Belief that a particular remedy has helped 'A' person and so it shall be of similar help to others is against the cardinal principle of 'like cures like'. Secondly, i wonder if anyone would think of using homeopathic remedies on a routine daily basis considering there are more than thousand odd remedies. I wish misleading impressions are not allowed by the moderator of this list. There are millions of websites to get the necessary attention and i hope this list is meant only for scientific and plausible deliberations. Improved state of health is no indication that a particular remedy is the reason behind the improvement. Simple prayers have proved far more effective in healing and this does not automatically lead to any proof. However Classical Homeopathy cannot be adulterated by whims and fancies and especially since Arnica is already a proved remedy.

Dr Paraki

I think that is the heart of the problem--that it is not really homeopathy, and actually goes against some basic principles of homeopathic prescribing--in recommending that "everyone try it" we've sidestepped issues of individualization (to the discomfort of two for whom it did *not* work), have set aside any consideration of symptom similarity (except the too-general one that arnica does cover various types of sleep disorder) and in particular, we're settling on long-term palliation, when our first goal should be *cure* (*change* the underlying state of health, such that ongoing supplementation becomes less necessary, or unnecessary).

Joe-I'm not saying this to criticize your own use; if something so simple is working so well for you, it's understandable why you are enthusiastic! But maybe it shouldn't be viewed as a "one-size-fits-all" idea sort of situation; and I definitely agree that it's a risky thing to recommend for "everyone". But--it's been an intriguing and thought-provoking discussion, so thank you!

Shannon

Joe is simply trying to tell his experience with Arnica. He never claimed that it will be useful for each and everybody. His feedback is that it is helping many people.

May I know what is meant by 'clinical' symtoms? Are they to be accepted as symptoms or not?

Perhaps, we will accept them, if a Kent or Clarke says it.!!

Don't have preconceived notions. Materia Medica can be evolved continuously. All experiments should be welcome, and the results are to be verified.

You can't scare away people, from telling their experiences. It is upto you to take it or leave it. Better still, experiment with what is being told, and tell your experience with it.

When Joe said Nat.Phos 6X cures obesity, I tried, but it didn't help me. I told him about this. But, there are many people benifitted by it. Who, knows, one day, it may become the number one remedy for treatment of obesity.

There are certain things called 'specifics' in homeopathy, and many believe in them, if not yourself.

Is classical homeopathy a static one, where no more additions can be made, be it in enlarging materia medica, selection of potency, or methods of administration?

Murthy

Joe De Livera's suggestion re. Arnica, may not help ALL. But if it helps some, it is brilliant. I am experimenting with this on myself - so far so good - I am experiencing, I think, some good feelings and an undisturbed sleep. Mind you, I am taking one No. 40 pill in the morning and one at night. Nothing negative to report, but some positive happenings. Will expand on this after ten days.

Jeff Tikari

I meant to warn Joe about the qualified in one hand and wicked diversity of this list in the other. That has already showed its scope going from the demeaning and childishly demented statements of Richard Knapp all the way up to the no less unethical, disrespectful, censorful, and pseudo-elitist of Paraki.
Needless is to say that a case report is also a form of scientific communication even in the context of the Principle of Similars and as a matter of fact as part of other kinds of empiric reports is not far for what other more seasoned practitioners of Homeopathy do as I am writing these lines.
The invitation to generalize the experience in a world of adults with some sense of professionalism is taken or not depending on the personal interest of the readership. As a matter of fact that is what people do in the “scientific world”, where breakthroughs are meant to be considered, studied, repeated and experimented. That works also for the “proven remedies”, specially for the methodological intricacies of remedies considered as such after provings, toxicology reports, clinical and personal reports (do not forget Hering and Lachesis, he was not Sri Lankan though) and let us not forget that there is still a lot to learn from each remedy. I believe that it is not the same getting old has the same psycho-physiologic effect in a social group (ie. native American) that acknowledges ageing as a holly process than in other where it is dismissed, in the second “worse for aging” is seen as a non rare-peculiar nor strange symptom. To understand that, it is important to have a s
ense of the physiopathology of ageing and stress, it is call Gerontology.
It maybe a simple statement, but if we join those who study the quality of life, and the morbidity of ageing might consider the epidemic genius of Arnica in it. Almost everybody who practice Homeopathy end up “grouping” individuals in a scope that goes from 50 or less to 200-300 remedies in the best of the scenarios. There is no one remedy for each person unless you “use” each person as a base for a remedy.
I have to say that I have learned a lot from the list through the years. I have limited my intereventions to the reports of our work in the use of Homeopathy with the survivors of the tsunami, but felt the need to respond for the sake of somebody with whom I shared the possibilities of this homeopathic forum in terms of education and exchange in Homeopathy.

Rene R. Guarnaluse Arce.
MD, sp. Endocrinology, Havana, Cuba.
Dipl. Hom.
NY. USA

It is hard to believe:

Ever since I have been on the lists I have heard arnica recommended for all kinds of things - it also seems everyone has taken arnica freely for all kinds of things - all potencies - and never a peep from anyone about adverse reactions.

Now Joe recommended it for sleeplessness - and after one measly pill of C6 there occur frightful symptoms never heard of before when taken for other reasons. Enough to sound serious warnings about individualization and the entire other hallowed principles of homeopathy.

Anyone taking this serious should forget about taking remedies as precautions for flu, malaria whatever.

I shudder to think what will happen to those poor unsuspecting vacationers taking cantharis for sunburn without first consulting their trusted classical homeopath for their own individually chosen remedy.

After all- it was not just arnica having those dire effects: poor old Na. phos did the same.

L.O.L.!!

Regards

Luise

Are you laughing out load from sheer horror, or because you think something so serious is really funny, or maybe a nervous reaction regarding your own words.

Many people, myself included, have frequently warned against routine use of ANY rx (on various homeopathy lists) - so plenty of peeps.

As for prophylactic prescribing that's another story.

Joy

I try to make the medicine fit the case. I'm not sure what to use for humorless sanctimony.

Richard Knapp

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Originally Posted by j tikari Joe De Livera's suggestion re. Arnica, may not help ALL. But if it helps some, it is brilliant.

"Brilliant"? Inventing the light bulb was brilliant. Repeating a remedy ad.
infin. is...not so "brilliant".

Quote:

Originally Posted by j tikari I am experimenting with this on myself - so far so good - I am experiencing, I think, some good feelings and an undisturbed sleep.

"I think"? Then take a tablet of Kali phos. 6x every night, or any number of remedies, and compare...then, a double-blind test...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Quote: demeaning and childishly demented statements of Richard Knapp I try to make the medicine fit the case. I'm not sure what to use for humorless sanctimony.

Not everybody have to laugh at our "humor" (pus). Hurting try towards somebody who treated me like a father. My advise, if you do not know what to use for something do not use anything.

In Spanish we have a saying "Shoemaker to your shoes", keep analysing databases....

Rene R. Guarnaluse Arce.
MD, sp. Endocrinology Havana, Cuba
Dipl. Hom
Ny, USA