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Old 20th July 2005, 05:15 AM
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Hi Joe D' Livera

I have been using - on myself and my family - Biochemics No.28 for the last 8 years with results similar to what you discribe you attained with Arnica 6c.

Biochemic tissue salts (Schussler's) No. 28 is a combination of all twelve tissue salts and is marketed as a general tonic. It has Nat - phos in it too (6x or 3x). Over the years it has helped nails, hair, skin, my blood pressure is normal, and we are all trim and healthy.

I don't know how much of a caning I will get for putting this on the web, but some may wan't to try it and benefit from it. I am sure I won't be ostracised like Hanneman was for promoting homeopathy.

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Hi Jeff,

I am indeed delighted to learn that you have been using all the 12 Schussler's salts for some time, perhaps years, and that your experience with using it for yourself and your family has been very positive.

I presume that you would have read all the flak that I attracted in the recent past after I mentioned that I was using Arnica 6c nightly and that I felt that I owed to it my generally good sense of wellness at my age of 76.

It is indeed unfortunate that classical homeopaths cannot see the proverbial wood for the trees and resort to personal vilification if they discover that their 'religous' beliefs are in any way violated by types like me and perhaps you, in daring to use remedies which are already known in a manner that does not fit in with the beliefs that they were indoctrinated into during their studies.

In my case I have nothing to lose by recording my own experiences which I gladly share with others as I do not practice homeopathy for a fee and delight like a few others on this and other forums in promoting the use of remedies in a manner not always in conformity to the tenets of this 'religion'. I do so always with due consideration to the effect of these remedies, specifically Nat Phos 6x for weight reduction and Arnica 6c for general wellness, have on me and others who use them and confirm that they benefit from their usage.

The point that I wish to clear with those who conform to the classical school is what their rational is for criticizing me when I have proved in no uncertain terms that the use of certain remedies in the manner that I have done on a long term basis is justified. I refer to a case that I had mentioned on a patient who was a chronic case of Asthma for over 10 years whom Dr Luc de Schepper treated when he was in Sri Lanka with Nat Sulph 6c succussed dose. This patient has been using the remedy for about 4 months now and he cannot stop it as his asthma recurs. As a result he prefers to use it instead of the Inhalers which he used both morning and evening in double puffs each to be able to breathe. My point is that it is far better for this patient to use this remedy for life if in doing so he can use in place of the inhalers which obviously contain a cocktail of choice steroids and other drugs to keep the airways open.

I did have some success with patients who were also chronic asthmatics who are now cured and do not depend on the remedy but who are still susceptible to this ailment if they catch a cold.

I am indeed glad that you placed your experience in the use of the Biochemics No 28 on record on this forum as I would like all who were inclined to criticize me will realize that I am not alone in the use of remedies in a manner that does not conform to their classical methods but still am able to generate positive results.

Thank you for doing so.
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Dear Sir,

I am a new member over here.

I had read in the book by J.W. Armstrong called the water of life(its on urine therapy)the importance of essential salts for human bodies and the deficiency of these salts results in diseases.

Mr Armstrong quotes from the book The biochemic system of medicine by G.W. Carey.

I am very keen to take the 12 salts combinations for improving my health further.

I had posted this query in this site on someother forum and had either postive view or extremely negative view regarding healthy peole taking the biochemic salts.

So can a normal person use the twelve salts daily without any side-effects(as a supplement)
Dear Sir waiting for a very clear answer from you.


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ps I would like to add that according to my knowledge the diet of a normal person in majority cases lacks the important salts in terms of quality and quantity due wrong cooking methods,chemical farming and preservation of friuts and vegetables.The crops are harvested before its actual harvest time so as to get premumiun on their produce.

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Hi Jeff,

I am indeed delighted to learn that you have been using all the 12 Schussler's salts for some time, perhaps years, and that your experience with using it for yourself and your family has been very positive.

I presume that you would have read all the flak that I attracted in the recent past after I mentioned that I was using Arnica 6c nightly and that I felt that I owed to it my generally good sense of wellness at my age of 76.

It is indeed unfortunate that classical homeopaths cannot see the proverbial wood for the trees and resort to personal vilification if they discover that their 'religous' beliefs are in any way violated by types like me and perhaps you, in daring to use remedies which are already known in a manner that does not fit in with the beliefs that they were indoctrinated into during their studies.

In my case I have nothing to lose by recording my own experiences which I gladly share with others as I do not practice homeopathy for a fee and delight like a few others on this and other forums in promoting the use of remedies in a manner not always in conformity to the tenets of this 'religion'. I do so always with due consideration to the effect of these remedies, specifically Nat Phos 6x for weight reduction and Arnica 6c for general wellness, have on me and others who use them and confirm that they benefit from their usage.

The point that I wish to clear with those who conform to the classical school is what their rational is for criticizing me when I have proved in no uncertain terms that the use of certain remedies in the manner that I have done on a long term basis is justified. I refer to a case that I had mentioned on a patient who was a chronic case of Asthma for over 10 years whom Dr Luc de Schepper treated when he was in Sri Lanka with Nat Sulph 6c succussed dose. This patient has been using the remedy for about 4 months now and he cannot stop it as his asthma recurs. As a result he prefers to use it instead of the Inhalers which he used both morning and evening in double puffs each to be able to breathe. My point is that it is far better for this patient to use this remedy for life if in doing so he can use in place of the inhalers which obviously contain a cocktail of choice steroids and other drugs to keep the airways open.

I did have some success with patients who were also chronic asthmatics who are now cured and do not depend on the remedy but who are still susceptible to this ailment if they catch a cold.

I am indeed glad that you placed your experience in the use of the Biochemics No 28 on record on this forum as I would like all who were inclined to criticize me will realize that I am not alone in the use of remedies in a manner that does not conform to their classical methods but still am able to generate positive results.

Thank you for doing so.
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Dear Sir,

I am a new member over here.

I had read in the book by J.W. Armstrong called the water of life(its on urine therapy)the importance of essential salts for human bodies and the deficiency of these salts results in diseases.

Mr Armstrong quotes from the book The biochemic system of medicine by G.W. Carey.

I am very keen to take the 12 salts combinations for improving my health further.

I had posted this query in this site on someother forum and had either postive view or extremely negative view regarding healthy peole taking the biochemic salts.

So can a normal person use the twelve salts daily without any side-effects(as a supplement)
Dear Sir waiting for a very clear answer from you.


Regards.


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Hi Joe D' Livera

I have been using - on myself and my family - Biochemics No.28 for the last 8 years with results similar to what you discribe you attained with Arnica 6c.

Biochemic tissue salts (Schussler's) No. 28 is a combination of all twelve tissue salts and is marketed as a general tonic. It has Nat - phos in it too (6x or 3x). Over the years it has helped nails, hair, skin, my blood pressure is normal, and we are all trim and healthy.

I don't know how much of a caning I will get for putting this on the web, but some may wan't to try it and benefit from it. I am sure I won't be ostracised like Hanneman was for promoting homeopathy.

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Old 12th December 2005, 04:23 PM
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I am afraid that I cannot answer your query whether the regular use of the 12 Biochemic salts is good for the body as I have no experience in their daily use.

I feel however that you can be the best judge of whether or not this daily intake can be good for you by using them for say a week, when you would have the opportunity of evaluating their impact on your state of wellness. If you honestly feel that you feel better you can continue to use them.

I am convinced that the daily use of Arnica 6 or 30c will positively help one to achieve a better quality of life. I have used this remedy since 1996 when I first used it to help my Prostate which started to be a problem at that time and after my surgery in 2002 I continued to use it daily and proved that if I stopped it my BP would increase by a few millimeters after about a week without the remedy. I did also feel rather lethargic and achey which was acceptable at my age 76 but which signs disappeared immediately I started back on the nightly dose.

I would recommend that you too use it and if you do so, I would appreciate if you will post your response on the morning after your first dose which you should take last thing at night.
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Old 12th December 2005, 05:32 PM
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Dear Sir,

The previous post of mine had reference of the following poster.

Originally Posted by j tikari
Hi Joe D' Livera

I have been using - on myself and my family - Biochemics No.28 for the last 8 years with results similar to what you discribe you attained with Arnica 6c.

Biochemic tissue salts (Schussler's) No. 28 is a combination of all twelve tissue salts and is marketed as a general tonic. It has Nat - phos in it too (6x or 3x). Over the years it has helped nails, hair, skin, my blood pressure is normal, and we are all trim and healthy.

I don't know how much of a caning I will get for putting this on the web, but some may wan't to try it and benefit from it. I am sure I won't be ostracised like Hanneman was for promoting homeopathy.

Jeff Tikari



Dear JOe

Glad for the prompt reply and suggestion for using arnica.

Sir i am a novice in the field of homeopathy,i am more interested generally in alternative medicines for good health and well being.

In between i would like to mention that the 12 salts i mentioned was Biochemic tissue salts (Schussler's) No. 28.which i would like to use soon.

Regarding arnica it seems it was effective in your case but i would like to know that is it a homeopathy medicine?and if yes can a normal person like me take it(without sideeffects) for general well being.

And thanks again sir for ur time and effort,waiting for ur reply.
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Many who have used Arnica at night have reported that they slept unusually deeply and felt very fresh the morning after.

I presume that this is due to the effect of the Arnica which will also help with your Blood pressure which in my case is 120/80 at age 76. I discovered that when I stopped the nightly dose for a week my BP tended to climb up and by the end of the third week without it I was achey all over and decided to stop the experiment. In a few days back on the Arnica all systems stabilized and I was back to normal.

This is proof that Arnica does help if taken daily.
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I am afraid that I cannot answer your query whether the regular use of the 12 Biochemic salts is good for the body as I have no experience in their daily use.

I feel however that you can be the best judge of whether or not this daily intake can be good for you by using them for say a week, when you would have the opportunity of evaluating their impact on your state of wellness. If you honestly feel that you feel better you can continue to use them.

I am convinced that the daily use of Arnica 6 or 30c will positively help one to achieve a better quality of life. I have used this remedy since 1996 when I first used it to help my Prostate which started to be a problem at that time and after my surgery in 2002 I continued to use it daily and proved that if I stopped it my BP would increase by a few millimeters after about a week without the remedy. I did also feel rather lethargic and achey which was acceptable at my age 76 but which signs disappeared immediately I started back on the nightly dose.

I would recommend that you too use it and if you do so, I would appreciate if you will post your response on the morning after your first dose which you should take last thing at night.

Greetings to you, Sir and all members

You wrote:

< I am convinced that the daily use of Arnica 6 or 30c will positively help one to achieve a better quality of life. >

If correctly used, I am sure it will. But I learnt the hard way when I used diluted Arnica in solution for cleansing of lacerated wounds.


I will be grateful , sir, if you could kindly give me a break-down or source,.on the inorganic and organic residual components of Arnica Montanna after evaporation and incineration.
Phytolacca decandra, after evaporation and incineration retains 8.4% of the inorganic 6.8 % soluble consisting of mostly Potassium salts 1.6% insoluble consisting of Calcium and Silica. Symptomatically, more will correspond to the Potash salts and fewer to the calcium, iron and silica. This explains why there are different sets of symptoms under one homeopathic drug , apparently mutually antagonistic, because each cell salt contained in the plant extract interacts differently. However, cell salts derived from plants may differ from cell salts from the mineral kingdom.



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Greetings to you, Sir and all members


I will be grateful , sir, if you could kindly give me a break-down or source,.on the inorganic and organic residual components of Arnica Montanna after evaporation and incineration.

Phytolacca decandra, after evaporation and incineration retains 8.4% of the inorganic 6.8 % soluble consisting of mostly Potassium salts 1.6% insoluble consisting of Calcium and Silica. Symptomatically, more will correspond to the Potash salts and fewer to the calcium, iron and silica. This explains why there are different sets of symptoms under one homeopathic drug , apparently mutually antagonistic, because each cell salt contained in the plant extract interacts differently. However, cell salts derived from plants may differ from cell salts from the mineral kingdom.



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Cell salt,

Does it indicate that organic side of any remady or what is lost on evaporation and incineration do not have any role in giving homeopathic effects?

How cell salts derived from plants may differ from cell salts from the mineral kingdom if same chemical composition of both is there?
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Cell salt,

Does it indicate that organic side of any remady or what is lost on evaporation and incineration do not have any role in giving homeopathic effects?

How cell salts derived from plants may differ from cell salts from the mineral kingdom if same chemical composition of both is there?

Greetings

I have noted your queries. I will get back to you soon.I have to catch up with my backlog of work.

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