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Old 15th January 2005, 05:05 PM
Christo Karaivanov,DVM,PhD
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Hi All,

Bellow is a fragment I've just come accross on the web:

"Q. Can I potentise any allopathic medicine?
A. Yes, you can potentise any allopathic medicine at 200C potency and prescribe TDS. This should give the same benefits as the allopathic drug but without its side effects."

I'm wondering if really an allopathic medicine at 200C potency has the same indications as the non-potentised original. I thing that 1x potency is more close to the original substance than 200C?!

I would love to hear what you think about it.

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Christo
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Old 15th January 2005, 05:55 PM
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It's that kind of **** that gets the Pharm Co's in a panic about their profits

It is of course complete nonsense

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Old 15th January 2005, 07:45 PM
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It's bullsh*t. Without actually >proving< that which was potentized, there's absolutely no way of know its effects. Does table salt have the "same benefits" as Nat. mur. 30c? Does raw bushmaster venom have the "same benefits" as Lachesis 200c?
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Old 16th January 2005, 12:25 AM
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This is ****-- answerd by someone who has NO IDEA. An allopathic medicine works on a specific physical level of the body. While many can be used in much lower dosages than generally used, once the medicine is potentized, the "physicality" of it is lost. I have not come across any references to the potenized drug having the same effect as the non-potentized drug. The only way to determine this would be through a homeopathic proving.

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Old 16th January 2005, 04:00 AM
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"Q. Can I potentise any allopathic medicine?

A. Yes, you can potentise any allopathic medicine at 200C potency and prescribe TDS. This should give the same benefits as the allopathic drug but without its side effects."


Regards,

Christo
The above question answer is absoutly correct. yes, you can potentised an allopathic medicine and you also take to 200 c or plus. The only difference is you prescribe that potentised medicine on drug's actual contra indications. Many homeopaths have done it before and got good result. Dr. Manish Bhattia has potentized a steriod and used over his patients.
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I always suspected that any potentised healing substance may just be showing just healing effects & any crude substance/crude healing agent may be showing effects+side/adverse/toxic/harsh effects. There can always be some portion of potentized substance & balance just crude, in any crude substance. We can judge it by applying crude common salt on skin or just gargling(not taking inside) with salt dissolved in water.
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Originally Posted by Christo Karaivanov,DVM,PhD
Hi All,

Bellow is a fragment I've just come accross on the web:

"Q. Can I potentise any allopathic medicine?
A. Yes, you can potentise any allopathic medicine at 200C potency and prescribe TDS. This should give the same benefits as the allopathic drug but without its side effects."

I'm wondering if really an allopathic medicine at 200C potency has the same indications as the non-potentised original. I thing that 1x potency is more close to the original substance than 200C?!

I would love to hear what you think about it.

Regards,

Christo
I won't go into any great detail re: potentising an allopathic drug as I have already made posts regarding my brothers addiction (see the thread re: reactions to withdrawals from antidepressants) where I mentioned potentising an allopathic drug.
I made a homeopathic preparation out of a 5mg Valium tablet (kindly donated by a GP who knew and understood what we were doing) in a 1X potency (plus Passiflora MT and Opium 6C). I have since found out that I could/should have potentised cocaine (which is his 'drug of preference') but, heck, where would an old fart like me find cocaine and he wasn't in a fit state to go buy any. I know it may not sound funny to some people but my 74 yr old Mum and I ended up in a fit of giggles as we went through ways of trying to 'score' just a few grains of cocaine and trying to explain why we needed it!!!
Anway, it all most certainly helped him through the DT's. I believe by doing this it was not as toxic, non-addictive and we were able to do a home de-tox rather than send him to a centre. He also had Vit B1 (Thiamine) that is essential during the de-tox process and has been followed up with Avena sat. MT, Angelica MT, Quercus Spiritus Glandium 3X.
I too Christo, would very interested to hear if giving him Valium (or even cocaine) in 200C would work even better as I chose after careful thought, to go with the closest form to the allopathic drug i.e. a 1X potency.
Think about it...if you give someone allopathic Valium and it relaxes them/stops the DT's, then if you give it to them in a homeopathic 200C potency, isn't the opposite going to happen? Aren't you going to antidote the very effects you want from the allopathic drug?
I don't know and I have spent so many hours pondering it and asking questions on this forum and another one, plus anyone else I can 'buttonhole' regarding the potentising of allopathic drugs so I'm glad someone else has asked the question finally. Thankyou and hopefully we'll get some good data out of your post.
In gratitude,
Fiona
P.S. Can you pls tell me where on the web you found the info you mentioned above?
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Think about it...if you give someone allopathic Valium and it relaxes them/stops the DT's, then if you give it to them in a homeopathic 200C potency, isn't the opposite going to happen? Aren't you going to antidote the very effects you want from the allopathic drug?
Homeopathic potentised remedies can show both proving & healing effects(homeopathic) as well as aggravations. Can't these be utilized as per the requirement--avoiding the adversities?
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That is my very question? How do you know what the "adversities" are going to be according to each individual? How do I know if a 1X or a 200c of Valium, Cocaine, alcohol (Quercus) is going to heal or aggravate or prove apart from experimenting on my brother which is a dangerous thing to do given the fact that making a wrong descision could aggravate his situation and, given the circumstances, cause him to OD? And no, I would not feel guilty, nor do I feel it is my sole purpose in ife to 'save' him - however I would like someone. anyone, who is a qualified homeo practitioner to take some sort of interest in the problem so that we can start working out a way of helping these people with a disease/illness that is no different from any other physical/mental disease/illness.
It is so frustrating kayveeh to know that homeopathy works miracles and yet, I STILL cannot get a definite answer as to what potency would work best.
I've been told that homeo Capiscum, Cimicifuga, Hyoscyamus, Lachesis, Nux, Opuim, Ranunculus and Stramonium are also good remedies for alcoholism. Then there is Kudzu MT.
What is more frustrating is that drug & alcohol addictions are one of the main scourges humankind yet homeopathy has not so far, seemed to have taken any particular interest in it.
Going back to Christo's orginal question: if I could potentise allopathic drugs, what potency would I use?
I have been asking this question for months and months and yet I am no closer to an answer.
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The above question answer is absoutly correct. yes, you can potentised an allopathic medicine and you also take to 200 c or plus. The only difference is you prescribe that potentised medicine on drug's actual contra indications. Many homeopaths have done it before and got good result. Dr. Manish Bhattia has potentized a steriod and used over his patients.
Can you please explain this to me in more detail?

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