Hello:

I am hoping that some of the esteemed members of this list could be of assistance. I have been reading in Clark's MM about Rhus, both radicans and toxicodendron. Rhus tox is technically poison oak and Rhus r. is poison ivy. Both extremely prolific plants. Here in the U.S. Rhus r. is available only with a prescription and Rhus tox is readily available . Would someone be able to explain why certain remedies are by prescription only? I also came across this same situation with Carlsbad.

Thanks for your help - and, yes, I realize they are available in England, but I'm not keen on the shipping charges, etc. plus I am just plain curious.

Beverle

Most strange.

The old definition was that Rhus tox grew on the ground and Rhus rad grew up trees. They were considered to be two different species. Then someone found a tox growing which, when it found a tree, went up it. End of a difference. Rhus tox is IN the Pharmacopoeia, and Rhus rad is NOT. Carlsbad is not in either, since it can no longer be made since the spring has dried up.

Whoever you are trying to buy it from is sticking to the letter of the law and will not sell anything that is not OTC (an in the HPUS) without an Rx. Try another pharmacy.

JW

Agree ....Clarke , in his dictionary of the Materia Med confirms that both Tox and Rad mey be regarded as the same , which does not apply to Rhus Arom , Rhus Glabra or Rhus Divers.
Certainly I use Calsbad as well as other spring water remedies , Gastein , Wiesbad etc.
Why one asks is any homeopathic remedy derived from any substance however lethal ...over 12c ... not available . There is no molecule of the original substance in the remedy and therefore no reason to put it on Rx . Or are we fogetting that homeopathy is an ENERGY therapy .

Quote:

Originally Posted by passkey Agree ....Clarke , in his dictionary of the Materia Med confirms that both Tox and Rad mey be regarded as the same , which does not apply to Rhus Arom , Rhus Glabra or Rhus Divers.

Of course! Those are different species-- most of them trees.

Quote:

Originally Posted by passkey Why one asks is any homeopathic remedy derived from any substance however lethal ...over 12c ... not available . There is no molecule of the original substance in the remedy and therefore no reason to put it on Rx . Or are we fogetting that homeopathy is an ENERGY therapy .

Well... there are two reasons it is not available.
The first is the complete stupidity of the US Government (and others) who confuse a NAME with a THING. Cannabis 30c is NOT the same as crude leaf!

The second is the attempt of SOME pharmacies to abide by the letter of the law. For a remedy to be legally sold Over the Counter with no Prescription it must be an "official" drug (i.e., be listed in the HPUS) and be sold in a potency that is available for "self-limiting conditions."

Crataegus is NOT available OTC since ALL of its indications have to do with heart conditions-- and those are to be seen by physicians.

But remedies like the rare waters-- Carlbad, Weisbaden, etc.-- are NOT in the HPUS because there is no way to reproduce them from scratch. Since they are NOT in the book, they are NOT "official" and legally need an rx to get them. I doubt if a pharmacy sold you a 200 Carlsbad without a rx that the FDA would swoop down and close them. But some like to obey the letter of the law.

JW

must agree on the universal supidity of Govts !