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Old 30th October 2004, 06:29 PM
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Manager, R&D, SBL
(SBL = Sharada Boiron Limited, India)
sbl@vsnl.com

cc: SBL corporate office, Delhi, India
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(I will be posting a copy of this email to Homeolist - International Homeopathic Discussion Web Forum. Any reply from your end, will also be posted there. Homoelist may be seen at www.otherhealth.com , It's a closed forum - for members .
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Dear Ma'm,

I am a classical homoeopathic practitioner and I would like to purchase a full stock of SBL dilutions for my clinic.
I use BT-usa remedies and I am interested in switching to SBL.
However your local office here in calcutta, could not answer my pre order questions. May I request you for a reply.

My basic question is about the source / origin of the back potencies that are used for the dilutions. I have checked your website and their is no clear info on this.

Are the dilutions made from tinctures of indian origin / foreign plants grown in india ? If so, how do they match with the provings of plants grown on foreign soil ?. We know the difference between the clinical effects of the same plant cannabis, grown in india (cannabis indica) and usa (cannabis sativa).

your website cites logistical infeasibility / custom deptt / possibilty of microbiological contamination etc as reasons why raw fresh plants from foreign countries cannot be brought to india. I wonder if the dilutions are made from the mother tinctures made from these dried plants - will they match the classical provings ?
(I limit my question to the quality of the dilutions and not go into the issue of the quality of the mother tinctures made from these dried plants)

or do you use authentic usa / europe (Boiron ?) back potencies and prepare the dilutions from them ? A simple clarifying statement to this effect (with a clear mention of the source) on your website can end this confusion.

your website mentions and I quote "All back-potencies are exclusively made at SBL for making Dilutions.".
I clearly remember reading a SBL pamphlet years ago, that said that the SBL remedies were made from "imported back potencies"
Has the situation changed ?

Kindly do enlighten the homoeopathic community, about the facts.

I thank SBL for providing "world class homoeopathic remedies at no extra cost" . You do deserve the GMP and the ISO 9001:2000 certification. I have read all the details about your committment to quality, R&D, use of extra neutral alcohol, demineralized water, sterilization procedures, computerized potentizer etc etc on your website (www.sblglobal.com). I had read a few posts on the homeolist, where some international members were doubting the quality of SBL remedies and I hope this will satisfy them. They may check more details on your website.

May I request you again, on behalf on the whole homeopathic community, to tell us about the origin / source of ALL the back potencies, that are used in the preparation of the potentized dilutions.

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Dr Manish Agarwala
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this is the reply that I have recd. from SBL
(in reply to my email to SBL - a copy of which was posted on homeolist earlier)
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03/11/04

Dr. Manish Agarwala
Calcutta

Dear Sir,

Thank you for your e-mail of 30th Oct. 04 wherein you have shown
interest in SBL dilutions.

Regarding the source / origin of the back potency used in dilutions:

Those of herbal origin:-

- All dilutions made from available mother tinctures in our catalogue
are exclusively made at SBL.
- All dilutions made from chemicals of pharma grade quality available
in
India are made at SBL.
- Only medicines of origin like Sarcodes, Nosodes or those herbs /
chemicals not made available in India, the lowest back potency are
imported. All subsequent back potencies of those are also made at SBL.

Hope this satisfies your query regarding back potency made exclusively
by SBL.

We will ask our Medical Rep. to meet you for booking the order.
Please
furnish your address / telephone no. so that you may be contacted.

Best regards,
Dr. Beena Thomas
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Old 3rd November 2004, 10:30 PM
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dear colleagues,

may I request the list members to share their experience about SBL remedies ?

I would also particularly request the indian members of the homeolist, to write to the list about the pharmacies they trust - for their centesimal remedies.

at my end - I have not used hahnemann labs (usa) and helios (uk) remedies, but I have heard a great deal about them. I have visited michael quinn's hah. labs website and I have respect for his remedies, I must say !

rajan sankaran wrote to me that he uses helios remedies (for centesimals) and hapco (calcutta) for LMs.

I have used a few ainsworths (uk) remedies and I have found them to be good.

I trust homeopathy international (calcutta) for LMs.

all those old and very old practitioners in calcutta, have always trusted hapco remedies. almost all the old teachers I know - trust and use BT -usa and buy from hapco.

please share your experience with all of us.

dr manish agarwala

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Old 4th November 2004, 11:15 AM
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Hi,
regarding BT - if you meant B&T - you should know that they do not sell (as far as I know) SINGLE remedies any more, except for a very limited list of 40 or so.

Rafy

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Old 5th November 2004, 10:06 AM
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B&T was bought by the Schwabe co. in (I think) 1988. It moved its operation to CA in 1992. Almost all of its original stocks were thrown out. The B&T remedies available from hapco and ainsworth all come from the old stocks.

B&T closed its operations a few months ago. The manufacturing of the *brand name* B&T is being done, I believe, in Mexico. They are selling mostly combination remedies under the B&T name.

JW

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