Dear all,
I'm interested in the rem suggested onlist recently for weight loss --
but of course I've forgotten who suggested it (he was not a practitioner but
had helped many of his friends with it, he himself takes arnica 6x daily for
heart) and what the rem was (two words 6x). Thanks for refreshing my memory.


Best,
Margaret in Boston

I believe that I have the honour of being the first to discover that Nat Phos 6x reduces weight. The dosage is 2 tablets taken twice daily after lunch and dinner.

You can expect a reduction of about 2 pounds per week as long as you do not take coffee, cola drinks and ham, bacon and sausages which contain saltpeter.

This remedy will also help you to sleep soundly as does Arnica 6c which I have used every night since 1996. I really do not think that it helps my heart but suffice it to say that my BP at age 76 is still 120/80 pulse 65.

You may like to read more about my use of Arnica in:

Joe and arnica

Arnica the Miracle Remedy

Nat Phos 6x info on:
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/15923/

__________________
Joe De Livera
Colombo
Sri Lanka

Nat phos 6c recommended by Joe D' Livera

Jeff Tikari
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> Dear all,
> I'm interested in the rem suggested onlist recently for weight
> ss --
> but of course I've forgotten who suggested it (he was not a practitioner
> but
> had helped many of his friends with it, he himself takes arnica 6x daily
> for
> heart) and what the rem was (two words 6x). Thanks for refreshing my
> memory.
>
>
> Best,
> Margaret in Boston
>

On Jul 19, 2005, at 5:54 PM, j tikari wrote:

> Nat phos 6c recommended by Joe D' Livera

Can someone explain how or why this works?
Doesn;t the person need to be a Nat phos, or in a Nat phos state? Are
all overweight people in a Nat phos state? How can this be?

Peter Chappell has a remedy for obesity for sale on his website.
http://www.vitalremedies.com
His remedies treat the "unvarying nature of the syndrome" of what we
call diseases.

Of course we all know that homeopathy treats the individual state and
not the disease. Just want to make sure we keep on track.

Melanie Grimes

I have no possibility of carrying out the tests necessary here in Sri Lanka to verify how this simple remedy Nat Phos 6x works to reduce weight in about 90% of those who use it. It is interesting to record that at the potency of 6x the salt Sodium Phosphate is only present in 1/1Millionth of its original concentration.

I believe that it works by accelerating peristalysis in the stomach and gut and thereby prevents the food from being fully absorbed into the body. Please read the link below for further information:

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/15923/

I find it difficult to answer your question on the Homeopathic approach to the treatment of an ailment in the manner that I have recommended that Nat Phos 6x be used. In this case it is obviously a violation of the tenets of classical homeopathy by taking the "this for that" approach but the result is that it really does help to reduce weight.

I believe that there are many hundreds of thousands of overweight people throughout this planet who are now using this remedy daily since I first released news of my discovery to the world through this and another homeopathic forum last Christmas day, the day before the Tsunami which hit Sri Lanka and other countries, causing a disaster which was unprecedented to us and to the rest of the world.

I do hope that you will please spread the word to others who seem even slightly overweight who would like to reduce their weight that they do not need to spend millions in seeking a cure when it is available near at hand.
It is understood of course that they will observe the taboos when using this remedy which are coffee, cold drinks, preserved meats like bacon, ham, sausages which contain saltpeter which antidores the remedy. The standard weight loss should be in the region of 2 pounds per week. It is of course understood that the patient does not indulge in eating the wrong type of food because he is taking this remedy and also increases his exercise regimen.

I have not had any negative after effects reported by the use of this simple remedy which I believe is a discovery that should help those obese in this world to safely reduce their bulk safely at a very minimal cost.

__________________
Joe De Livera
Colombo
Sri Lanka

I'm guessing it works in the same way a proving works. Perhaps none of
us are one "thing" or another but living, growing, developing beings
with varying susceptibilities over time. If I were just one thing, I
would always get the same tarot card, always cast the same I Ching. My
life would be predictable.

The dependency aspect of "Joe's protocol" is a little unnerving for me.
What if it should fail? What if my supply should dry up?

Richard Knapp
Database Programmer/Analyst
Institutional Research and Planning
University of Missouri System
573-882-8856
knappr@umsystem.edu

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On Jul 19, 2005, at 5:54 PM, j tikari wrote:

> Nat phos 6c recommended by Joe D' Livera

Can someone explain how or why this works?
Doesn;t the person need to be a Nat phos, or in a Nat phos state? Are
all overweight people in a Nat phos state? How can this be?

Peter Chappell has a remedy for obesity for sale on his website.
http://www.vitalremedies.com
His remedies treat the "unvarying nature of the syndrome" of what we
call diseases.

Of course we all know that homeopathy treats the individual state and
not the disease. Just want to make sure we keep on track.

Melanie Grimes

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Knapp, Richard wrote:

>
> I'm guessing it works in the same way a proving works. Perhaps none of
> us are one "thing" or another but living, growing, developing beings
> with varying susceptibilities over time. If I were just one thing, I
> would always get the same tarot card, always cast the same I Ching.

Just from curiosity: do you get the same tarot cards and cast the same
I Chin if you repeat several times at intervals of say 1 minute?

Regards

Luise

>

--
One thought to all who, free from doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
==========> ICQ yinyang 96391801 <==========

Once in a very great while a card or hexagram may be repeated
(consecutively). I've never tried the experiment you suggest.
What do you think it would demonstrate?

Richard Knapp
Database Programmer/Analyst
Institutional Research and Planning
University of Missouri System
573-882-8856
knappr@umsystem.edu

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[mailto:homeopathy-bounces@homeolist.com] On Behalf Of Luise Kunkle
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 4:01 PM
To: homeopathy@homeolist.com
Subject: RE: [H] weight loss rem?

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Knapp, Richard wrote:

>
> I'm guessing it works in the same way a proving works. Perhaps none
of
> us are one "thing" or another but living, growing, developing beings
> with varying susceptibilities over time. If I were just one thing, I
> would always get the same tarot card, always cast the same I Ching.

Just from curiosity: do you get the same tarot cards and cast the same
I Chin if you repeat several times at intervals of say 1 minute?

Regards

Luise

>

--
One thought to all who, free from doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
==========> ICQ yinyang 96391801 <==========

Hi Richard,

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Knapp, Richard wrote:

>
> Once in a very great while a card or hexagram may be repeated
> (consecutively). I've never tried the experiment you suggest.
> What do you think it would demonstrate?
>

Well, it would depend on the outcome.

If really after the interval of only a minute each the card or the hexagramm
should be the same, this would tend to confirm the validity of the tarot/I
Ching. Since nothing much should have happened as a rule within that short an
interval to change things.

If they turn out to be different after that interval - well it would at least
not be such a confirmation.

Of course, the "trials" would have to be repeated, expecially in the latter
case. It is after all possible that in a minute, just in that specific case,
something of importance may have happened inside you or outside.

That, however, should be considered an exception, and in further trials this
would change.

Just IMO - perhaps you see it different.

Regards

Luise


> Richard Knapp
> Database Programmer/Analyst
> Institutional Research and Planning
> University of Missouri System
> 573-882-8856
> knappr@umsystem.edu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: homeopathy-bounces@homeolist.com
> [mailto:homeopathy-bounces@homeolist.com] On Behalf Of Luise Kunkle
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 4:01 PM
> To: homeopathy@homeolist.com
> Subject: RE: [H] weight loss rem?
>
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Knapp, Richard wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm guessing it works in the same way a proving works. Perhaps none
> of
>> us are one "thing" or another but living, growing, developing beings
>> with varying susceptibilities over time. If I were just one thing, I
>> would always get the same tarot card, always cast the same I Ching.
>
> Just from curiosity: do you get the same tarot cards and cast the same
> I Chin if you repeat several times at intervals of say 1 minute?
>
> Regards
>
> Luise
>
>>
>
>

--
One thought to all who, free from doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
==========> ICQ yinyang 96391801 <==========