dear malikhahomeopathy can improve the situationif it worked with other patients...hope it will works for youit's not easy phenomena , and slightly with patience will work.look for good modest homeopath .don't go for the promises but for the serious attitude.good luck




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> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:23:20 +0100
> Subject: Re: [H] PKD Polycystic Kidney Disease
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> I agree, I don't want to be my own guinea pig or anyone elses for that
> matter. I also don't want to go through what my mother has gone through.
> She is 65 and had a kidney transplant on 2001 (thankfully) after many a
> horrible hospital experience with kidney problems.But now has stage 4
> cancer most likely as a result of the meds she had to take for her new
> kidney. She a fighter though and I have faith she will make it through
> this big bump in the road.
>
> In your experience with pkd have you found anything that has been
> useful in homeopathic medicine?
>
> There are not too many homeopaths in my area, but I will have to choose
> one so I will have a more directed approach to this whole thing. I'm
> still in the research phase.
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My own experience has been varied and really, given the nature of this disease, it is very difficult to assess progress over the short term. As PKD typically progresses slowly over a number of years, and might also from time to time plateau without any intervention at all, I find it hard to judge. My own journey continues and maybe in 10 years time I'll have my own answer regarding homeopathy and PKD. Maybe sooner IF:

- I see a sudden deterioration of kidney function and/or overall health in spite of my treatment.

OR

- I see an unexpected and (from the allopathic viewpoint) inexplicable improvement in my more obvious, measurable, symptoms (eg blood pressure, size of cysts as seen on ultrasound, even energy levels).

However, it might be more likely that my tests show some stability over a number of years, such that I become increasingly confident about this treatment. I personally am very hopeful of this, but would not wish to mislead others. Patience has already been mentioned and, with a disease like this, my feeling is that it becomes extreme patience!

In the meantime it seems to me that PKD is not that uncommon (affecting at least 1 in 800 people) and there must be those out there who embarked on this journey long before me. In which case I'd love to hear from them. Any homeopathic PKD families out there?

Also, there must, with an even greater probability, be homeopaths out there who have already treated PKD. Where are the case histories?

I have two clients with this disease, one has been cyst free for 6 years now and the other for 8 months so far.* I used a purely classical approach combined with miasmic nosodes as intercurrents.* Both clients responded almost immediatly to treatment and by the 6 month xray were clear.*
I would be curious to hear other homoeopathic approaches and to have a full discussion on the topic if others are interested.
thanks merrilee

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Subject: Re: [H] PKD Polycystic Kidney Disease
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I agree, I don't want to be my own guinea pig or anyone elses for that
matter. I also don't want to go through what my mother has gone through.
She is 65 and had a kidney transplant on 2001 (thankfully) after many a
horrible hospital experience with kidney problems.But now has stage 4
cancer most likely as a result of the meds she had to take for her new
kidney. She a fighter though and I have faith she will make it through
this big bump in the road.

In your experience with pkd have you found anything that has been
useful in homeopathic medicine?

There are not too many homeopaths in my area, but I will have to choose
one so I will have a more directed approach to this whole thing. I'm
still in the research phase.


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Merrilee,

That's very exciting news. Where are you located, or do you every treat patients over the phone? I would be very interested in hearing about you approach as a possible treatment plan.

-Malikha

Apis is not recommended for kidney cyst, but for ovarian cysts. However, on book has recommended Colchicum for this condition. I treated apatient with this drug after sometime he dropped out, though the scan and radiological image showed a reduced cystic condition.

It seems that there are different approaches to this and it is hard, as a patient, to gauge which is most likely to be successful in their own case (some suggest classical, others specific remedies & this is confusing to patients).

Also, it would be interesting to have more details of any cured cases -

At what stage of PKD did the patients present?
What was the kidney function as measured by creatinine clearance, diameter of largest cysts on before and after scans with dates?
How was the problem of high blood pressure (commonly associated with this disease) resolved and how long did this take?
What about any other extra-renal effects (mitral valve prolapse, liver cysts etc)
Are there any cured PKD patients out there who are also prepared to talk to us about their experiences?

My problem is that we often see "cured cases" which suggest a limited number of remedies, or even just one, will suffice. My personal experience has been rather different, straddling years not months. Also, in spite of considerable contact with PKD patients via on-line support groups and charity work for close to a decade, I've yet to speak one-to-one with another PKDer who is trying this approach. It is therefore very hard as a patient to get concrete information instead of following guesswork and intuition.

Hi My husband is suffering from Polycystic kidney disease(PKD). It was discovered when my husbands father had sudden kidney failure at the age of 68 and the doc told us that his father had been suffering from PKD.The doc asked my husband and his siter to get tested and that is when we found that my husband also has PKD. There are multiple cysts in both kidneys and the kidney's are starting to get enlarged now. All kidney functions are normal there are no cysts in liver or elsewhere. He has no pain anywhere. But we are now concerned as the cyst are increasing in n umber my husband is 39 years old , heavy build overweight. I read on this website that Arsenicum Album is helpful is getting rid of the cysts . How true is that has someone had success in treating their kidney cysts with these medicines? We are taking hoemopathic medications from a experienced homeopath but I wanted to find out if really someone has had success with homeopathy in PKD ?

PKD is caused due to improper renal function. Arsenic is one of the medicine, there are few other medicines like Apis, Solidago, Terebinth, Berberis Vulg, Palladium, Sarsaparilla, etc. But there is no specific medicine for PKD. The symptoms has to be treated as a whole. The rectification of renal function will make the PKD disappear.
Plz give the complete picture of the patient and his complaints to opt for complete cure.

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I'm not sure that my points were fully understood.

As far as I'm aware, PKD is not caused by "improper renal function", although that may well be one of the more usual manifestations of it. Similarly, I do not see how the other manifestations of PKD (such as cardiovascular problems, liver cysts, or mitral valve prolapse) will necessarily disappear once renal function is restored, unless the systemic problem has been resolved (which means tackling the genetic ground on which this disease grows or maybe, as you say, treating the system as a whole).

What would be useful is advice on the type of homeopathic treatment to choose, not remedy names - i.e. which approach has produced demonstrable results for PKD patients, were these results measurable and sustainable and are there any PKD families out there who have experience of this? If so it would be good to hear from them.

Also, for the benefit of patients, I wonder if there is such a thing as a "Which?" guide to homeopathy (best choices for those affected by chronic conditions, including genetic diseases, how to tell whether your homeopath really is "classical", what this means anyway how not to waste time on "pseudo-homeopaths" etc etc).

So, not really fishing for remedies for myself, but some general guidance for patients would be really helpful on these boards.

Of course PKD is orginated due to Genetic defect. But it is seen all the family members do not suffer with the symptoms of PKD, the symptoms are very vague. More over symptoms generated are of renal dysfunction. It is confirmed by USG or so. PKD has progressive nature and its progress differs in different family as well as different members of same family. Usually seen PKD is aggravated by uncontrolled UTI, HTN, and other renal dysfunctions, like recurrent episodes of hematuria. It is seen familial history of PKD gives reference to physician to take preventive measures for other members.

Now the only way to prevent the disease is the theory of "prevention is better than cure". If we do not have any complains of vague symptoms like ACUTE EPISODES OF LOIN PAIN, HEMATURIA, UTI, HTN, URAEMIA, etc, PKD is not diagnosed even for the first patient of the family.

like said if the systemic measures are taken PKD can be prevented. Systemic treatment means to treat the system (here the system is renal system) not to tackle the genetic pattern. That means Hypertension, UTI, Uraemia etc are to be prevented. Reanl system has backward pressure which hampers others system when RF is in dysfunction.

Of course if the patient has a familial history of genetic defect it is difficult to get rid off for the patient. You can only help him to prevent the disease to show up.

In last the name of medicines I gave is just few and its clearly said we can treat the symptoms as a whole and there is no pathy has specific remedy for PKD. We can reduce the complications, symptoms and ease the discomfort. In homeopathy this has to taken as miasmatic treatment first that is for SYCOTIC.

This board is for giving correct and helpful advise to the patients as well as others.

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Experience A Good Health

Dr Harkirat Singh Wilkhoo
Manager-Lifetime Wellness Rx Interantional (Jamshedpur Unit)
An Apollo Hospitals Gr Company, Hyderabad