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"We know we're going to have a pandemic because, historically, we're overdue for one," Quote: Overdue for one? Gosh, why don't they tell us the pandemic schedule. This is like the stuff about some areas being "overdue for tornadoes" - as if they know. Gee, if they know, they can share the schedule with us.

LOL! This is a common misconception about probability. People tend to think if they haven't seen a particular result in a while it is more likely to happen, but this isn't true if the events are independent of previous outcomes. For instance, if you flip a coin and get heads 50 times in a row, you might htink you are more likely to get tails the next time - but the chance is still 50-50!
Tracy

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Originally Posted by Shannon Hm. They don't advertise, lobby or influence doctors' practices? Or fund their own studies or suppress unfavorable results? What noble folk... :-)

Money. It's always about money. It's not about "helping" - just dollars.

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Originally Posted by Shannon And ah, that wicked "public", to disdain the careful efforts at lifestyle instruction education that our noble pharmaceutical companies so scrupulously offer!

Naive.

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"We know we're going to have a pandemic because, historically, we're overdue for one,"

It's called statistics.

Sheila Rhodes

An interesting point is that the flu mutates very rapidly about every 7 days I believe . So what is the point of a vaccine that has no hope of catching the muatation on the hop. The one that will kill is not the one included in the mix!!.

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Originally Posted by passkey An interesting point is that the flu mutates very rapidly about every 7 days I believe . So what is the point of a vaccine that has no hope of catching the muatation on the hop. The one that will kill is not the one included in the mix!!.

The point is $$$$$$$$ and keeping everyone in the US in fear. And there is no evidence it even works for the ones that are included
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Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

Email NewsletterHi List members,

I received this from WHP.

Is this the way to make Influenzinum according to the HPUS or other pharmacopeas?

TIA

Rafy

----- Original Message -----
~~EMAIL NEWSLETTER OCTOBER 2004~~

~~ INFLUENZINUM ~~

We have it as of 10/7/2004

Influenzinum is made each year from the influenza vaccination shot. Here's how it is made, and how we have made it for years. It is in the HPUS (Homeopathic Pharmacopoeia of the United States). We take the shot itself and place it in 9 parts water and succuss (25 thumps)- the result is 1x - We then take that 1x, put in 9 parts alcohol and succuss it again and make a 2x (& a 1c). The 3x or 2c are then made separately - 1:9 (x) or 1:99 (c). We continue in this manner up to 30x and 30c (by hand and from the 30c on to the 200c using the Helios potentizing machine).

I doubt that it makes much difference whether you take an x or c - whatever you usually do keep doing it.

Following Dr. Torok's (MD in Ohio) instructions to his patients we recommend taking the Influenzinum once a month each month through the flu season. Tne bottle has enough pills for many doses - thus you can easily share the bottle with the rest of the family. If you already have the flu, his instructions are to take it 3 or 4 times until the symptoms back off then repeat as needed. Dr. Torok has also told his patients who have side effects to the flue shot to use the Influenzinum once or twice as needed Last year there was a mild run on the Influenzinum and this year with the shortage of vaccine we expect a bit larger number of sales - especially since it works.

If you order and take the remedy PLEASE go to the National Center for Homeopathy's web site:homeopathic.org - they have information on the history of using homeopathy with the flu. They are also collecting data on efficacy. You can participate by simply checking whether it worked or not, or go on into the entire project. If and when a single remedy for this flu (genus epidemicus) becomes known they will have the information. (When I get it I'll also send it along).

If there ever was a way to get people to try homeopathy this might be the way, however, I want to note: We do not believe in scaring the hell out of people in order to make a sale. In this case I think they have already been scared by the news that the vaccine's availability has been severely compromised - It's quite a show - they essentially tell you not to take it if you are breathing - well, not quite, but..... We also have Oscillococcinum, Longevity's Cold and Flu, our own Influenza # 26 combination, and the Pflueger remedies Naranotox (recurring) and Eucalyptus (flu now). They all seem to work. All available online

- I'd love it if you let me know what you do and results.

We have moved the Bethesda store to Berkeley Springs.
800-336-1695 - www.homeopathyworks.com

Friends,

"Passkey" wrote, and Sheri Nakken responded by saying that companies do this to make money (Sherri...you're getting way too predictable)...to answer Passkey's question/concern: While the DOLIVAXIL may or may not have the specific flu virus in which you may be infected, it may be close enough (I think the word is SIMIILAR!) that it can elicit a preventive effect.

And as for making money, I am generally pleased to hear that homeopathic companies are doing something to make money, especially since they are not very profitable companies. In case you didn't hear, Boiron and Dolisos have now become ONE company because of financial dramas in France forcing them to work together.

As for me...I'm pleased that my company selling an effective and safe product to help prevent the flu (and others to treat it). I use my profits to help grow homeopathy. Is that a problem?

By the way, Dolisos has run out of Dolivaxil for a month. Luckily, I have a supply, though it is rapidly being reduced.

Dana Ullman

www.homeopathic.com

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Originally Posted by Dana "Passkey" wrote the below email, and Sheri Nakken responded by saying that companies do this to make money (Sherri...you're getting way too predictable)...to answer Passkey's question/concern: While the DOLIVAXIL may or may not have the specific flu virus in which you may be infected, it may be close enough (I think the word is SIMIILAR!) that it can elicit a preventive effect.

I was referring to vaccines as that was what passkey was talking about

see below.....

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Originally Posted by passkey An interesting point is that the flu mutates very rapidly about every 7 days I believe . So what is the point of a vaccine that has no hope of catching the muatation on the hop. The one that will kill is not the one included in the mix!!."

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The " elicit a protective response " is the standard excuse for vaccination.
But vaccination is more often harmful , than protective. I wont quote great chunks of Moskowitz and Coulter ' Shot in the Dark´But the essential point is that the attenuated vaccine will provoke a response and the immune system will go into action and mop some of the vaccine up . Here is where the pharmaceutical companies stop their blurb. BUT some of the vaccine ' which can penetrate cell walls ' will save itself by taking refuge in the nearest cell . This has two effects .. one is that eventually the immune system will conclude that the cells containing fugative vaccine are NOT ME and attack itself ... not good!.
The other stems from the same point but concerns the ability of individual cells to maintain their contact with the internal communication system of the body ... which allows them to know their own location , and their function in connection with that location. Endometriosis ,etc.

Dana, your comments did not sit well with me

I am not the enemy here
and I spend hours a day trying to get people out of the fear programmed into them by allopathic medicine, drug companies, government and the media. I don't jump right in and tell everyone to take a homeopathic prevention for something I see as major hype.

But I was talking about money made by vaccine companies

Sheri