back, which can knock out a lot of trouble at once.

Hom potency has always fascinated me too. What's the difference in effect between 1X and 1M (and 1D which I do a lot of !) ? Radiesthesia doesn't come up with a really clear story but the distinction is something like this.

Remedies address specific ailments which are linked to inherited traumatic memories. These memories were often initiated by horrors very many generations before, which have rendered intermediate ancestors open to generating associational traumatic memories, where a reminder of one "basic" one has occurred simultaneously with a reminder of another. Miasms are fairly clearly those collections of associational traumatic memories which have in the past brought about identifiable conditions, enabling them to be labelled and something to be done about them using homoeopathy theory. Of course there are non-specific miasms as well which only a dowser will pick up.

Where the law of similars enables a remedy to address a condition, a nosode being a perfect example, a low potency of the remedy will tend to address the condition in recent ancestors and a high one the condition in far distant ones. We are not talking here about time travel - the conditions are present as ancient or recent in character within the present patient.

Thus a low potency may work well if the trauma-collecting has only been recent, but with a high one there is a distinct risk of knocking out an old trauma with all its more recent developments and leaving a host of other (usually lesser) old ones with all their recent developments, to which massive new pattern the unfortunate patient has to adjust. I had a client who had been given a single remedy suggested by a Vega machine over 20 years earlier - it had been a super choice but he had been in agony ever since. A genuine danger of homoeopathy, of at least one variety !

Machine diagnosis worries me, I have to say, even though it is really radiesthesia masquerading as something more "scientific". The subtleties fly out of the window.

Dan Wilson
www.acorncentre.org/

Hi Dan,

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Originally Posted by Dan ... Hom potency has always fascinated me too. What's the difference in effect between 1X and 1M (and 1D which I do a lot of !) ? Radiesthesia doesn't come up with a really clear story but the distinction is something like this.

Actually I think the difference between 1X (1:10 dilution ratio, taken thru one step of potentization--which is the same as 1D) and 1c (1:100 dilution ratio, but also taken thru only one step of potentization) is a more intriguing comparison than 1M (which is actually a short-cut expression for 1,000c--1:100 dilution ratio, taken thru 1,000 steps of potentization). Whew, beast of a sentence!

:-)
Shannon

hello to all
my two bits regards this subject.
I agree that its better to get a deep constitutional remedy using high potency.
(instead of making the remedy from the stones) The Kidneys represent various mental and emotional imbalance besides the obvious 'physical imbalance'.
for instance the mental thought patterns that we harbor,the connection between thoughts and the different parts of the body and physical problems,in this case kidney stones.
kidney problems; criticism,failure,disapointment,shame
kidney stones; lumps of undissolved anger
Dont get me wrong i'm all for using the body (blood/pus/urine) to make hom.remedies. Perhaps not in this case......................
Gina Tyler

Dear Robyn, Shannon, Chris and Dan,

Thank you for you replies.

I don't why I said the remedy was a 6x it is a 6c made to Hahnemanns instructions - quite a enjoyalbe and intersting exercise.

I am not sure the difference in effect from a x potency to a c potency - energetically- would the c potencies be more energetic than the x - I am not sure.

The patient is one of my mini shcnauzers - they have a strong hereditary risk in developing stones.

I have tried and looked at Calc Renalis but without sucess.

Thank you for the Banerji suggestions - anything that encorages urination and stops the crystals sitting in the bladder where they can form stones is a good idea.

He has had two lots of surgery to remove stones as he went into urinary retention - tried remedies but this where you have to step in and remove the actual blockage or it can be fatal.

I will let you know if diet and low doses of the Calc Oxalica work - he could be adding to homoeopathic Materica Medica - wouldn't that be great.

Many thanks

Rochelle .H.

Dear Rochelle
This post needs to be in the vet forum,it is an animal (dog) you are speaking of correct? Wim....is verry good with vet hom. help you might want to send him a post.
Gina Tyler

Hydrangia ,calcarea Renalis Are Specific For Urinary Bladder Stone