To all members,
I tried to find out about the current use of the homoeopathic remedy Viscum album and came accross Iscador. The Germans use it a lot in cancer treatment and it is administered usually as a injection by doctors applying alternative medicine.

Is Iscador a homoeopathic remedy or just a very dilute product? Which variety eg oak or apple is for which cancer.
If Iscador is not homeopathic are the medicated pills of Viscum used todya and what are the prime uses and indications for the remedy.
Has anybody done a recent proving of the original substance/

Thanks for any replys

Gizz

Visc alb is best known and used in cases of epilepsy. It has been used to to expel retained placenta. It is the Mistletoe used as an excuse to kiss pretty girls but there are no known [to me] cases of its use in cancer. It can be prepared from berries , leaves or whole plant.

In Germany Viscum Album is used for cancer treatment but not as a homeopathic remedy but more like a herbal cure. Many doctors use the so-called "mistel kur" where the extract from the plant is given by injection and each cancer needs different plans of this family.

In general, one should not compare anthroposophical and homeopathic remedies. Iscador is an anthroposophical remedy, and as always, Wala is very specific about the way it is prepared (like in mixing summer and winter extracts, handling of such extracts etc.).
There are several other companies (like Abnoba: http://www.abnoba.de/ )producing viscum-based remedies. Mostly the remedies are based on extracts from viscum on quercus, fraxinus, etc.

(See http://www.goetheanum-medizin.ch/fil...HEILM_engl.pdf for a bit more on anthroposophical preparations).

HIH,

Hennie

Viscum album mali preparations, for example, are made at Weleda AG in Switzerland by protocols which include potentisation.

Even the shape of the motion in potentisation have been studied and refined, and mixing equipment designed and built to potentise according to these protocols.

Weleda distribute their Viscum Album products under the trademark Iscador.

Ernst von Bezold

In my search about modern data for Viscum album I came across Weleda/Iscador products.As far as I understad they are anthropological remedies not homoeopathic. this difference might be academic concerning the potentisation process but there are also differenes between the products eg they are either fermented or not. Various products have different methods of production according to anthropologial methodology. Also since they are injected they can only be given by a qualified medical practitioner.

G. Pearce

The Iscador products are well-documented anthroposophical remedies which are picked, fermented and prepared exactingly according to principles of, essentially, modern Rosicrucian alchemy as expounded by Rudolf Steiner and further elaborated experimentally and clinically during about the last 80 years. The preparations are identified as being potentised to low decimal potencies.

They are prescribed and my understanding is that they are injected except in cases of brain cancer, when they are taken orally to avoid swelling of the brain.

Except for IV adminstration protocols, they are typically injected subcutaneously and often are self-administered folllowing instruction on self-injection by the medical practitioner.

Depending on the jursidiction, if available a new or refill prescription may or may not be required by law, but it certainly seems to be the manufacturer?s model and intention that access shall be determined by physicians as part of a comprehensive approach to therapy for body, soul and spirit.

Published clinical studies and findings on this remarkable remedywhich acts directly and indirectly as a positive immune modulator, are extensive and show there is often substantial patient benefit. Annual cost of the medication, which typically may and should be continued for years, is currently in the range of $500 US at a maintenance dose level.

Ernst von Bezold

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Originally Posted by Ernst The Iscador products are well-documented anthroposophical remedies which are picked, fermented and prepared exactingly according to principles of, essentially, modern Rosicrucian alchemy as expounded by Rudolf Steiner and further elaborated experimentally and clinically during about the last 80 years. The preparations are identified as being potentised to low decimal potencies.

Afaik Iscador is an exception - it is not potentized.

Regards

Luise

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Originally Posted by Gizz In my search about modern data for Viscum album I came accross Weleda/Iscador products.As far as I understad they are anthropological remedies not homoeopathic. this difference might be academic concerning the potentisation process but there are also differenes between the products eg they are either fermented or not. Various products have different methods of production according to anthropologial methodology. Also since they are injected they can only be given by a qualified medical practitioner.

This is a common misunderstanding.
What makes any substance homeopathic is *not* its preparation, but whether it produces symptoms similar to those found in a sick person.

While Anthroposophical remedies are prescribed according to a different set of criteria than those in homeopathy, they are no more nor less "homeopathic".

Kenneth!

Could you describe or give a web-site where the set of criteria of how Anthroposophical remedies are prescribed differently to homoeopathy? This would be rather helpful to clarify this point in my head.

Thanks Gizz