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Old 5th May 2005, 10:45 AM
Qamar Mahmood
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Hellow all homoeopaths.
please help me. i am working on "methodologies of homoeopathic practice with philosophical justification. i mean either way of practice you have experienced but i need its justification that why you are doing this type of practice i mean either classical or non classical like polypharmacy/ uses of material grugs(mother tincture) or what ever ever you are practicing please send me you openion with justification or reasons.

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Old 5th May 2005, 06:25 PM
susan cohen
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Hello,

You might want to look at the principles and philosophy of Heilkunst. Please refer to www.heilkunst.com. This is a very principled and ordered way of looking at what disease is and how to make the patient whole. It is the true art and science of what Doctor Hahnemann laid down in the sixth edition of the Organon.

Susan
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Old 5th May 2005, 06:55 PM
Sheri Nakken
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In NO WAY is heilkunst the true art and science of what Hahnemann laid down in the 6th edition of the Organon.

Sheri

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Old 5th May 2005, 07:05 PM
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Hi Sheri,

Would you kindly explain your comment?

Thanks,
Susan
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Old 5th May 2005, 07:15 PM
Sheri Nakken
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We have been thru this ad nauseum on this list with Ati, Why don't you explain why it IS homeopathy according to the 6th edition

I don't care to get into it again. Just making a statement so those who are not informed about the 6th edition and homeopathy won't be misled

Sheri
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Old 5th May 2005, 07:45 PM
David Hartley
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Many comments have been made regarding Rudi Verspoor's offshoot of ST ('sequential therapy') a decidedly NON-Hahnemannian modality championed by one Dr. Elmiger.

The crass dishonesty of this so-called heilkunst is astounding. In order to attempt to justify a 'system' which is CLEARLY derivative of Elmiger's ST, the heilkunstler in chief had a custom-tailored 'translation' of some of Hahnemann's writings done by a NON-homeopath.. slanted to veer meanings AWAY from what the rest of the world understands of Hahnemann and his brainchild. Despicable.

Also despicable: said custom-translation was offered for sale to the public. Oddly enough, after my order was taken and my check sent in for a copy... my check was mailed back to me uncashed, no explanation offered as to why.

Not hard to guess, though!
Still to this day, I have not been able to obtain a copy of this so-called translation (if it even exists !)
Incredibly dishonest, to attempt to revise history (and all of homeopathy based on a custom-tailored translation which is subsequently made specifically UNAVAILABLE.

If you have a desire for knowledge related to the differences between homeopathy and the trumped-up ST of the Apple Hill Gang, read:
www.simillimum.com/Thelittlelibrary/Homoeopathicphilosophy/specifics.html

http://www.simillimum.com/Thelittlel...ticles/st.html

IF, after reading, you wish to continue to attempt to promote the bogus 'heilkunst' of your employers

(d'OH ... susan @ homeopathy.com ...hmm isn't homeopathy.com the domain name which was virtually stolen from BIH ?!)

Well anyhow.. you won't want to be peddling those wares here, I don't think.

sincerely,

David Hartley
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Old 5th May 2005, 07:55 PM
David Hartley
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> We have been thru this ad nauseum on this list with Ati

Correction:

First with Rudi, then he bailed out and left Patti in disguise; she blew her cover and left us with Ati, who dropped a few gems including BRAGGING about one case in which Rudi's ST-cum-heilkunst rountinism caused a life-threatening 'aggravation'

Lessee.. who was it after Ati gave up trying to promote this junk? What was her name.. hmm..

well anyhow, I hope you're not being paid based on how many converts you can make here <grin>

David Hartley
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Old 5th May 2005, 08:35 PM
Luise Kunkle
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While I do not share Dave's (and others') condemnation of Rudi Verspoer's method, I do second the condemnation of his "so-called" translation and that he advertises his own philosophy as that of Hahnemann.

I say this as a German first language person who has worked quite a bit with the various translations of the Organon.

While none of them is correct - Decker's is probably the worst. It is the worst I have come across and probably the worst that could be made - in fact, it cannot be called a translation at all. (At least those parts that are quoted in Rudi's book.)

Regards

Luise
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Old 5th May 2005, 09:05 PM
Robert & Shannon Nelson
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Is that the same as Wenda O'Reilley's? (I have them associated in my mind...)
You say "one of them is correct"--which do you have in mind?
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Old 5th May 2005, 10:55 PM
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Hi Luise,

I would be truly interested to find out where Decker's translation errs. I have been led to believe that his Inter-Linear translation of the Organon is correct as he is supposed to be an expert on the German language used during the time of Hahnemann. From what I have learned, the flavor as well as the context of the German language has changed in the last 200 years. I would like to be able to clarify this for myself and for others, would you be able to direct me towards a passage in the Inter-Linear translation that is completely off base?

Thanks,
Susan
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