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Old 23rd July 2005, 12:05 PM
j tikari
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Default Cancer

Is cancer a virus?

If so, why are we calling it a healing process?

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Old 23rd July 2005, 04:39 PM
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passkey has a little shameless behaviour in the past
Default There have been suggestions that a virus

can give rise to a cancer. Large pinch of salt to be taken at this point.

Cancer arises from a hereditary pre-disposition and it is the body's way of relieving a deep rooted problem [ususally not in the physical area] .

To remove a cancer physically is to close off the vent the body is using to relieve its problems . This is to ask for trouble.

The way to deal with a cancer is to locate and relieve the causation and the body, no longer under pressure will itself WITHDRAW the cancer.

Stress is one cause of cancer and one case , where a woman was told she had 6 months to live , made her sell all her assets and go and live in the pacific. 5 years later she was still alive.
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Old 25th July 2005, 02:05 PM
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Default RE: Cancer

Some people think it is but as far as The New Medicine goes, it makes no
difference. Hamer asserts that the brain is wise enough to know when to
send any particular microorganism to a "disease" site. So, for example,
after the tumor has run its course, tubercular bacilli will be sent to
destroy or encase it.

Richard Knapp
Database Programmer/Analyst
Institutional Research and Planning
University of Missouri System
573-882-8856
knappr@umsystem.edu

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Subject: [H] Cancer

Is cancer a virus?

If so, why are we calling it a healing process?

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Old 26th July 2005, 03:35 AM
Robert & Shannon Nelson
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Default Re: Cancer

But they why do people die of cancer--it is certainly not allopathy
that has caused cancer, nor made it sometimes deadly if not treated
appropriately.
Shannon

On Jul 25, 2005, at 8:59 AM, Knapp, Richard wrote:

>
> Some people think it is but as far as The New Medicine goes, it makes
> no
> difference. Hamer asserts that the brain is wise enough to know when
> to
> send any particular microorganism to a "disease" site. So, for
> example,
> after the tumor has run its course, tubercular bacilli will be sent to
> destroy or encase it.
>
> Richard Knapp
> Database Programmer/Analyst
> Institutional Research and Planning
> University of Missouri System
> 573-882-8856
> knappr@umsystem.edu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: homeopathy-bounces@homeolist.com
> [mailto:homeopathy-bounces@homeolist.com] On Behalf Of j tikari
> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 7:31 PM
> To: homeopathy@homeolist.com
> Subject: [H] Cancer
>
> Is cancer a virus?
>
> If so, why are we calling it a healing process?
>
> Jeff Tikari


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Old 26th July 2005, 02:05 PM
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Default RE: Cancer

Well, according to Hamer, it is allopathy that causes their deaths.
Their brains receive further shocks from the MDs in the form of fatal
prognoses (which accounts for the "spread" of cancers) and their immune
systems are seriously compromised by the chemo and radiation.

Richard Knapp
Database Programmer/Analyst
Institutional Research and Planning
University of Missouri System
573-882-8856
knappr@umsystem.edu

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Nelson
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 10:31 PM
To: homeopathy@homeolist.com
Subject: Re: [H] Cancer

But they why do people die of cancer--it is certainly not allopathy
that has caused cancer, nor made it sometimes deadly if not treated
appropriately.
Shannon

On Jul 25, 2005, at 8:59 AM, Knapp, Richard wrote:

>
> Some people think it is but as far as The New Medicine goes, it makes
> no
> difference. Hamer asserts that the brain is wise enough to know when
> to
> send any particular microorganism to a "disease" site. So, for
> example,
> after the tumor has run its course, tubercular bacilli will be sent to
> destroy or encase it.
>
> Richard Knapp
> Database Programmer/Analyst
> Institutional Research and Planning
> University of Missouri System
> 573-882-8856
> knappr@umsystem.edu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: homeopathy-bounces@homeolist.com
> [mailto:homeopathy-bounces@homeolist.com] On Behalf Of j tikari
> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 7:31 PM
> To: homeopathy@homeolist.com
> Subject: [H] Cancer
>
> Is cancer a virus?
>
> If so, why are we calling it a healing process?
>
> Jeff Tikari


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Old 26th July 2005, 04:15 PM
Robert & Shannon Nelson
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Default Re: Cancer

I figured he made that assumption--but people *do* die of cancer even
without any treatment. I'm not saying that chemo and radiation are
proper treatments (if, God forbid, I were to be diagnosed with cancer,
it's not the approach I would choose!), but that is a separate issue.
I don't know the history of cancer, but I do know that cancer and
deaths therefrom did predate the practices of chemo and radiation. For
instance, my great grandmother's sister died in childhoo from (at least
what was *called*) cancer. I wonder what treatments she might have
been given? It couldn't have involved chemo or radiation, since those
had not yet been invented.

I dunno, I am not a fan of allopathic methods, but we really can't
blame *everything* on them...
Shannon


On Jul 26, 2005, at 8:59 AM, Knapp, Richard wrote:

>
> Well, according to Hamer, it is allopathy that causes their deaths.
> Their brains receive further shocks from the MDs in the form of fatal
> prognoses (which accounts for the "spread" of cancers) and their immune
> systems are seriously compromised by the chemo and radiation.
>
> Richard Knapp
> Database Programmer/Analyst
> Institutional Research and Planning
> University of Missouri System
> 573-882-8856
> knappr@umsystem.edu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: homeopathy-bounces@homeolist.com
> [mailto:homeopathy-bounces@homeolist.com] On Behalf Of Robert & Shannon
> Nelson
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 10:31 PM
> To: homeopathy@homeolist.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Cancer
>
> But they why do people die of cancer--it is certainly not allopathy
> that has caused cancer, nor made it sometimes deadly if not treated
> appropriately.
> Shannon
>
> On Jul 25, 2005, at 8:59 AM, Knapp, Richard wrote:
>
>>
>> Some people think it is but as far as The New Medicine goes, it makes
>> no
>> difference. Hamer asserts that the brain is wise enough to know when
>> to
>> send any particular microorganism to a "disease" site. So, for
>> example,
>> after the tumor has run its course, tubercular bacilli will be sent to
>> destroy or encase it.
>>
>> Richard Knapp
>> Database Programmer/Analyst
>> Institutional Research and Planning
>> University of Missouri System
>> 573-882-8856
>> knappr@umsystem.edu
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: homeopathy-bounces@homeolist.com
>> [mailto:homeopathy-bounces@homeolist.com] On Behalf Of j tikari
>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 7:31 PM
>> To: homeopathy@homeolist.com
>> Subject: [H] Cancer
>>
>> Is cancer a virus?
>>
>> If so, why are we calling it a healing process?
>>
>> Jeff Tikari

>
>
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Old 26th July 2005, 07:19 PM
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passkey has a little shameless behaviour in the past
Default Perhaps not everything

but I would go for somewhere in the 90% area.
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Old 27th July 2005, 12:05 AM
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Default RE: Cancer

Hi Richard,

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Knapp, Richard wrote:

>
> Well, according to Hamer, it is allopathy that causes their deaths.
> Their brains receive further shocks from the MDs in the form of fatal
> prognoses (which accounts for the "spread" of cancers) and their immune
> systems are seriously compromised by the chemo and radiation.
>

Does that mean he teaches that in a case where the person does not
know about having cancer they will not die of it?

This would be ludicrous!!

Just some examples of probably immesurabley many others:

A friend of mine did not know she had cancer of the colon until there
was a breakthrough into the peritoneum. The peritonitis that would
have followed would not have been from the bacteria in the colon but
from the "wise old body" sending microbes (from somewhere in outer
space, no doubt, or self-created or in a cache) and if it had been
left alone and no-one taken notice of her unendurable pain and no-one
thought of cancer she would have recovered?

Or the people who do not know they have cancer of the colon until the
colon is completele obstructed and they are vomiting stool?

Or all the people who died of tuberculosis and are still dying of it
where they have no medical care?

Or the epidemics - all at once people of the regions that were ravaged
by the plague in Middle Age Europe .. all at once they all had the
same kinds of shock or psychic trauma (before there was any chance of
news spreading at any speed) so that all those bodies sent the same
microbes?

This idea seems just a little odd to me:-) He seems to be overstepping
the limits of probability.

Regards

Luise


> Richard Knapp
> Database Programmer/Analyst
> Institutional Research and Planning
> University of Missouri System
> 573-882-8856
> knappr@umsystem.edu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: homeopathy-bounces@homeolist.com
> [mailto:homeopathy-bounces@homeolist.com] On Behalf Of Robert & Shannon
> Nelson
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 10:31 PM
> To: homeopathy@homeolist.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Cancer
>
> But they why do people die of cancer--it is certainly not allopathy
> that has caused cancer, nor made it sometimes deadly if not treated
> appropriately.
> Shannon
>
> On Jul 25, 2005, at 8:59 AM, Knapp, Richard wrote:
>
>>
>> Some people think it is but as far as The New Medicine goes, it makes
>> no
>> difference. Hamer asserts that the brain is wise enough to know when
>> to
>> send any particular microorganism to a "disease" site. So, for
>> example,
>> after the tumor has run its course, tubercular bacilli will be sent to
>> destroy or encase it.
>>
>> Richard Knapp
>> Database Programmer/Analyst
>> Institutional Research and Planning
>> University of Missouri System
>> 573-882-8856
>> knappr@umsystem.edu
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: homeopathy-bounces@homeolist.com
>> [mailto:homeopathy-bounces@homeolist.com] On Behalf Of j tikari
>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 7:31 PM
>> To: homeopathy@homeolist.com
>> Subject: [H] Cancer
>>
>> Is cancer a virus?
>>
>> If so, why are we calling it a healing process?
>>
>> Jeff Tikari

>
>
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Old 28th July 2005, 03:35 PM
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Default RE: Cancer

Luise,

I'm trying to keep my descriptions of Hamer's thought brief since they
are not really appropriate for this list so I am leaving a lot out. I
recommend you read his book or at least check out his web site if you
are interested (pro or con). He does say that cancer is a serious
disease and requires close medical supervision and that surgery is
sometimes required. The example of your friend is an instance of why
this is important. He focuses on cancer and cancer-like diseases so the
infectious diseases are not mentioned (as far as I know). Check out his
web site.

Richard Knapp
Database Programmer/Analyst
Institutional Research and Planning
University of Missouri System
573-882-8856
knappr@umsystem.edu
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From: homeopathy-bounces@homeolist.com
[mailto:homeopathy-bounces@homeolist.com] On Behalf Of Luise Kunkle
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 5:58 PM
To: homeopathy@homeolist.com
Subject: RE: [H] Cancer


Hi Richard,

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Knapp, Richard wrote:

>
> Well, according to Hamer, it is allopathy that causes their deaths.
> Their brains receive further shocks from the MDs in the form of fatal
> prognoses (which accounts for the "spread" of cancers) and their

immune
> systems are seriously compromised by the chemo and radiation.
>

Does that mean he teaches that in a case where the person does not
know about having cancer they will not die of it?

This would be ludicrous!!

Just some examples of probably immesurabley many others:

A friend of mine did not know she had cancer of the colon until there
was a breakthrough into the peritoneum. The peritonitis that would
have followed would not have been from the bacteria in the colon but
from the "wise old body" sending microbes (from somewhere in outer
space, no doubt, or self-created or in a cache) and if it had been
left alone and no-one taken notice of her unendurable pain and no-one
thought of cancer she would have recovered?

Or the people who do not know they have cancer of the colon until the
colon is completele obstructed and they are vomiting stool?

Or all the people who died of tuberculosis and are still dying of it
where they have no medical care?

Or the epidemics - all at once people of the regions that were ravaged
by the plague in Middle Age Europe .. all at once they all had the
same kinds of shock or psychic trauma (before there was any chance of
news spreading at any speed) so that all those bodies sent the same
microbes?

This idea seems just a little odd to me:-) He seems to be overstepping
the limits of probability.

Regards

Luise


> Richard Knapp
> Database Programmer/Analyst
> Institutional Research and Planning
> University of Missouri System
> 573-882-8856
> knappr@umsystem.edu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: homeopathy-bounces@homeolist.com
> [mailto:homeopathy-bounces@homeolist.com] On Behalf Of Robert &

Shannon
> Nelson
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 10:31 PM
> To: homeopathy@homeolist.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Cancer
>
> But they why do people die of cancer--it is certainly not allopathy
> that has caused cancer, nor made it sometimes deadly if not treated
> appropriately.
> Shannon
>
> On Jul 25, 2005, at 8:59 AM, Knapp, Richard wrote:
>
>>
>> Some people think it is but as far as The New Medicine goes, it makes
>> no
>> difference. Hamer asserts that the brain is wise enough to know when
>> to
>> send any particular microorganism to a "disease" site. So, for
>> example,
>> after the tumor has run its course, tubercular bacilli will be sent

to
>> destroy or encase it.
>>
>> Richard Knapp
>> Database Programmer/Analyst
>> Institutional Research and Planning
>> University of Missouri System
>> 573-882-8856
>> knappr@umsystem.edu
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: homeopathy-bounces@homeolist.com
>> [mailto:homeopathy-bounces@homeolist.com] On Behalf Of j tikari
>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 7:31 PM
>> To: homeopathy@homeolist.com
>> Subject: [H] Cancer
>>
>> Is cancer a virus?
>>
>> If so, why are we calling it a healing process?
>>
>> Jeff Tikari

>
>
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Old 28th July 2005, 04:01 PM
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Default One mans Hamer

seems to be another persons Ludicrous.
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