Hi,

Can anybody tell me anything about the remedy swan? I already know that it is dwelling on some past grief like nat-m. But I'm looking for some more. I already ordered the book from Shore but It hasn;t arrived yet. So in the meantime everything is welcome.

W.

Hi Wiet,

Here are some very sketchy notes from Jeremy Sherr's lecture on Cygnus cygnus I remember the grief theme as being very deep and long grief, deeper than Nat-m or Ign.

Swan-cygnus Cygnus

Impossible to teach swan without crying
Two swans in the zoo
Swan is the finnish national bird
Cygnus Cygnus needs a long runway
Straight beak
Whooping swan=maybe same as trumpeter swan
Song that it sings

Heart chest
Live life from the heart

I have left my heart behind
Lungs and shoulders are further down
Feeling sadness and elation at same time
Sad for lonleiness
A broken heart
Cannot bridge gap between fantasy and reality
Long neck creates big distance between head and heart

Major neck remedies-stiffness

Hollow, empty full filling

Sighing deeply
Grateful for air
Filled with holy breath
Chest if full of tears

Sighing

As if a bubble bursting,
I feel as if I need ignatia

=ignatia to the third power
=nat-m to the second power


crow loud peacock proud

light heavy
heavy limp feeling in the body sad and lonely

spirals

tall graceful
sense of feeling tall
pilates

lighthouses

number 3
mind body spirit
soul is feminine aspect stays the same
spirit is male aspect goes out into the world

parallel
even odd numbers
emotions
love
overwhelming love for everyone, opening heart
unconditional full love

swans mate for life, stay alone if one dies
swan lake-a story of death and separation
tremendous grief

abandoned, lonely
deep emotions

for us it's too late, stood at the gate
farewell letter, make it better?
Too much pain
Begin again
Like to return
Lungs so burn
Pain in neck
What the heck
Battery low
Time to go
Etc

Feel like outsider

Grief from death
As if I will never see anyone again
Provers revisited intense and deeper grief from past griefs
More ignatia than nat-m
But also has no tears

Weeping
Tears came from nowhere

Self pity

Exciting cause-grief and lost love

Suicidal thoughts
Outsider

Vulnerable, feel excluded-ugly duckling


Home homesick
Birth death
Something about the space between the spaces-between birth and death Inevitability of death even at time of birth

Childhood
Water dry
Animals-
Birds, blackbirds, swan silhouette ,
Prison trapped
Pollution, poison, dirt
Allergy to chemicals, cleaning products
Blood is stagnant
Contaminated
Detox diet
Feel poisoned
Need to clean
Colors
Especially black and white,
Checkered
Crosswords
Black and white clothes

Swans in the southern hemisphere are black
Constellation of Cygnus

Woman born in 1956. aquarius
Sighing
Suicidal since childhood and dreams
Often attempted suicide
Loneliness as a child, cried at all tv shows
I think about flying off
Lump in throat heartburn
Desire for carrots custard
Asthma, hayfever, difficult breathing
Rheumatic <wet weather <sea
Movie-love story, dr. zhivago, the piano-remedy that you feel
Animal-more chronic than ignatia
Awkward on land
Ballerina-legs moving actively, upper body graceful

Mute swan in the movie-holly hunter must have been a ballet dancer


Jim

James P. Gregorich, CHom.
2241 4th Street
Boulder, CO 80302

Hi list,

here's my additional experience with the essence of Swan;


Sun up 07:58
Slightly clouded, waterwet weather. seven queues announced on the radio.

Before me two cars drive round something big; I saw them suddenly pull out. On the road lies a dead swan. I move to the right and step out. The swan lays stretched on the bituminous road. The wings where the bone stake out down, the feet behind, the head forwards.A tear runs from his opened eye over his cheek. His eye unbroken, looks into mine.

From his body the intestines come out.

I kneel next to him and whisper unspoken words with the bruised body. Then I lift him in my arms, a hand round his strong and magnificent neck, and lay him gently next to the waterside, away from the traffic. There I leave him.
From both sides new cars come. The air is full of birds. The sun has come up allready. Spring will come soon. I sigh. In my hands remain the softness of his white furry feathers, the smooth coolness of his long wings. The warmth of his body. His fresh scent of air. His bigness, his weight. His strength in heaviness, in lightness like an angel.

I will not not call the police to fetch this corpse. No, I hope he may become earth, wind, water. The big black crow's shall eat him. Beautiful, plentifull, fresh meat. And the kestrel (windhover) that allways hangs in the air in the corner of the crossing shall have his share.

And his feathers will fly in all directions, so eventually he will be so much larger than the borders of his body were, and he will be part of a large area, where he will feed and nourish surrounding and earth.


Marie Louise

Re: Swan notes:
James, this is fantastic!
Marie Louise, thanks very much. ;)
Dr Leela

www.homeopathy2health.com

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Hello,

The *Swan* story was wonderful. As one who sadly must regularly give back to the earth Her beings, it was very meaningful. Thank you for that. I always hope the lost beings live on somehow.

As for the Swan proving, I can't help but be concerned how/what was employed in making the remedy. Has anyone that data? Did the participants know the remedy was *swan*, hence the reference to *long necks*?

As much as I dearly love homeopathy, I have serious moral issues with using purposely killed animals to make remedies. (It's why I won't use Oscillococcinum, for instance, however life threatening flu might be for me. I don't believe it *homeopathic* that one life be sacrificed for another.)

I also have a problem with the human interpretation of the animal's behavior, interpreted into rubrics. So few are genuinely intimate with each of these animal species, to actually know how/why they really act and respond.

Best,
Georgianna

The remedy Cygnus c. was made from a feather that fell out naturally.
Melanie Grimes

I also have a big problem with this-- too much guesswork from our own psyche- and too much potential for delusion. However, that which comes from clinical use--- this is GREAT information.

Beth

Hiding in the roadside tufts and bracing herself against the sudden gusts, the little mouse managed "Oh, (sob) he was so beautiful (sob)" as she blew her nose with dandelion lace.

"There, there, Tipsy" said daddy mouse, a tear welled in his eye, not for the dead swan but for the memory of his sweet, sweet wife Meade, who had suffered a similar fate, but for different and altogether less avoidable reasons. Padre Stoat who was always the first to be called stammered, "he was a fool that Derek. Let us remember..."

"He was a hero!" Tipsy's shrill whisper interrupted, her eyes wide as she remembered gliding through the air, trying not to lose her grip on Derek's neck as she shivered from excitement. She loved the way he soared through the sky whether she was on his back or not, she loved him and he loved her, she just knew it. He loved her because he gave her the rides not that Leda bitch, too drunk on toad-tipple to hold on anyway. Now he'd never be able to utter the words but she knew when he zoomed for the third time under a huge road box he did it for her, his Tipsy. Tipsy thought to herself as she broke into uncontrollable sobs "if only Leda had finished the spiked drink instead of fluttering her crossed eyes and giving it to Derek!"

Padre Stoat finished, "Let us remember -Don't Drink and Dive!"

Henry Leadbetter

Cygnus Cygnus (Whooper swan) was proved in 2001 by Jeremy Sherr and his Dynamis School. The proving is a full classical proving done with the rigor and precision that earmark all of Jeremy Sherr’s provings and set forth in his book, The Dynamics and Methodology of Homoeopathic Provings. This means that provers and supervisors were blind to the substance throughout the proving, provers were carefully supervised, symptoms were meticulously recorded and precisely edited.

The proving can be found published in Dynamic Provings Vol 2 available at homeopathic bookstores. This provides substance information, historical and mythological information (and sourcing) as well as proving themes and proving symptoms.

Also included in this volume is another excellent swan proving: Cygnus columbianus bewicki, Bewick Swan proved by Penny Stirling as well as Pacific salmon, Brassica, Olive tree, Cracked willow, English yew tree (taxus baccata) and Pacific yew tree (taxus brevifolia).

An article by Camilla Sherr citing two Cygnus cygnus cases appeared in The Homoeopath in October, 2002.

Hope this information is helpful!
Tina Quirk

Here's a short bit from Divya:

SWAN
• The swan is looking for the ideal love and passion that can make him free from the boundaries of self, instead finds himself trapped in a compromise of unfulfilled sexuality, unfulfilled love and a loss of boundaries where he finds himself forced to do all he does not want.
• Instead of the freedom and pure love, which would give him an unbounded flight to new and powerful heights, he finds himself sucked powerlessly down into the dirty world of exploitation of the purity of love and sex, world of rape, pedophilia and brutality.
• From this he yearns for the flight of escape.

Love and sexuality. Misunderstood sexuality of women. Want to meet soul mate. Rejection of sexuality by spouse or sexual abuse. Perhaps unfulfilled sexuality. Pure clean experience of sex as escape from this world. Fears loss of oneself. Identity. Being oneself.

Susanne